sonoma cheats!!!! - Page 3

Originally Posted by ccbrowning

If that is true, why does intel mention 533FSB on both Sonoma and Dothan CPUs (of certain frequencies, anyway)? You can't lie quite so blatantly...

Originally Posted by intel

Mobile Intel® 915PM Express Chipset Features & Benefits

Features Benefits
533 MHz Front Side Bus Up to 33% increase in Front Side Bus bandwidth over the previous generation.
Support for dual channel DDR2 400/533 MHz memory technology Up to 60% improvement in peak memory bandwidth and average power savings over DDR memory.
Discrete Graphics Supports a high speed PCI Express* graphics interface for the most demanding gaming and workstation applications.
Intel® Stable Image Technology Supports a unified graphics driver. Enables hardware changes without impact to IT software image stability.
Serial ATA Provides up to 150 MB/sec transfer rate for disk traffic.
Direct Media Interface (DMI) With up to 2 GB/sec concurrent bandwidth, DMI provides up to 4x faster I/O bandwidth compared to previous Intel proprietary Hub link I/O interface.
Integrated high speed USB 2.0 Support for 8 USB 2.0 peripherals for maximum 40x faster data transfer and backward compatible to support USB 1.1 devices.
Intel® High Definition Audio New audio specification enables increased bandwidth for high quality audio and support for Dolby* Technologies. Also enables power savings during audio activity.
PCI Express* Bus Architecture Enables the next generation of discrete graphics and I/O. Delivers up to a 4 times increase in discrete graphics bandwidth and 2 times the I/O bandwidth. Also supports the latest industry peripherals like ExpressCard*. Low pin count offers maximum bandwidth per pin.

Originally Posted by ccbrowning

If that is true, why does intel mention 533FSB on both Sonoma and Dothan CPUs (of certain frequencies, anyway)? You can't lie quite so blatantly...

Originally Posted by cis.yale.edu

Example: There are two versions of the Intel 2.4 GHz Pentium 4. One get a clock speed from the mainboard of 100 MHz, but since it transfers data 4 times per clock tick its "Font Side Bus" (FSB) to memory and I/O is said to be four times the clock or 400 MHz. Internally the CPU has a "multiplier" of 24, meaning the external clock is divided into 24 periods to produce the 2.4 GHz value. A slightly more modern version of P4 gets a 133 MHz clock, has a 533 MHz Front Side Bus and has a multiplier of 18. The equivalent AMD Athlon XP 2400+ gets a clock of 133 MHz, has a Front Side Bus twice that at 266 MHz, and an internal multiplier of 15. That gives it an internal speed of 2.0 GHz, but since it executes more instructions per internal clock tick it is rated to be equivalent to Intel's 2.4 GHz

Chip Type Actual Clock Bits/Clock FSB Multiplier Speed
Pentium 4 2.4 100 MHz 4 400 MHz 24 2.4 GHz
Pentium 4 2.4A 133 MHz 4 533 MHz 18 2.4 GHz
Athlon XP 2400 133 MHz 2 266 MHz 15 2.0 GHz

Originally Posted by cis.yale.edu

• CPU socket clock
  • The mainboard generates a clock signal that paces the transfer of data to and from the CPU. Data from the CPU may be going to memory, to the AGP video card, or to an I/O device. The mainboard may sense the CPU chip and set the clock based on the manufacturer's recommendation, or it may provide a BIOS setup panel that lets the user adjust the clock value. The standard values tend to be 100, 133, 166, or 200 MHz.
• Front Side Bus (FSB)
  • The CPU transfers data to the "Northbridge" chip on the mainboard. From there it can go to memory, the video card, or the I/O bus. An Intel CPU transfers data 4 times for every cycle of the CPU socket clock. So while the actual clock speed may be 200 MHz, an Intel CPU chip is typically described as having an 800 MHz Front Side Bus. AMD is more complicated. The old 32 bit Athlon processors transferred data only twice per clock cycle. With a CPU clock of 166 MHz, the FSB is 333 MHz. However, the new Athlon 64 CPU chip has its own integrated memory controller and a high speed HyperTransport integrated I/O bus. FSB numbers would be meaningless. There is no Northbridge chip between the CPU and other devices. The CPU can use its direct connection to memory while at the same time performing high speed I/O to video or other devices.
• Multiplier
  • The CPU generates an internal clock that runs faster than the mainboard clock. If the mainboard clock is 100 MHz and the CPU "multiplier" is 24, then the internal clock cycles 24 times for every tick of the mainboard clock, producing a CPU speed of 2.4 GHz. The same 2.4 GHz can also be produced by applying a multiplier of 18 to a mainboard clock running at 133 MHz. The multiplier is manufactured into the CPU chip and cannot be changed.
• Memory
  • Modern mainboards generate a separate clock to the memory. As it happens, the current memory clock rates are also 100, 133, 166, and 200 MHz. Some motherboards generate this clock as a completely independent number, while others express it as a ratio to the CPU bus clock. DDR (double data rate) memory transfers data twice per cycle (on the tick and again on the tock) and is therefore often quoted as having a speed that is twice the actual clock speed (200, 266, 333, or 400 MHz).
• PCI Bus
  • The PCI standard calls for a 33 MHz clock speed. Some systems generate this independently, but most systems simply divide the 100 MHz CPU bus clock by three or the 133 MHz clock by 4. This is fine as long as you stick to the standard values. If you use the BIOS to nudge the CPU up slightly to a non-standard value like 110 MHz, then the PCI bus will also be running fast. At some point, one of the adapter cards will be far enough out of spec that it will become unreliable.

Originally Posted by ccbrowning

? I know all that already. He says he has the 1.73GHz Dothan, which according to Intel's spec page is supposed to be 533 fsb. It can obviously run at a slower one if the board didn't support the 533. I was referring to the OP who implied that the Sonoma platform doesn't really run at 533 at all.

Oddly enough, someone did CPUZ on a Travelmate 8104 (http://notebookforums.com/showthread...374#post821374), and it didn't give them most of the info.

Originally Posted by HardBall

I agree, Sonoma "should" run at 533MHz, but at the moment, we can't find any utility that will confirm that's the case on qwerty007's laptop. I guess we need to question what really is the chipset, 915PM or something else.

Originally Posted by lastdon

are these chips dothan? in a sonoma platform?

cause i am sure cpu-z isn't reporting them correctly.. cause it still shows dothan even on my 8104..................... but i thought dothan was the older p4-m and now the new ones are out no?

Originally Posted by lastdon

well smilepak has the asus and said it's reading the same thing?

Originally Posted by Black-wolf

Ok I have a 7700 with the 915 chipset and a prescott p4, my clocks are 266.7 ratio 3:4 (Chipset id 915p/915g) mine is running 800bus 200 fsb on cpu