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Originally Posted by HardBall
Who said that, where are you getting this that I said 'AMD 3400+ hasn't been benched against the Sonoma'. They have been benched countless times against each other. Actually the PM 2.1 and 3400+ often go head to head since in most people's conception, they are very comparble CPUs. Please don't put words into my mouth, whence it never came!
This is a widely accepted ranking, for example: http://www.systemshootouts.org/processors.html
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Intel Pentium 4 Intel Pentium M (Centrino) AMD Athlon 64 / Athlon XP PowerPC G5 / G4 appx. Pentium. 4 equivalent: appx. Pentium. 4 equivalent: appx. Pentium. 4 equivalent: . 4.5 .Dual Opteron 250 (2.4 GHz) 4.5 . 4.5 . 4.4 . 4.4 Dual 2.5 GHz PowerPC G5 4.4 . 4.3 .Athlon 64 FX-55 (2.6 GHz) 4.3 . 4.3 Dual 3.2 GHz Xeon 4.2 Dual Opteron 248 (2.2 GHz) 4.2 . 4.2 4.1 ual Opteron 248 (2.2 GHz) 4.1 . 4.1 . 4.0 Athlon 64 4000+ (2.4 GHz) 4.0 . 4.0 .Dual 3.06 GHz Xeon 3.9 Opteron 150 (2.4 GHz) 3.9 . 3.9 3.8 GHz Pentium 4 3.8 Athlon 64 3800+ (2.4 GHz) 3.8 2.5 GHz PowerPC G5 3.8 3.4 GHz Pentium 4 Extreme Edition Pentium M 755 (2.4 GHz) 3.7 Athlon 64 3700+ (2.4 GHz) 3.7 Dual 2.0 GHz PowerPC G5 3.7 3.6 GHz Pentium 4 3.6 Athlon 64 FX-53 (2.4 GHz) Opteron 148 (2.2 GHz) (???) 3.6 . 3.6 3.2 GHz Pentium 4 Extreme Edition 3.5 Athlon 64 3500+ (2.2 GHz) 3.5 . 3.5 3.4 GHz Pentium 4 3.4 Athlon 64 3400+ (2.2 GHz) Opteron 146 (2.0 GHz) (???) 3.4 . 3.4 . 3.3 Athlon 64 FX-51 (2.2 GHz) 3.3 Dual 1.8 GHz PowerPC G5 3.3 3.2 GHz Pentium 4 Pentium M 755 (2.0 GHz) 3.2 Athlon 64 3200+ (2.0 GHz) 3.2 . 3.2 . 3.1 . 3.1 2.0 GHz PowerPC G5 3.1 3.0 GHz Pentium 4 3.0 Athlon 3000+ (2.17 GHz) 3.0 . 3.0 2.9 Athlon 2800+ (2.08 GHz) 2.9 . 2.9 2.8 GHz Pentium 4 Pentium M 745 (2.0 GHz) 2.8 Athlon 2600+ (2.13 GHz) Athlon 64 2800+ (1.8 GHz) 2.8 1.8 GHz PowerPC G5 2.8 2.7 Athlon 2500+ (1.83 GHz) 2.7 . 2.7 2.66 GHz Pentium 4 Pentium M 745 (1.8 GHz) 2.6 Athlon XP 2400+ (2.0 GHz) 2.6 . 2.6 2.53 GHz Pentium 4 Pentium M 735 (1.7 GHz) 2.5 . 2.5 1.6 GHz PowerPC G5 2.5 2.4 GHz Pentium 4 2.4 . 2.4 . 2.4 . Pentium M 725 (1.6 GHz) 2.3 Athlon 2200 (1.80 GHz) 2.3 Dual 1.42 GHz PowerPC G4 2.3 2.2 GHz Pentium 4 2.2 Athlon 2100+ (1.73 GHz) Athlon 2000+ (1.67 GHz) 2.2 1.67 GHz PowerPC G4 2.2 . 2.1 Athlon 1900+ (1.60 GHz) 2.1 Dual 1.25 GHz PowerPC G4 2.1 2.0 GHz Pentium 4 2.0 Athlon 1800+ (1.53 GHz) 2.0 1.5 GHz PowerPC G4 2.0 1.9 GHz Pentium 4 Pentium M (Banias) 1.7 GHz 2.6 GHz Celeron 1.9 Athlon 1700+ (1.47 GHz) 1.9 1.9 1.8 GHz Pentium 4 Pentium M (Banias) 1.6 GHz 2.4 GHz Celeron 1.8 Athlon 1500+/1600+ (1.35-1.40 GHz) 1.8 Dual 1 GHz PowerpC G4 1.42 GHz PowerPC G4 1.8 1.7 GHz Pentium 4 Pentium M (Banias) 1.5 GHz 1.7 1.3 GHz Athlon 1.7 1.33 GHz PowrPC G4 1.7 1.6 GHz Pentium 4 1.6 1.2 GHz Athlon 1.6 1.2 - 1.25 GHz PowerPC G4 1.6
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No no no no no no no
What about this do you not understand?
Calm down mike, when you get frustrated you call other people names and tend to be harsh
I'll be back in 5 minutes after a cool down
Edit: Ok I'm back
Those benchmarks are also using the Centrino technology which consists of the following
1. The Dothan with it's FSB @ 400 MHz
2. DDR-I Ram @ 333 MHz
The benchmarks that are against the Turion are using SONOMA intels updated platform which include
1. The Dothan with it's FSB @ 533 MHz, a 33% increase
2. DDR-I Ram @ 400 MHz or DDR-II Ram @ 533 MHz (The benches against the Turion used DDR-I @ 400 MHz)
The benchies in the thread you posted are not using Intel's newest platform, how hard is that to understand? How damn complicated is that to grasp? There is no P-M paired with Alviso which allows it to run @ 2.1 GHz like you are claiming.
The Current Alviso/Dothan speeds include
P-M 770, 2.13 GHz/533 MHz FSB
P-M 760, 2.00 GHz/533 MHz FSB
P-M 750, 1.86 GHz/533 MHz FSB
P-M 740, 1.73 GHz/533 MHz FSB
P-M 730, 1.60 GHz/533 MHz FSB
The ones in the benhies you posted are not using Intels latest platform, they are
P-M 765, 2.10 GHz/400 MHz FSB
P-M 755, 2.00 GHz/400 MHz FSB
P-M 745, 1.8 GHz/400 MHz FSB
P-M 735, 1.6 GHz/400 MHz FSB
Do you see the difference now? I really don't have the patience to teach this to you, after all you should know the difference since you are always correct.