video drivers who uses what.

Ok, I'll start by saying I'm getting pissed off! I have been having freeze ups, lock ups and so on do to the crapy video drivers sager has for the 8887. I have even had solitaire lock my system up! I have had this problem off and on since I got my 8887. I have waited for updated drivers that are worth a crap forever. I have went as far as re-install windows. And recenly flashed my bios. If they don't come out with a good working driver (sager) I will never by another notebook from them! This is not to say pctorque is to blame. They do a great goob. It is up to sager to fix this and not some third party on the web to come out with a driver like s-seven and so on. But if they work thats great. We need a poll to see what drivers work best untill sager gets it right. I am sick of hard booting my laptop. Now that I said all that, if its my video card and not the driver I would think no one else is having this issue and will get them to fix it. Would someone who knows most of the driver versions please post a poll to see what everyone is using with the best results.

First of all ATI does make drivers for thier cards. I have had several and they support them fairly well. We are talking about a laptop video card, if you go to ATI's site they plainly tell you that the company that built your laptop is resposible for your drivers. The reason is because of the lcd and so on. Sager has failed to truly fix the problems with their video cards. Many people that have had trouble it has been with the vid cards, which has lead to us (sager owners) to look else where for drivers that may fix the problems we are having. Lets say ATI is to blame. It is still up to sager to push for these problems to be fixed. We can not change our cards, choose what card we get, so therefore sager should see to it that they perform as promissed. We should not have to look else where for drivers. Not to say I would not use other drivers at this point (if they fix the problems of lock ups and so on) And last but not least I spent well over $2000 for this laptop. About $2400+ to be more exact. When I ordered this laptop there was not as many issues as there is now. They seem to be slipping. I do love my 8887. But this is just not exceptable. I have since my last post tried dx9 in hopes this will help. But it still remains that they need to fix the issues with the video cards once and for all. Maybe they should stop using ATI. That would get ATI's butt in gear, maybe.

Check out this thread. See what I mean. This is BS.

http://talknotebooks.com/showthread....&threadid=7759


Sager needs to fix these darn vid card drivers.

Sorry, but wrong. After I have a hard lock up and restart windows error reporting says that the promblem was caused by the ati display driver. I don't mean to flame out, it's just frustraiting. The laptop most of the time works fine, but I can count on a lock up at least twice a day. Most of the time I am playing BF1942 DC mod, but like I said I have had it happen when playing cards! dx9 has made it run some what better. The graphics are smoother. I have been having the "see through triangles" on BF. They seem to be gone now. But I have had 1 lock up so far. We will see how it does. And yes I am using sagers drivers from sagernotebooks. I have all the new drivers not just the video drivers. This problem only occurs when I am playing a game of some kind, mainly bf (thats because thats about all i play) I think it may be an open GL or Direct Draw problem not sure which. I have not said that I have givin up on sager, just upset with their lack of good up to date video drivers. I have had my 8887 since Feb 03 before HT came out on them ( had to flash bios) and people have been having problems with the drivers for as long as i can rember.

DX9 seems to have helped. No, I do not overclock. You are mistaken about the bios. The bios flash was an updated bios version, not "tweaking". I am NOT the only person who has had issues with the vid drivers. I think sager should look at not using ati if the drivers do not improve. Please someone who knows all the different drivers being used for the m9 128 make a poll to see which perform best. I think there are more people having problems then just me. Just to say something good about my sager, I edit video and some audio(fix the audio for my video with cool edit pro. noise reduction, so on) and it runs great. Also anyone else having/had problems with video drivers please give your 2 cents. about overclocking, I think I may try Radge 3d tweaker to turn off some of the Direct 3D and open gl settings to see what might be causing the lock ups. Dont have the time to do it now, if anyone else has done this or is having lock ups and tries this please post. And guys, thanks for the replies and tring to help.

Ok Crashed, again. Here is a screen shot of the error report. Hope it works, I have not posted pics in this forum befors.

I have just started using dx9. I had the problems way before that. The m9 does not support dx9, but it will not have problems. They are backward compatiabe. They recommend you use dx9 for security reasons. This is a driver issue. Look at the error report. It is NOT a DX error. dx9 has helped some, pictue quality in game play is better but I still have lock ups. People have been updating to the newest dx version from the time they first started using dx and I have not heard or had problems doing this myself on other much older cards. My TNT2 is running dx9 no problem. I put a ati 7000 64meg ddr in a 500mhz pc I slaped together for my brother, using dx9, no problems. I have built at least 30 pc's and have always used the newest version of dx with no problems. The most common problems with video cards are the drivers period. ATI and\or Sager need to just get off their can and put some real support behind the mobile cards. Its not like we can just change it to another card.

The driver is istalled properly. The error report was sent to ms. I don't know what a modem driver has to do with my video driver. Im on Lan anyway, I dont use dialup. The error report says it was the ati driver that failed. I have also seen something about the "mini dump" the caused the error. I have also had the screen go nuts, it washes white with line of green, red and so on going down it. All of my drivers are up to date anyway. I am thinking of reinstalling to os AGAIN. I hate to do it, I should not have to.

Yes, that could be. The video card maybe. But it works fine most of the time. Only when playing games is when I have lockups. This is a classic driver issue. Adam do you think I need to send it in or just wait to see if the driver gets a update? If the problem keeps up I will send it in before my 1 year is up in feb.

The service I used to upload the pic hit the 5 meg per day limit. I have run a few other games fine. But I do play DC most of all. I let a friend who works for HP. He knows his crap. He is cert. by MS and all that jazz. He said it looked like it was a kernal\driver error. That they reach a point where they "did not shake hands just right." He said try, yes you guessed it, a reinstall of xp. Then not to install any thing but drivers and the program I am having trouble with. I use alot of video editing software. Maybe one of these has messed with the kernal and can not be fixed by a simple driver reinstall. If that does not do it then its either driver or hardware. Now he just look for a minute, so he could have missed it. He LOVED the sager. When I get time I will do the dreded reinstall of xp. He also said dx9 should not make any problems. He has done has I have always done and keep dx up to date for bug fixes and security issues. It will be monday before I can do any thing. I will post after I do it and test it. I still think the drives could be better. Thanks for all the posts. See ya on the Battle Field.