SURPISE OF THE YEAR!!!! --Dual Core A64 launch TOMORROW

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=22676

It did say that most it's only available for OEMs at this point, and retail chips won't be availble until June.

Boys and Girls, if we get really lucky, we will se DUAL CORE DTRs on the market by the end of this month.

No, they will be S939, as far as we know.

HP is already shipping S939 notebooks.

But you never know, AMD might pull another rabbit out of the hat, and we will find out for sure 24 hours from now.

AMD is also recognized as being the first to launch DC CPUs by many in the business community.

See this article:

http://www.computerweekly.com/articl...earch=&nPage=1

Oh, Karma,

also Ramificatio just reported that A64 4000+ S939 has begun appearing in notebooks as well:
http://notebookforums.com/showthread.php?t=77361

Sorry, I just meant that there will be an existing platform for the new DC A64s on notebooks.

OEM launch is not ideal, but is still much better than the Intel paper launches, places like Newegg, Monarch, or Zipzoomfly do sell OEM CPUs, although without a HSF attached. SO there will be SOME availability soon to the general public, even if the launch is only OEM.

Show us any piece of hard evidence that one company (aside from those with engineering samples), or one individual in this country that has received P EE 840 based system at this moment. Article after article pointed out that this is a pure paper launch, with ZERO immediate availability, even on the OEM front. Just because Dell puts a webpage up to configure the new XPS, doesn't mean that they will ship at this moment.

Intel has been doing this kind of CR*P for years, that's one of the reasons why people who really know about computers and the market are really leery of Intel and all of its "promises".

Well, that simply isn't good enough to believer what "INTEL SAYS", we have learned that long time ago, and many times over. Propagating lies and misinformations is the specialty of Intel PR, which obviously moved the launch forward by over a month, after the leaking of the Opteron launch date. I don't believe for a minute that any appreciable quantity of P EE 840 has been shipped or even in the pipeline this date.

There is a reason why so many in the Enthusiast community dislike intel, and despise their practices; the reason IS their practices, of paper launches, misinformation about their products, clever marketing schemes to snooker consumers, offering incentives for OEMs to exclude competitors, offering money to be put at the head table at chip conventions, disregarding EPA regulations in polluting Rio Grande.... ...

For example, a friend from Spain a few weeks ago showed me an Intel flyer that warns consumers not to buy "cloned" CPUs from competitors (obviously meaning AMD), which is the biggest load of **** I have ever heard. And CompUSA employee telling me that he learned from a seminar that Intel CPUs are more "reliable" (Let's make a wild guess who paid for that). Yeah, sure, a Prescott that outputs 120W under TDP is really "reliable" piece of work. Intel basically typifies what's wrong with the corporate world today, and the cancerous growth in the American and World Enterprise spirit.

I'm not saying that AMD, VIA, SUN, IBM never does any of these, but they certainly do not do it to nearly the same extent that Intel masters these deceits and trickeries. So I guess you can understand my scepticism when Intel tries to suddenly move up the launch by 40 days, while telling us that they have "begun shipping" the chips.