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post #21 of 31
4/27/05 at 2:16pm

Die-hards

For the real die-hards, you can install Gentoo on pretty much any live, running Linux system, and "gentoo-ize" another distribution. Bizarre, but fun, and it works!

Here's one way to do it to a Redhat system:
http://www.darkridge.com/~jpr5/doc/rh-gentoo.html
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post #22 of 31
4/27/05 at 3:18pm
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by bsmith
Before you start all over Linux is still there, just the boot loader is gone. Look at FCs documentation on how to reinstall just the boot loader.
Nope, i blew it all away. I first deleted the linux partitions in order to make room for the ghost image i had of the restore partition, as i figured this would make the restore process rather painless. WRONG. the restore partition just didn't work and was unbootable so far as i could tell. I then booted my lovley pmagic CD again and totally reformatted the drive back to zero then made a 40gb windows partition and installed winxp and downloaded all the drivers from dell, also making myself a convienent restore CD for future use.

I'm not afraid to install it again, and i will once i familiarize myself a bit more with how those boot loaders work and how to point the windows one to the grub loader.

Redgiki: How much is that S-Video/composite adapter? I'd like to have that. sounds handy.

Thanks all for the great response.
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post #23 of 31
4/27/05 at 3:41pm
In that case yup time for a reload I always learn better by doing. So if I can break it then fix it a couple of times I can get a pretty good handle on it.
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post #24 of 31
4/27/05 at 4:59pm
Engineer,
You might consider trying oce from Xandros. It may handle your boot loader problem better. It doesn't use Grub, but instead lilo. Now there are those who swear by Grub, but for the most part Lilo is a very capable boot loader.
Eric
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post #25 of 31
4/27/05 at 5:11pm
LILO doesn't have try understand every file system type and device driver either.

Though, arguably, this is the weakness of LILO.... just that it's pretty easy to get into a situation where there is no way to install grub... and LILO will work just fine (especially when doing recovery).
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post #26 of 31
4/28/05 at 12:29pm
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anyone who's had experience with this Xandros - is it a full linux distro just with some more windows emulation? I'm not sure this is what i want as i really dont mind windows alot of the time, just want to learn linux. Thanks for the info guys. I ought to be reinstalling fedora Again this weekend.
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post #27 of 31
4/28/05 at 12:36pm
Yeah, Xandros is a debian-based distro with a bunch of extra (closed-source) apps to make it easier to deal with Windows networks. Essentially, its a 'made-easy-for-Windows-users' distro. The installation is smooth as butter, the bootloader is very convenient, and the distro serves its target audience (a Linux distro that would not scare a noob or a Windows user *less)- but this is exactly why I would not recommend it to non-noobs. By default - it takes about 10 mouse clicks ("start menu") to get to a console - no thanks.

Mikhail
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post #28 of 31
4/28/05 at 1:17pm
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slick. maybe i'll install it on my mom's computer so she stops getting spyware wait. did i say that out loud? Thanks for the info. I'll try and stick with some of the tougher routes first.
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post #29 of 31
4/28/05 at 1:23pm
Yeah, its good for family machines. Remember though: you still have to maintain it so you have to be able to deal with it!
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post #30 of 31
5/4/05 at 2:20am
Just because it has some non technical apps like XFM or XN doesnt mean it is a parced down version of linux. You still get all the tweaking your heart can handle. If you simply don't want to use kbear to locate your network drives then XFM will do like explorer. NOw you can go the konqueror route which is still avaible in Xandros. Man, I just cant beleive folks would down play a distro that makes converts of windows refugees. Folks, I have tried them all, since the beginning, how many can say they have used corel linux from the get go or mandrake 7 or red hat 8? I can, I will tell you, when you are about to give up and toss in the towel, it is nice to go to XFM and get your work done. You still can do your work and tweak until you can't tweak anymore.
Eric

By the way, it took 15 minutes to install Xandros 3.0 beta business on a Dell 9300. I used Xandros installer to resize Windows NTFS to 8 gigs, make a 20 gig fat32 drive and install Xandros with all the bells and whistles. Sound, video, internet, all working.
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post #31 of 31
5/4/05 at 7:09pm
/me raises hand
I simply prefer Gentoo. I have ran RH since the early days, (5.x on), tried Drake, Corel once, LFS a couple of times. I don't hink Mikhail was down playing xandros at all. And I quote,
Yeah, Xandros is a debian-based distro with a bunch of extra (closed-source) apps to make it easier to deal with Windows networks. Essentially, its a 'made-easy-for-Windows-users' distro. The installation is smooth as butter, the bootloader is very convenient, and the distro serves its target audience (a Linux distro that would not scare a noob or a Windows user *less)-
More so that he was expressing an opinion of the distro in general. I know he was not attacking it. We all have our favorite distros but we can't take it personally.
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