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post #381 of 754
5/13/05 at 10:21pm
no reason for it not to work
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post #382 of 754
5/13/05 at 10:21pm
only if it's a Celeron that's using 400Mhz FSB. It looks like the 6000M's that Dell has on their site right now are using this speed. It's also a 915 chipset so I think you could seriously have luck with this, unless the Celerons are more than just crippled P-M's and are missing 533 support.

With 1MB L2 cache they are going to be very similar to Banias in performance, probably a bit better due to other tweaks to the core. It will be a beast at 2.0GHz.
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post #383 of 754
5/13/05 at 10:34pm
Well thought i'd report back, put the 1.6 chip in my 9300 and the 1.73 in the 700m.. both work great. 2.13 Ghz on the 9300 and 1.3Ghz on the 700m. The 9300 at 2.13ghz doesn't really even get more hot then before, maybe because I ripped off the thermal pad and put some regular paste on there.
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post #384 of 754
5/13/05 at 11:20pm

celery

Thanks for the replies,

The celeron has the "enhanced speed step technology" disabled.

what does this or will this impact?

I will certainly overclock and post results.

It could be a decent 'dirt cheap' performer
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post #385 of 754
5/13/05 at 11:21pm
i don't think the celeron would be able to be pin modded because i think this mod is specifically for Dothans only
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post #386 of 754
5/13/05 at 11:28pm
i thought these new 1m celeries were Dothans
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post #387 of 754
5/13/05 at 11:48pm
Yes the 90nm celery is a dothan, just has 1meg L2
and "enhanced speed step" disabled
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post #388 of 754
5/13/05 at 11:58pm
Without speedstep it will be a bad battery hog. That's the only downside to the Celeron-M's. Well, other than the cache size being halved. A Banias-based Celeron-M will have 512K cache while a Dothan-based will have 1MB.

Otherwise they are a Pentium-M.
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post #389 of 754
5/14/05 at 12:03am
You guys do realize this is voiding your warranties and that it will decrease the life of the CPU, right?

Just asking because it seems like a lot of you are overclocking newbies
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post #390 of 754
5/14/05 at 12:21am
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Originally Posted by TriX
You guys do realize this is voiding your warranties and that it will decrease the life of the CPU, right?

Just asking because it seems like a lot of you are overclocking newbies
Well if you are overclocking chances are you will be buying a new computer because it's obsolete before your CPU dies from the strain of overclocking (unless you burn it out). And as for the warranty....well just swap the back if you have to send it in for service.
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post #391 of 754
5/14/05 at 12:42am
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Originally Posted by REAVER
Well if you are overclocking chances are you will be buying a new computer before your CPU dies from the strain of overclocking (unless you burn it out). And as for the warranty....well just swap the back if you have to send it in for service.

I have overclocked (really called overbused) every system I have ever had (7) and never has one failed my first one a P2 300 @ 450 still running like a champ.
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post #392 of 754
5/14/05 at 2:04am
Overclocking will certainly reduce the life. But, do you really care that your CPU won't last 20 years now? I don't think so. I don't miss my 486 DX/2 66MHz that I had at 80MHz all those years ago. But I did at the time really enjoy the very noticeable speed boost.
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post #393 of 754
5/14/05 at 9:49am

celery

well Im not going to even use the celeron.
the speed step inability has swayed me over to buy a 1.6 dothan.
got a new one on ebay for $165.
I wish I would have realized it before I bought the Laptop.
I will try and change the 1.6 to 533.
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post #394 of 754
5/14/05 at 9:59am
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Originally Posted by TriX
You guys do realize this is voiding your warranties and that it will decrease the life of the CPU, right?

Just asking because it seems like a lot of you are overclocking newbies

I have been overclocking since I had to replace the crystal in my 386 and I have never killed a CPU. I am sure we are voiding out warranties, but going from 1.6 to 2.13 for $145 is well worth it. If I thought there was anything besides an absolutely miniscule(<.05%) of something happening, I wouldn't do it. It is safe and I have never seen a CPU life shortened by doing it.
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post #395 of 754
5/14/05 at 10:17am
Ive been using this p4 2.6, running at 3.4 for over 2 years, not so much as a hiccup.
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post #396 of 754
5/14/05 at 6:11pm
I've never heard of anyone's overclocked chip burning up after running stable for a while. Only improper cooling (which burns up the chip immediately). The lifespan of the semiconductors, even when overclocked, should last a good ten or so years.

My dothan 755 should arrive in a couple days, along with my AS5. Wish me luck
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post #397 of 754
5/14/05 at 7:08pm
is it possible to put thermal compound between the heatpipe and the heatsink for better heat conductivity? For the Zalman heatpipes, i think that is the recommended procedure
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post #398 of 754
5/14/05 at 9:03pm
TriX,

How long have YOU been overclocking dude? I've been doing it since 1994 on every system that I've owned (approx 1 new per year) and many, many others that I have "tweaked", with ZERO CPU deaths in the family.

My crowning glory was running a 166MMX at 250MHz 3.5V core (up from 2.8V default, and beyond the CPUs absolute maximum voltage rating of 3.3V) for two years mainstream. I then put it in a work computer that was only designed for non-MMX CPUs (ie. 3.3V was the lowest core voltage) at 200MHz with a heatsink only (ie. NO fan ) for a full three years without a hiccup. Now that's rugged!

I thought that the 9300 was going to be my first non-overclockable PC I have owned, until I found this thread Given that I have a 2GHz CPU to start with, I will not do any mods until 2.4GHz is easily achievable, which doesn't seem to be the case right now.

Noody
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post #399 of 754
5/15/05 at 12:05am
ANGRYDUDE - Pick up a 1.6 or 1.7 on ebay, pin mod it with some thermal paste, and sell your 2.0 on ebay. It should bring a pretty penny
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post #400 of 754
5/15/05 at 2:27am
I suppose I could rallycobra, but now that I'm entering my overclocking twilight years , it seems like a lot of effort for little performance gain (wrt 2.0GHz I have now), even if there is a dollar return. I'm happy to wait until the 1.8s are cheap and doing it easy before I crack any screws this time. Wow, I got to say cheap, easy, screws and crack all in one sentence without being intentionally bawdy.

Nood Dude
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