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post #1 of 51
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The Inquirer mentions a new company called: L Technologies.

The article is here: http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=11693

They give a link to their laptops: http://www.go-l.com/laptops/index.htm

And sure enough, there are Sagers on their page. The 8890 is there in the middle.

The article writer states that he would love to get his hands on one, but doubts he might. Though he certainly would love some feedback from someone. Now I won't be getting mine until Wed. so if you like, send him your 8890 expereinces.

-Lox
post #2 of 51
Hey Lox - totally unrelated - but did you get your tracking number? It should be in your inbox.

Sincerely,
Laura @ PC Torque
800-346-6986
http://www.pctorque.com
http://www.talknotebooks.com
post #3 of 51
"Like no other", my ass.
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Man I posted before I read all the goods on this 8890. Hold ontight for a crazy ride:

From here: http://www.go-l.com/laptops/producer...ture/index.htm

They claim that the motherboard is CSA enabled. That hasn't been stated up to now, as far as I know. We all know its a 865 chipset.

They provide 433 mhz speed DDR ram(CL 2-2-7-2), while PCTorue has 400DDR.

Now they have something called CacheFlow, but I think its just software. Loads active files into RAM. Then there is something quite interesting: PuRam. "Does is smell really bad?" Anyway its
basically a really big RAMDrive that seems to retain its information after power has been lost, or maybe it stays alive on battery life when the machine is powered off. Regardless, it sounds cool, but I have to look into it more.

I read this about their XP installation, personally I think its crap:
"That is because we have additionally introduced thousands of enhancements and performing improving adjustments, to uniquely and exclusively match the new Producer with Microsoft® Windows XP Professional.

Performance improvements include refinements in the GUI, general system responsiveness, sub-layer hard disk data sub-layer buffering, file access enhancements, fine-tuned drivers and resources, added productivity tools, and upgraded workflow management utilities and applications.

In all, over 2800 specific tweaks are applied for the new Producer Laptop, taking the Windows experience to new heights making the real-world performance and usability shine at spectacular new levels, for both consumer and professional applications."

From here: http://www.go-l.com/laptops/producer/specs/index.htm

You can buy a 8890 with the new Intel P4 Extreme Edition processor. hehe, amazing. I doubt it will be available anytime soon.

CacheFlow is included in almost all the machines, makes me think that its more software than hardware.

They all have this PuRAM. Where is installed? is it a Type 2 PCMCIA or a floppy something or another?

The notes at the bottom state:
* CacheFlow™ Technology requires a minimum 1GB available RAM and a HyperThreading Processor.
** Later upgrade to CacheFlow™ Technology after purchase, requires the re-installation of the Operating System.
**** PuRam™ Drives Technology work in conjunction with CacheFlow™ Technology

So its all software. The OS must be preconfigured and if you want to whipe your hd then you'll likely loose the feature. Overall, I think its lame. I'd really like to see if it makes such an amazing difference. Your OS in RAM emulated by s/w seems extremely risky. If you were to loose power or something bad were to happen, which isn't too surprising with windows, you could loose a lot. They certainly sugar-coat it without giving too much detail.

From: http://www.go-l.com/laptops/producer/features/index.htm

The display is another thing:
"It starts with an ultra-high contrast 16" 1280x1024 pixels display with unmatched color reproduction, clarity, contrast accuracy, and unbelievable fast video response using 's Ultra-Speed™ Display Technology. Furthermore, derived from our engineers' expertise in Professional LCD Video Projection and photographic optical filtering techniques, the screens are exclusively coated with a super-thin UV-668 filter, that adds an extra 15% in enhanced contrast ratio."

Any truth to this 8890 as having a special filter? Can current owners also state that they have the same filter?
post #5 of 51
Thread Starter 
Unrelated, yes Laura, I did get it, thanks.

-Lox
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Wait, how did they get their hands onto the P4 Extreme Edition?! What about the 6-channel sound? Is that sound with the PCMCIA card they include?

Do you guys think thats BS or true?
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Re: The Inquirer brings up a Sager re-brand

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Originally posted by v8esprit
The Inquirer mentions a new company called: L Technologies.

The article is here: http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=11693

They give a link to their laptops: http://www.go-l.com/laptops/index.htm

And sure enough, there are Sagers on their page. The 8890 is there in the middle.

The article writer states that he would love to get his hands on one, but doubts he might. Though he certainly would love some feedback from someone. Now I won't be getting mine until Wed. so if you like, send him your 8890 expereinces.

-Lox
omg check out the extreme version

http://www.go-l.com/store/hardware/producer.htm

Ok I have to go sell my grannie for this lappy....ebay here I come


Gan if you see this I is only joking <cough..cough>
post #8 of 51
Very very interesting.

These guys appear not to be rebranding Sagers, but to be an alternate OEM getting their computers directly from Clevo.

I like their site. Kinda Apple-eske.

Things I noticed:

QXGA screens on their "5680"
P4 Extreme Edition offered on their "5680"
PuRam Technology??? -- I must do some research.
DDR 433
Advertised as P5 compatable.

Their price doesn't compete with Sager on an equally configed machine though.
post #9 of 51
I think this is one of those places that make a nice site and rip people off... Read the specs on the 8890s. Looks like they charge money to f*ing enable RAID. Complete garbage. Worse than Eurocom (well, at least these guys have a nice site).
post #10 of 51
Oh my goodness!!!!

Did you look at their monitors section.

I've never seen a 4 wide LCD for sale at a consumer website like that.
post #11 of 51
$6700 for a laptop!!

OMG! I am crazy but
post #12 of 51
I did notice something at their order page though.. They list the 3.2 with 2MB cache... Is that 1 even out yet??????? i wanna 2mb cache processor.. and they also list it as being upgradable to Pentium 5/Prescott.... Sniff sniff.. Hmm Do i smell something fishy? and then they list puram technology and I have no idea what that is except that it looks like some kind of storage thing of some kind.. their specs on it are a little vague to say the least... and actually they arent Sagers but clevos.. and they are listing the wireless as mini-pci .. And Ouch , The top 1 starts at $6699 US with a configuration that we could get for around $3000 without the 2mb l3 cache 3.2 chip and the extra gig of ram.. although from prices the extra 3000 could be the ram alone..... 1GB SODIMMS arent cheap....
Their spec page
post #13 of 51
Humm, they say they are going to have an OLED Notebook by Q3 2004. We shall wait and see.
post #14 of 51
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Originally posted by unpilot
$6700 for a laptop!!

OMG! I am crazy but
Thats exactly what I mean.
post #15 of 51
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Originally posted by Nathan Bales
Humm, they say they are going to have an OLED Notebook by Q3 2004. We shall wait and see.
By q3 2004? like anybody knows what will be out by then really.. and anybody will remember if they dont then




And by their description of their cacheflow technology it sounds like that is just enabling hyperthreading LOL
post #16 of 51
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Originally posted by infinity306
And by their description of their cacheflow technology it sounds like that is just enabling hyperthreading LOL
Bahahahahaha
post #17 of 51
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Originally posted by mmarkin
Wait, how did they get their hands onto the P4 Extreme Edition?! What about the 6-channel sound? Is that sound with the PCMCIA card they include?

Do you guys think thats BS or true?


I thought the 8890 had 6 channel sound support if you hook it up to speakers now... i think the p4 extreme edition will probaly be released this week sometime. ive seen that Athlon 64 is supposed to be available for ordering at Monarchcomputer tommorow, you can email them and preorder it now.. SO extreme edition could be Intels counter..
post #18 of 51
This brings up an interesting point. I read that pentium 4 extreme edition systems should be available in 2 weeks... is sager going to offer the extreme edition too? I'm thinking this could be a great chip for speed with 2mb of l3 cache, would be better if it had 1mb of l2 cache like the pentium M has or even 2mb of L2 cache but L3 should still give a speed jump im thinking...
post #19 of 51
Now Now, if you take the time to really scan their website, the company does have some real legs. The namesake, Miguel Lieberman, is a major producer, did the Coke Centennial ad, the one-time ad released right at midnight, Dec 31, 1999. The experience, primarily produced on his MacIntosh with much misery, led him to search for and market a mongo laptop, ie - the Clevos which are the base for Sager, etal.

The PuRAM (I can't find anything on it in substantial searches) appears to be a Flash Memory solution in the GigaByte range (for which I also can't find anything in quantities above 1 Gig). As with Compact Flash, or Secure Digital or any of the other micro-storage solutions, this would be non-volatile storage (doesn't require power) that has very high access speeds. I know there are 512 MB SD chips on the market, and 1 Gig in test and they are talking about 4 GB but those are at least a half year away. Theoretically, you could stuff 60 or so SD chips into the space a 2.5" HDD takes. That would give you 60 GB with current tech, if you had the means to access them all, and up to 240 GB with coming tech.

Overall, the "L" brand seems to be something to watch for the leading edge. Then again, it could just be Alienware for the rich and famous.
post #20 of 51
The Hollywood system looks nice. They beat Sager to the punch upgrading the 17" to FSB 800, HT, 9600pro, etc.

Price is not too bad, between Sager and AW. Sure they have insane systems that are $5k+, but if you customized a Sager with all that crap i'm sure it would come around the same price.

Will be interesting to see how price compares to the new version of Sager's 4760 when it comes out.

Gotta give props to "L" for style points though
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