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The Ugly, The Bad and The Good - Redphyve's RMA Repair.

post #1 of 20
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Now, before anything else is said, this is not intended to be a bash at Alienware, or serve as a WARNING not to do this or that as some people are fond of posting. This is just the story of my experience of an RMA where my system was returned to the depot for a repair.

And I must again emphasise that I'm not angry or mad, just disappointed. And the reason for my disappointment is simple. Alienware set the level of my expectation. They set the bar. I expect everything they do to be of a superlatively high standard, because that is the standard they set themselves and it's what previous experience has led me to accept as the norm.

Basically, the story begins with the failure of my chipset fan on the Asus motherboard. A few calls and some minor investigative surgery on my part with the help of a very knowledgeable tech in Tech-supp soon revealed that there was no choice but to send the machine back in for a repair.

So I hastily packed it up and it was fetched same day by DHL to be taken to the AW facility in Ireland. And then I remembered....in my rush to get the system out I FORGOT TO BACKUP MY FILES. A call to my friendly tech resulted in notes being placed in my account that on no account would files be deleted or the hard-drive formatted or any reintegration be done to the drive. Also if there was no choice but to lose the data, I would be consulted so that we could see what could be saved.

Now at this point we must be clear on a few things. I was told the following:

1. Replacement of chipset-fan or if not possible, motherboard. Installation of new AlienIce power-inverter.
2. No deleting of ANY files on the My Documents folder.
3. If any deleting was to be done, I would be consulted as to what could be saved and what would have to be lost.

Now before I go on, I must say in AW's defense that they clearly state that before a system is sent back to depot, all necessary backups MUST be made.

I didn't backup because I forgot and I was in a rush to get it fixed. So basically, the fact that my files were lost is my fault....mea culpa.

He called me the next day to advise me that the machine had arrived and he had gone over to personally tell them about my system and the "do not delete" message.

About 7days later, I'm happy to see the DHL truck pull up outside with my system.

After Mr DHL has left I unpack and here follow my notes of my first impression:

Machine dirty and dusty.
AlienIce not repaired.
HDD formatted.
Bare Windows install, not activated, some system drivers not installed.
System SLI not activated.
System prone to freezes and lockups.
Message popping up stating SLI needs to be enabled.
Benchmarks txt-file. Upon examination it's clear the benchmarks were run with SLI not enabled. 3dMark05 score of 4000 some odd proves this.

Enable SLI.
Reboot.
Machinelocks up on Windows Welcome screen consistently.
Booting to Safe Mode sometimes results in return to desktop.
Shutdown.
Open case to find one CardKeeper on floor of case and the other barely screwed into place.
One SATA drive cable looks funny, closer examination shows it is cracked and broken and barely in place.

The other pictures are over-exposed and blurred - yeah, ask me how I did THAT with a pointand-shoot canon digicam!

Anyway...I replace the SATA cable and the power-inverter with one of my own and the machine reboots successfully.

So I decide to call AW tech-supp to find out what the hell happened. My friendly tech is astounded. He checks his notes and find two notes, one he made and one somebody else has made, plus he had told me earlier he had gone over to make sure they followed his instructions. He assured me that an investigation is underway to find out what went wrong and how to ensure it won't happen again. I have no issues with that and agree. And it comes back to something DB and NassauMike and others have said, Alienware need to improve inter-dept communication and get some consistency in their procedures.

So we decide to do a complete reinstall and format of the system, which is where I am now...waiting for HL2 and Counter-strike to finish their updates.

Funnily enough, the whole experience has not soured me on Alienware and the products or after-sales service, strange as it may seem, I would still highly recommend them to anyone who asks.

WTF? I hear some say....DUDE they totally screwed up your sytem and it's the story from hell, why didn't you nuke the tech/Alienware etc etc.

Simple...as pc users you live with the constant threat of dataloss. It happens, we deal with it. It'll happen to anybody sometime in their pc experience. Also, as a ex tech-support guy, I know shit can happen that is outside your control, a missing email, calls not answered, messages not picked up, mail not sent/read/misread/misunderstood...and just plain carelessness on somebody's part can land you as the tech-support guy neck-high in the doo-doo. At that point, screaming at the tech is only going to make you feel good, and how good do you really feel? As a tech, all you can do is try to ensure it doesn't happen again. I know and trust that the 2 technicians that helped me did theoir best to ensure my instructions were followed and I know I'll get an email telling me what went wrong. I don't want to get anybody fired now, but I do want to know what the hell happened. Like i said in the beginning and I must stress this point...Alienware set the level of my expectation. They set the bar. I expect everything they do to be of a superlatively high standard, because that is the standard they set themselves and it's what previous experience has led me to accept as the norm. that's why I'm disappointed.


Ah well, shit happens................let's do some benching and get my mind off this.
post #2 of 20
As long as it is all fixed and running perfectly!
post #3 of 20
Wow, your a much more patient man than I am but I'm glad you've gotten things fixed. Hope to see you in CS
post #4 of 20
I forgot all about your AlienIce. that part sucks really bad because I remember you actually decided to wait to fix that and here was the opportunity to get that part fixed. well, your a good guy red. hope you shoot a message off to your AW rep. and hurry up wit that CS:S install. (lol) i havent been there in a while. im gonna get creamed when i get time to go.
post #5 of 20
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CS:S installed and ready to go, and guess what? After I installed everything it seems I got a bit of an increase in speed...swings and roundabouts I suppose.
post #6 of 20
redphyve, glad to hear you're back up and running. your experience is a perfect example of karmic retribution, you could have come on here and b*tched and whinned about this. up in space theres an alien mothership hovering above your present location, beaming down it's protective light and encouraging your aurora to perform slightly faster.
post #7 of 20
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Originally Posted by redphyve
CS:S installed and ready to go, and guess what? After I installed everything it seems I got a bit of an increase in speed...swings and roundabouts I suppose.
RedPhyve,
Although I don't own a AW, I think I can relate. (My son does... )

A quick, true story. I ride motorcycles and so I notice bikes. I live in Colorado. Upon arriving at a local pub four weeks ago to meet some buds, I noticed a older Harley FLX softtail parked up by the entrance on the sidewalk. Now it's about 30 deg F. out. I'm thinking WTF, this guy is insane for riding at these temps. The next thing I notice is, I shit you not, a newspaper under the Harley with a tablespoon of recently deposited motor oil coming from the bike. I walk in and see one of my friends waiting for me, he nods at the bike through the window and I just have time to say something like "Can you believe that?" before the owner of the bike walks up and says to me "Saw you looking at my bike, aint it a beauty." I looked back and realized that yea, it was one hell of a beautiful old Harley. Once hooked, we'll work through anything because these machines really are beautiful pieces of equipment that will be around awhile, even when they are leaking a little oil.
post #8 of 20
Red - your patience is admirable, and hope all continues to go well for you.

AcesOverEights - hmmmnnn, it's about 1:30am Sat morning in Sydney now. That makes it about 9:30am Friday morning in Colorado. You surely aren't posting this from Brandon's new computer while he's at school, are you????
post #9 of 20
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LOL.............

I'd more likely compare my baby to a Jaguar E-type 3.8 Series 2, almost 40yrs old and still able to kick some serious ass!
post #10 of 20
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Originally Posted by shazza
Red - your patience is admirable, and hope all continues to go well for you.

AcesOverEights - hmmmnnn, it's about 1:30am Sat morning in Sydney now. That makes it about 9:30am Friday morning in Colorado. You surely aren't posting this from Brandon's new computer while he's at school, are you????
Shazza

I was wondering the same thing myself!
post #11 of 20
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Originally Posted by redphyve
Shazza

I was wondering the same thing myself!

Hey, hey, hey now... let's be fair about this. I gave him the keys to the truck this morning, he gave me the keys to the chassis. (Jokes on him though cause the truck is both insured and slow whilst this device... )
post #12 of 20
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Originally Posted by shazza
AcesOverEights - hmmmnnn, it's about 1:30am Sat morning in Sydney now. That makes it about 9:30am Friday morning in Colorado. You surely aren't posting this from Brandon's new computer while he's at school, are you????
Lmao...I'd take advantage while I could.
post #13 of 20
lol
post #14 of 20
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It's midnight, or just past - finally finished installing everything.

Benched, tweaked and peaked the 6800GT gpu's to their highest stable config, And this is it.

One point more on either one, like 401 and 1.01, and I get artifacts and 3dMark05 crashing to desktop.

Funny though, I can get the closck speed of the core up by 30 from the stock 370, yet I cannot do dick with the memory.

Ah well, without getting more fans and coolers and more esoteric cooling solutions, I think that's about all she wrote.
post #15 of 20
Looks like your ready to be one agile, low ping bullet stopper again, Red! By the way I tried to find the CS:S game server that you and Yang88she play on. No luck. I didn't see any NSP or alienware out there in the discovery. Am I missing something?
post #16 of 20
Red - you are a class act - lots of people could take lessons from you.
post #17 of 20
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Originally Posted by AcesOverEights
Looks like your ready to be one agile, low ping bullet stopper again, Red! By the way I tried to find the CS:S game server that you and Yang88she play on. No luck. I didn't see any NSP or alienware out there in the discovery. Am I missing something?
Yes you are....lolol

The IP address is as follows:

72.36.157.37:27015

or you can find the server in your in-game browser by searching for:

Notebookforums.com CS:Source Shed

See you soon.
post #18 of 20
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Originally Posted by spaced
Red - you are a class act - lots of people could take lessons from you.

Thanks

Do you mind if I quote you too my wife? Apparently there's an issue about some nocturnal gaseous emissions from my end of the bed.....personally I have no idea what she's on about....lol
post #19 of 20
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Originally Posted by redphyve
Thanks

Do you mind if I quote you too my wife? Apparently there's an issue about some nocturnal gaseous emissions from my end of the bed.....personally I have no idea what she's on about....lol
Tell her I said "class act" not "gas act" - if all else fails, blame the dog!
post #20 of 20
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Uh, blaming the dog won't work, she runs out whining, which is a dead give-away for my wife!
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