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What will be the market of Laptop CPUs like in 6 months

Poll Results: Market shares: in Percent (%) (does not include low end CPUs)

Poll expired: May 27, 2005  
  • 14% (4)
    P4 40%; PM 50%; MA64 5%; Turion64 5%; A64 X2 <1%;
  • 21% (6)
    P4 35%; PM 50%; MA64 5%; Turion64 10%; A64 X2 <1%;
  • 0% (0)
    P4 35%; PM 45%; MA64 10%; Turion64 10%; A64 X2 <1%;
  • 21% (6)
    P4 30%; PM 45%; MA64 10%; Turion64 14%; A64 X2 1%;
  • 0% (0)
    P4 30%; PM 40%; MA64 12%; Turion64 17%; A64 X2 1%;
  • 14% (4)
    P4 25%; PM 40%; MA64 15%; Turion64 18%; A64 X2 2%;
  • 10% (3)
    P4 25%; PM 35%; MA64 15%; Turion64 22%; A64 X2 3%;
  • 10% (3)
    P4 15%; PM 35%; MA64 20%; Turion64 27%; A64 X2 3%
  • 0% (0)
    P4 15%; PM 25%; MA64 25%; Turion 64 30%; A64 X2 5%;
  • 7% (2)
    P4 10%; PM 20%; MA64 25%; Turion 64 40%; A64 X2 5%
28 Total Votes  
post #1 of 24
Thread Starter 
I want to put up a poll of what the market is really going to be like; whether the PM will still dominate the market, or would the Turion gain significant shares with its comparable performance and low prices?

Let's not flame eachother, or play fanatics for each company, but give our honest judgement, about what the market share would be like for the CPUs of all LT segments.

I have excluded the Celerons and the Semprons, the lower end CPUs for simplicity.
post #2 of 24
6% P4, 60% PM, 2% MA64 30% Turion, and 2% A64 X2

I think that the P4 will be pretty much obsolete outside of the high end Sager 9860. PM will still be dominating due to price drops and probable increase in processor speeds (up to 2.5GHz I'm guessing) and the Turion is going to find a very nice niche with the small increase in 64-bit applications and it's mobility. The change goes to the X2, because it will have a small opening market so long as the high performance PM and Turion are still delivering great battery life.
post #3 of 24
After seeing the new Benchmarks for Turion and P-M...i would actually think the P-M would have an even higher percentage than 50%. Maybe somewhere close to 65% or 70%.
post #4 of 24
Pretty much agree with BannedNinja--P4s are on the way out.
post #5 of 24
The options don't look that great to me, P4 should be about dead and PM should have a very high market share. This is my guess:

10% P4, 50% PM, 30% Turion, 7% MA64 and 3% A64 X2
post #6 of 24
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Youhou
The options don't look that great to me, P4 should be about dead and PM should have a very high market share. This is my guess:

10% P4, 50% PM, 30% Turion, 7% MA64 and 3% A64 X2
Sorry, if the poll doesn't fit your conception, it was the result of incremental changes from the current market condition, just an assumption I made; may or may not be right. Just vote the one that's closest to your liking, and then comment on it.
post #7 of 24
jesus... someone spent a lot of time on that poll
post #8 of 24
Bahama.... I always look to see what you have to say because of your avatar....


Anyhow.... yes, that does seem like it was time consuming. Long pr0n downloads?
post #9 of 24
Thread Starter 
Come one people, make your predictions known.
post #10 of 24
I agree with BannedNinja's numbers. P4 will disappear and 6 months is too short to see a real increase in dual core laptops. As for the MA64, i think the today situation won't really change, so the main market part is about P-M and Turion for now.

In one year, my numbers would be :
PM 45-50% - Turion 30-35% // DC pentium 5-10% - Athlon X2 10-15%
post #11 of 24
no clue, as I dont even know what the numbers look like now. I bet there are more people with p4s than you might think. If someone has some estimates from a reliable source, i would like to hear it.


edit: if there was one thing that I learned about the technology industry.......it is that it changes too much to make any kind of reliable prediction.
post #12 of 24
I don't really know what the figures look like now, but I predict Turion 64 will have a pretty tough time gaining ground in the market. AMD have to rely on 3rd parties for their platform, where Intel can sell Centrino as a Intel branded mobile solution.

This is not a comment on the relative quality of AMD's offering; rather, a comment on how important it is to be able to sell a branded solution to customers.
post #13 of 24
Though the PM will certainly have the most market share, AMD should make more inroads.

People have been "forced" to buy Intel and/or felt comfort in buying it since it was the "best' due to its brand recognition. Until 2 years ago, all I thought about was Intel. This as due to its technology and slick marketing. But AMD has always offered good competing process. As I look back I realize that I bought INtel and never even considered AMD due to comfort in the name and that is all I ever had.

But for the last few years AMD has continued to be on a roll, and seems to be shifting culutral attitudes, if you will about AMD. My last 4 machines have been AMD to inlcude one notebook, and this is solely because of performance. SO I think unexpectedly, people will start buying more AMD. Companies have been adopting more and more AMD. Eventually even Dell may offer them.

So I see the PM have about 15% with the PM being the monster at around 60%. The Turion may ring in with about 20% with X2/FX following at 5%.

Though the shift certainly will not be fast, I thinking the change to 64-bit computing may help out AMD some more. They have harkeened 66-bit computing for 2 years now, and apparently the X2 outperforms the Intel 64-bit cpus, and the Turion is a lot closer to PM performance than its predeccersors.

Maybe more people will realize that there is a substitute out there. AMD efforts from the last wo years may pay off a bit more in the future. When I talk to people they simply don't know AMD and it is not offered in the numbers INtel is, and thatis the main reason they do not buy it or are unaware of it.
post #14 of 24
Thread Starter 
Let me explain the reasoning a little.

The AMD maket share for notebooks in 2004 was 5-8%, according to some, and 10% according to others, for example:

http://www.cdrinfo.com/Sections/News...x?NewsId=12479
Quote:
Originally Posted by cdrinfor
With the introduction of its 64-bit enabled Turion 64 processor, Advanced Micro Devices (AMD) is looking to push its market share in the notebook-CPU segment to 12-15% in 2005, compared to the 5-8% share it had previously, according to sources at Taiwan PC makers.
So I assumed that with the introduction of Turion, there is at least a 5% market out there for Turion. And if nothing changes, except the introduction of Turion at minimal market share, then the situation should look like either option 1 or 2. But the question is whether AMD is likely to gain market share. Intel isn't likely to, due to that they already have about 90% of the mobile market in 04. So the rest of the options are just incremental changes from the current situation, where AMD gains less or more market share.
post #15 of 24
The only thing I have a problem with is there isn't an option in the poll for a low % of P4 combined with a high % of P-M. I'd say its going to be like 10% P4, 70% P-M, 19% Various AMDs, 1% other - but not in 6 months, more like 1 year.
post #16 of 24
That poll is stupid. The P4 will be obsolete, but if we vote for 10% P4, then PM wil be really low as well... while it will really probaly be quite high.

My prediction:

P4 = 0%
PM = 60%
Turion = 30%
AMD64 = 10%
post #17 of 24
Quote:
Originally Posted by ilCacciatore
10% P4, 70% P-M, 19% Various AMDs, 1% other
This is, in my opnion, the best guess I've seen so far--except I do think we'll see this in 6 months.
post #18 of 24
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by B Nietsnie
My prediction:

P4 = 0%
Really, how do you figure that?

Edit: I'm not saying that's not true, but that can't be the majority opinion, just want to hear what you have to say to support it.
post #19 of 24
Quote:
Originally Posted by HardBall
Really, how do you figure that?
yeah seriously, you guys do need to understand that some of the p4 laptops are really cheap. And many people dont really care that much about performance. All they see is a notebook for $600 and they buy it. Heck, both of my close friends have a p4 in their notebook. One of em got it for like 599 and the other got it for 1600. One of them just cares about being able to run word while the other games on it.
post #20 of 24
Quote:
Originally Posted by HardBall
Really, how do you figure that?
Me, I just look at the offerings. I don't see a P4 in either Dell's or Gateway's notebook lines.

Admittedly, 0% is a little small . . .

EDIT: My mistake, I forgot the M520
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