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post #21 of 51
9/22/03 at 8:08pm
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Originally posted by sp0rk
The Hollywood system looks nice. They beat Sager to the punch upgrading the 17" to FSB 800, HT, 9600pro, etc.

Price is not too bad, between Sager and AW. Sure they have insane systems that are $5k+, but if you customized a Sager with all that crap i'm sure it would come around the same price.

Will be interesting to see how price compares to the new version of Sager's 4760 when it comes out.

Gotta give props to "L" for style points though

Not neccessarily beating sager.. they might have it on their website but still a few weeks from shipping i bet.. since it has been said that it should be out around october by sager..
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post #22 of 51
9/22/03 at 8:29pm
If they are so serious and high-end wannabies, why would they include that mp3 player at all? That has to be the biggest disappointment for anyone concerned with quality.

Novelty=yes, quality=no

-myrkat
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post #23 of 51
9/22/03 at 8:47pm
these laptops are unbelivable, and they have a price to match,

EXTREME Hollywood (4760) added to the x-mas wish list

but for real the technology seems almost to good to be true. maybe it is? in any case its still nice to dream. kudos for who found the site
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post #24 of 51
9/22/03 at 11:17pm
WOW!

Is it to late to cancel my 5680 order... Just kidding.

It just goes to show you that no matter what you order it will be outdated by the time you get it.
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post #25 of 51
9/22/03 at 11:31pm
When you spec one out, there is a little disclaimer by the CPU

Intel Pentium 4 3.2GHz HT Extreme (800MHz)
(available November)

So, you can't quite get the extreme just yet.

But OMFG that Hollywood 17 is incredible

The shipping weight is 7.9 lbs. That means a sub 8 lb ATI 9600, 17 ", 433 MHz DDR, and a 3.2 GHz 2 MB L3.

I'm speechless.
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post #26 of 51
9/22/03 at 11:35pm
haha like i said and the moeny will leave us on the streets watching our dvd's on the Hollywood Extreme
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post #27 of 51
9/23/03 at 12:26am
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Originally posted by Timmy
When you spec one out, there is a little disclaimer by the CPU

Intel Pentium 4 3.2GHz HT Extreme (800MHz)
(available November)

So, you can't quite get the extreme just yet.

But OMFG that Hollywood 17 is incredible

The shipping weight is 7.9 lbs. That means a sub 8 lb ATI 9600, 17 ", 433 MHz DDR, and a 3.2 GHz 2 MB L3.

I'm speechless.

Not quite, Read a little bit farther along and you'll see that that the 7.9 lb is without battery and media bays LOL... Now if you want a laptop without a battery or hard drive/cd thats up to you.. but i dont see what you could do with it LOL
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post #28 of 51
9/23/03 at 12:45am
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Originally posted by v8esprit
The display is another thing:
"It starts with an ultra-high contrast 16" 1280x1024 pixels display with unmatched color reproduction, clarity, contrast accuracy, and unbelievable fast video response using 's Ultra-Speed™ Display Technology. Furthermore, derived from our engineers' expertise in Professional LCD Video Projection and photographic optical filtering techniques, the screens are exclusively coated with a super-thin UV-668 filter, that adds an extra 15% in enhanced contrast ratio."

Any truth to this 8890 as having a special filter? Can current owners also state that they have the same filter?
Yes they are correct in all this and the 8890 has the same screen. Contrast ratios are above 400:1, response is 25msec, brightness 200 cd/m2, and high (not ultra-wide) viewing angles.

If you get a copy (not saying where ) of the specs on the Sharp screen in the 8890 (LQ160E1LW02) it has all this whizz bang technology in it (as any 8890 owner that has looked at their screen will atest to). All the new technology Sharp put into the new screen is one reason they don't have a UXGA available yet .
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post #29 of 51
9/23/03 at 12:45am
Ok, just some things i wanna pop in here.

If you read teh 5680 manual, u see that it says it can indeed take a 15" QXGA. So, assuming a supplier IS found, i could belive it.

OLED displays are already on the market. Mind you, the displays are in digital cameras, but they are real and work. Real-world upscaling is ramping up, and i too expect OLED screens by next year. Quality, Brightness, Response rate are another thing; but we will have em.

As for the P4EE, i imagine it would be doable. If nothing else, custom order from Sager. Also, keep in mind, any 865/875 board can take them (with at most a bios flash), so, we can add them ourselves if we want em. Regardless, the L3 wont hurt, but it wont help as much as L2 would...

As for the PAT, look at the desktop 865s. Most makers have it already enabled, so why not the laptops?
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post #30 of 51
9/23/03 at 1:06am
Having read thru their site, I smell hype, ripoff and come in sucker. We thought AW was bad - these guys make eurocrap look tame.

But again it is all about selling sizzle not sausage. And these guys are really good bullsheet artists.

As to PuRAM, it is nothing more than a sanDisk flash large enough to eat. These have been out in the electronics design mags for a while (read 6 months). Everything else is just sizzle.

For those of you wondering about Prescott upgradeability there was a thread in this forum about it. You will notice the ads have disclaimers all over the place. Intel has said they are "thinking" about a 478 pin compatible Prescott with similar power and timing. So far that looks like happening, so the 5680 and 8890 will be able to handle it (warranty aside).

433 DRAM is all sizzle again. If your FSB is running at 800 MHz the extra 33 is going to do diddly sqat unless you start to OC the P4.

QXGA screens do exist. Again there was a thread I was commenting on the availablity of them. Eurocom had/have a QXGA but after Adam's comments and my own investigation into the QXGA quality I would avoid it until the technology comes of age.

All in all good PR, but I would save myself $US1500 and buy an equivalent Sager from PC Torque. After all they don't have SagerForums do they?

Edit: one more thing for you guys drooling over the P4EE - several benchmarks are showing a DROP in overall performance due to the 2G L3 cache. Do the hard research guys, don't get sucked into the siren's song .
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post #31 of 51
9/23/03 at 1:14am
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Originally posted by aussie
Do the hard research guys, don't get sucked into the siren's song .
After rereading some of the posts from some of the more impressionable amoungst us, I fear I may be too late .
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post #32 of 51
9/23/03 at 1:15am
Thread Starter 
Please guys,

Don't read into this website too much. Sarcastically, those high prices are there to cover for the inventive website creation they did. I've never seen so much sugar coating when trying to describe a notebook. There is no doubt that the 8890 is an amazing machine. Though these guys have layered on so much crap that it makes it seem greater than it really is. The fact is that someone could go over there spend $2k more than you for the same notebook that you could buy at PcTorque. The difference between the two is that PCTorque doesn't necessarily install an OS, and if they do its pretty vanilla. I like that. I don't want AOL ads to connect or stupid spyware on my PC. I don't like some recovery WinXP cd that whipes my hd and restores the AOL crap. They likely do. They "tweak" the OS with what, 2700 different tweaks? That's what you are paying for. The PuRAM and the SmartCache is all software. It probably cuts your ram up. Did you read that the puRAM doesn't work if you dont have a gig? Why would it make a difference if it was a serpeate type of memory? It wouldn't? Its lame, and I feel prone for disaster if something hardware fails or power is lost. Its worth while to monitor this site for new things coming down the pipeline, as it seems they got the info on the 17" 800fsb notebook before PCTorque did. Oh well, PC Torque will no doubt be offering the same thing.

I think if you just sit back PCTorque will have the same products for cheaper prices. Though, Adam could take some pointers on how to really inflate and exaggerate how fantastic Clevo notebooks are from those jokers.

-Lox
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post #33 of 51
9/23/03 at 1:45am
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Originally posted by v8esprit
... it seems they got the info on the 17" 800fsb notebook before PCTorque did...
I don't think PC Torque is into speculation as much as some of these other sites. I'm sure it's hard to NOT speculate and post "what-if's" and such, but since I've known about the company, they typically only deal with facts and deliverable products.

Of course, there is a whole bunch of folkes depending on such advanced announcements, and that's fine. I prefer to deal with the hear and now.

-myrkat
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post #34 of 51
9/23/03 at 1:55am
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Originally posted by myrkat
I don't think PC Torque is into speculation as much as some of these other sites. I'm sure it's hard to NOT speculate and post "what-if's" and such, but since I've known about the company, they typically only deal with facts and deliverable products.

Of course, there is a whole bunch of folkes depending on such advanced announcements, and that's fine. I prefer to deal with the hear and now.

-myrkat
Yeah. Unlike others, i would assume Adam and Laura like to keep their customer base, and thus only annouce what they know (or at least, i assume the statement true.. i would if i were in their shoes).

Just remember guys. Unlike the other company PCT has been working with Sager for some time (from what i gather). It would be logical that they would be able to get information on things like this, long before other, cheezy companies do.

It is possible that they will offer a laptop like this. But, the shipping date is not promised, nor is the warrenty or pixel-policy. This is a case of Buyer-Beware...
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post #35 of 51
9/23/03 at 2:07am


Yes, that is 4 UXGA 23" flat panels. With a 13ms response time to boot. Does anyone have 17000$ I could borrow?

I don't think I would ever actually buy something from these people. Their prices are too high and website too fluffed. (Not to mention I've never heard of them.) But still, some of that stuff they have is impressive.
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post #36 of 51
9/23/03 at 2:09am
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Originally posted by Nathan Bales


Yes, that is 4 UXGA 23" flat panels. With a 13ms response time to boot. Does anyone have 17000$ I could borrow?
Interesing. I was not aware that any 13ms panels existed (except for prototypes and betas, etc..). Course, not to mention that the BEST panels right now are in the 17", with a min of 16, max of 20. I gotta say BS... BAD...
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post #37 of 51
9/23/03 at 2:27am
I expect your right. As far as I'm aware even 19" LCDs are currently only at 25ms.
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post #38 of 51
9/23/03 at 3:05am
Whew! These guys blow enough hot air to float a city!

I'll bet they got some prime Nevada beachfront property for sale too!
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post #39 of 51
9/23/03 at 3:06am
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Originally posted by Divine_Madcat
Interesing. I was not aware that any 13ms panels existed (except for prototypes and betas, etc..). Course, not to mention that the BEST panels right now are in the 17", with a min of 16, max of 20. I gotta say BS... BAD...
Um, they do - 23" medical application monitors - 15 ms was the spec I had. I don't mean to knock you Divine but please, unless you actually have FACTS...
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post #40 of 51
9/23/03 at 3:08am
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Originally posted by aussie
Um, they do - 23" medical application monitors - 15 ms was the spec I had. I don't mean to knock you Divine but please, unless you actually have FACTS...
Well, i wasnt aware of them. And i cant say that medical monitors really count as consumer class... Though, in this case, i am still calling BS. There is no way a no-name company like this would have a montier that good, and have other compaines still trying to get decent 17"...
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