ATI RADEON XPRESS 200M question - Page 2

What's your resolution?

Here's my default and playable HL2 settings on my 200M:

http://img389.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hl28mv.jpg

Keane, what's your defaults with your Intel?

I wouldn't expect anything spectacular from the 200M.. i was going to order the R4000 because of the processor*4000+*.. but the GPU is boarderline obsolete...

I have the express 200m with 128m dedicated on my Hp and it runs EQ2 decent enough on the default settings. Plan to test it tomorrow with WoW and EQ in a crowded area. I have a thread here about the HP zv6203cl with the specs and such so that will give ya an idea of what I'm running atm. Again, works fine for me, but there is more testing to be done!

I have a compaq presario v2405 which has the ATI xpress 200m gpu that uses shared memory. This laptop has an amd sempron 3000+ and I have 1 gig of ram installed; 128 is going to the card so 896. It cannot run the doom 3 demo at all. I have tweaked the crap out of the config files but still no luck, the game is very slow and unplayable on the lowest possible settings and every config tweak out there. It plays quake 3 flawlessly. It has some trouble with Enemy territory, it is very playable, but some spots it will lag out to about 17 to 25 fps; if you are an online gamer, you know this just isn't acceptable. I can play battlefield 1942 with great frame rates at 1024x768; it is very playable and competitive in online play. It is slow with the battlefield 2 demo, but playable, just not competitive; my opinion of competitive is atleast 40 fps at all times. Yeah yeah, i know the human eye can't see over 30 fps or something like that but try setting your configs to cap out at 30 fps and play online and then change it to 60 and then tell me it doesn't make a difference, because it does. I can play Call of Duty pretty well on this laptop with the settings turned down and a few minor config tweaks to keep the fps up; like blank sky etc. It has trouble with the call of duty expansion pack though. I have not tried call of duty 2. It plays freelancer perfectly. I think that is all of the games I have tried on this laptop.... If you like the original battlefield 1942 and other classic games you'll be fine, but don't expect to go playing doom 3 or quake 4 on this lappy because you will be a very frustrated person! Oh yeah, before I forget, don't bother with overclocking the gpu because it doesn't make that much of a difference, well that is worth frying the gpu anyways; I have fried a card in my desktop by overclocking for too long, so don't kid yourself because it does happen; I only overclocked by about 10 percent too, it killed it after about a year of game play. The only thing I can suggest on the shared memory cards is to try getting better memory for the laptop. I am currently using pc2700 333, I am curious to see if 400 would make a noticeable difference.

I have seen notebooks with ati xpress with 256mb memory(128+128) which I also own to reach more than 1000marks in 3dmark05 with the latest drivers.

That is pretty decent for a economy model gpu.

I hope that with better drivers and support this gpu will be able to perform consistently for some time to come.

My 2800+ sempron and 768mb of memory it scores 3089 in 3dmk01.

Compaq V2417AU Benchies and Impressions

I posted this over at my regular forum, but since I struggled to find anyone willing to run benchies on any 200Ms before I purchased it I thought people might want to see the results.

Yes, this notebook is only available in Australia (and the prices below are in $AUD) but I'm sure there are equivalents around the world.

Quote from my normal forum:

For those who don't know, the Presario M2417AU is the cheap notebook that I've suggested to a couple of people if they're after something "good enough".

It's $999 but you get $200 cashback from Compaq if you buy before a certain time.

As most of you know I own a computer shop, and this is a good deal cheaper than I can get this sort of notebook wholesale.

These are the specs: http://h50025.www5.hp.com/hpcom/au_e...2_EL087PA.html

Basically Sempron 3000+, 256MB DDR, 40GB 4200rpm, DVD/CDRW Combo, ATI 200M Graphics (shared memory), 14" WXGA

My first impressions?

Slow. I'm in the process of uninstalling all the HP stuff, removing Norton, and turning off the pointless XP features that slow a PC down. So far there has already been a marked improvement just from getting rid of the bloat that comes with this thing.

I'm planning on adding a good 80GB 5400rpm drive and an extra 1GB of RAM soon, so look for a hardy used 40GB 4200rpm 2.5"er and 256MB DDR So-DIMM in trademart soon!

If anyone has any tests they want me to run on this thing, let me know. I'm about to 3dMark2001SE it. I'll then be adding an extra 512MB a friend had lying around to see how that goes (I expect big things).

*EDIT* Couple of things:

While the screen is a teeny bit overbright for my taste, it is very good quality overall.

The Sempron, amazingly, uses the A64 speed stepping technology. When not in heavy use (e.g. when typing this) the processor drops down to 600-800MHz.

It does get a little hot, but no more than my friends fancy $2200 notebook in direct comparison, and no more than I'd expect the average notebook to heat up.

*EDIT2* Okay, 3DMark2001SE came back with a whoping 3200! Booyah! This was with the extra 512MB in the laptop and the vid memory set to 128MB (system memory 640MB).

More importantly, it has no issues playing WoW. Even in Ironforge, while things weren't perfect, I don't believe there was any issue extra RAM and better netcode from Blizzard couldn't fix.

I played a lot of a game called Patrician II last night, because my friend whom I got the 512MB off felt he needed to make a big purcahse yesterday too, so he stretched himself to pay $7.50 for Patrician II.

Wow, there's a dull game. I'm addicted though, since the main aim involves making money, which is always a catch for me.

Using Battery Eater Pro's Reader test (ie a scrolling document file that runs until the battery dies) with me browsing websites while it was running the battery lasted 2:15.

I'm guessing running a full load like a DVD it'd be around 1hr (those optical drives drain battery like a mofo, even a bitchin' laptop will rarely do more than 1.5hrs with the DVD going).

Gaming I'd guess 1:15-1:30 or so.

I am continually astounded by the quality of the screen on this model.

It is as good as I could possibly want from any screen. I'm watching Blade II on it right now and I swear it looks better than on my 19" LCD.

Compared to the screen on the cheap Acer and Toshiba notebooks which I've also had a good long look at, it's amazing.

More benchies:
3DMark 2001SE - 3200
3DMark 2003v360 - 888
3DMark 2005v120 - 453
Aquamark 3 - 8963 (GFX 975, CPU 5463)

Worth noting, fully DX9 compliant.

List of games I've tried on it:

WoW 1024x768 low detail - fine.
Patrician II - fine.
Return to Castle Wolfenstein 1024x768 - fine.
Deus Ex (original) - fine.
GTA:III (original) - fine.
Sim City 4 - fine.
Homeworld 2 - fine.
Quake 4 - nope, not even close. Completely distorted graphics at half a frame a second, even on all lowest settings.

I've got Doom 3 and HL2 lying around so if anyone asks I can test those too.

I have just read a review on the HP dv8000z notebook and am almost in love. I would like to know if the ATI 200M graphics chipset could handle OpenGL good enough to run a program like solidworks or Inventor. I am not talking about assemblies with 100's of components in it, just that opengl is fully suported and I would not loose dimensions and thing like I did when using solidworks 2004 on a dell that had a 7500C graphics chip in it. Since that experience, I am very wary about laptop grahpics cards.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks stuman

What's the best 3dmark2006 some1 has achieved with this graphics solution?????

Hey Stuman

I ran Solidworks 2005 on my R4000 with a ati 200m. I had no problems with it except that it got a little slow with big assembles, but if you're talking about a hand full of parts without great detail then it should be fine. What kind of model are you using it for?

i think ati radeon 200m is decent enough to play just about all games, as long as it is on low settings. i play COD 2 and Ages of empires III on my v2000z with no problems. it's not the best graphics card, but it's decent enough.

I tried the new Catalyst drivers for it and saw that the GPU is PCI based. It really so? And the Core clock is set to 250 MHz and memory is at 200 MHz. I tryed to play Enemy Territory and it was awfully slow. Maybe the thing is just that I am too low on RAM. Any ideas? Which driver should I use?

How do you turn up the Clock and Memory anyway?

download an overclocking utlility like omega or ati tool. google them. and remember to not overclock too much. just experiment with it. hope i helped.

I have a ati 200m on a amd turion and I cant seem to get the ati tool to work..it says I need to enable the monitor or something like that has anybody else had this problem?I'm assuming it is because of the muliple monitor option but nothing has worked so far.

Any one?

srry, but i've never had that prob, and i use ati tool. i doubt it has to do with the multiple monitors. i suggest trying to uninstall and install again. or try using omega or something.

unless i havent seen......can someone give me a rough est. of FPS on Halo Demo/full version? and yes i mean halo 1

i want to get the hp 17 inch turion with the 128 xpress m, i wanna make sure i can play halo ok with it! thanks and when i say FPS i mean in game online if someone can do that! thanks


soulsaver

u'll be able to play halo for sure. and i think fps online is affected more by ur internet connection than anything else...