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post #21 of 41
5/1/05 at 8:10pm
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Originally Posted by traquemort
certainly is true that it has no problems with games, but unless all ur time on ur computer is spent on gaming, the screen should be good enough to use in all occasions.
The LG looks great with games and porn... what else is there
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post #22 of 41
5/1/05 at 8:24pm
MY LG rocks. It has a LIGHT SPARKLE just like my Dell and Planar and NEC desktop LCD's. The sparkle that got all this started back in November with the 9200s was a frost that produced a holographic effect. If that monitor had not been produced people would not be seeing "sparkle" now.

The colors are beautiful, there are NO dead pixels, and very very tiny light leakage.

This entire mess reminds me of the people who work in hospital admitting departments and often leave for the day wondering if they have some mysterious illness because of a particular patient that complained about some vague pain and wound up truly needing an operation. I have occasional vague pains in various parts of my body that do not return...but I don't worry about having cancer of the pancreus.
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post #23 of 41
5/1/05 at 9:17pm
Here is the profile for the LG. Not sure how you load it without Optical, but you should be able to figure it out with Google.

Dell XPG Gen 2 LG 1920x1200 Display Profile

Note this will likely work on the Dell 9300 with the GeForce Go as well, but the driver may do color differently for the ATI X300 so no guarantees there.
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post #24 of 41
5/1/05 at 11:31pm
Guess this gonna be harder than I thought, I imported the file into nvdia settings but the brightness is way way high. Can't seem to adjust it though.
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post #25 of 41
5/2/05 at 2:14am
here is what i did to get the colors to be a little bit more natural and acceptable. You have to go into the Nvidia settings and set the mode to advanced so you can change each color separately. I used one point for each color. First take the blue down a little. Then I increased the red slightly, and left the green where it was. I get pretty good skin tone colors and the blues are subdued now.
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post #26 of 41
5/2/05 at 3:42am
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Originally Posted by cybtropic
Sorry operaman but those settings really are bad

Here are my powerstrip settings although greys still look off and still some bluish tinting.

You have to apply adjustments using non-linear ramp Graphics arts 2.2 gamma, then:

gamma: 1.2
bright: -35
contrast: -20
temp: 6500K
I downloaded powerstrip after getting my laptop but I don't have "Graphics arts 2.2 gamma".

I've seen a screenshot of some1 using powerstrip and I saw where u select it, but I dont have it! Where do you get it?!?!
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post #27 of 41
5/2/05 at 4:03am
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Originally Posted by TheMan876
I downloaded powerstrip after getting my laptop but I don't have "Graphics arts 2.2 gamma".

I've seen a screenshot of some1 using powerstrip and I saw where u select it, but I dont have it! Where do you get it?!?!
Good question, I would like to know as well.
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post #28 of 41
5/2/05 at 5:29am
Thread Starter 
It came with the latest version of powerstrip for me.

You have to check the checkbox above the dropdown listbox "Use non-linear gamma ramps" I think, which then enables the listbox.
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post #29 of 41
5/2/05 at 5:52am
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Originally Posted by Hazridi
Yeah, that's been my conclusion as well. Sigh.


If anyone wants to try mine, tweaked to look as close as possible to the Sony S170 next to me:


Graphics Arts 2.2 Nonlinear Gamma Ramp
Make sure you have all three colors selected and choose
0.98
0%
0%
6200k

Now switch to green and move the Brightness up to 25%, and then the contrast to 40%


Now switch to blue and change the gamma down a tiny bit to 0.94, then move the contrast up to 30%.

This seems to negate the huge blue color bias of the default panel and bring the greys out a bit more, while keeping the colors punchy.

I didn't really like anyone else's settings, so if you've tried everyone else's and didn't like them, this may be pleasing to you.
I like these settings, thanks
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post #30 of 41
5/2/05 at 8:05am
Are you guys also having trouble with the yellow color, too faint!! In Compare to my Dell FP 2001 20" lcd who has great colors..., oh and also hard to seperate grey black details in f.eks 3d games! I got LG....... Is the samsung better on Yellow tones or the dark ,grey,,,,,,
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post #31 of 41
5/2/05 at 8:20am

Laptop LCDs have a hard time competing with desktop LCDs

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Originally Posted by web76
Are you guys also having trouble with the yellow color, too faint!! In Compare to my Dell FP 2001 20" lcd who has great colors..., oh and also hard to seperate grey black details in f.eks 3d games! I got LG....... Is the samsung better on Yellow tones or the dark ,grey,,,,,,
Modern desktop LCDs can drive a lot more brightness because they don't have to worry about power considerations that laptops do.

For example, the WUXGA has a 185 cd/m2 brightness and 300:1 contrast while the 2001 has 250 cd/m2 and 400:1 contrast. In fact, the 2001 is not that impressive compared to some of the screens they've got out now. The 2005 is 300 cd/m2 and 600:1 contrast and I just bought an LCD TV that was 550 cd/m2 and 600:1 contrast...almost hurts your eyes, it is so bright. Of course the 2001 uses more energy than the whole 9300 does and my LCD TV uses 150watts!!!

The result is you can't expect quite the dynamic range from the laptop that you will get from the desktop.

If you run too much contrast you will lose shadow detail. Try downloading QuickGamma and setting the gammas in the individual RGB channels. It will make a huge difference.

http://www.quickgamma.de
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post #32 of 41
5/2/05 at 9:17am
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Originally Posted by IamDisaster
Modern desktop LCDs can drive a lot more brightness because they don't have to worry about power considerations that laptops do.

For example, the WUXGA has a 185 cd/m2 brightness and 300:1 contrast while the 2001 has 250 cd/m2 and 400:1 contrast. In fact, the 2001 is not that impressive compared to some of the screens they've got out now. The 2005 is 300 cd/m2 and 600:1 contrast and I just bought an LCD TV that was 550 cd/m2 and 600:1 contrast...almost hurts your eyes, it is so bright. Of course the 2001 uses more energy than the whole 9300 does and my LCD TV uses 150watts!!!

The result is you can't expect quite the dynamic range from the laptop that you will get from the desktop.

If you run too much contrast you will lose shadow detail. Try downloading QuickGamma and setting the gammas in the individual RGB channels. It will make a huge difference.

http://www.quickgamma.de
Thanks for the reply and link,
I am aware of the specs, but I think my display is more than bright enough, what im most unhappy with, is the "wrong colors" that this display seems to produse, I have read about the differences between Samsung panels and the LG, and they say the LG has more vibrant colors, but I am wondering if the samsung has a more natural color,more uniform color reproduction......

web76
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post #33 of 41
5/2/05 at 11:19am

I'm suspect there might be a difference in black levels and shadow detail.

The LG appears to have fairly good black levels, a problem for many LCDs. This might come as a compromise to shadow detail. In contrast, the Samsung might have better shadow detail but less vibrant colors. There will always be a compromise with LCDs with this regard...sacrifying one end of the spectrum or the other. By the way, LCDs in general do not have the dynamic range at either end of the color gamut that CRTs do. That is one reason CRTs are still preferred for doing high end color editing tasks. People insane amounts for high end CRTs for color editing. Recently companies like Lacie have offered LCDs that are coming closer to CRT performance.
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post #34 of 41
5/2/05 at 11:41am
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Originally Posted by LordHalo
Yeah, I tried Operaman's config and the moment I changed it, the colors are washed out with a yellowish tint and text arent sharp. Operaman, dont lure members with that config pls. Here's mine

Gamma: 0.74
Brightness: -45%
Contrast: -20%
Temperature: 5600k
What's interesting is these are the EXACT ones used by Dellbert for contrast. I guess I got a better LG than others. The color contrast between grays and black are great and there is no washed out look to it at all.

I guess the quality control for Dell is really not good at all for the screens even within the SAME brands...
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post #35 of 41
5/2/05 at 11:59am
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Originally Posted by Hazridi
It came with the latest version of powerstrip for me.

You have to check the checkbox above the dropdown listbox "Use non-linear gamma ramps" I think, which then enables the listbox.
Could you post what the version number of Powerstrip is that you have? I have 3.59 and cannot find the "graphics art" option, and am pretty sure I'm looking in the right place. Checking the box mentioned above, but nothing is then listed inn the drop down box other than "linear gamma ramp".

thanks,

stephanie
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post #36 of 41
5/3/05 at 8:36am
at the beginning, when installing powerstrip, there is 1 question that says "would you like the ability to install non-linear gamma settings into Windows." If you say "no" you will never get Graphics Arts 2.2 Non-Linear.

You can download and install right on top of itself without uninstalling or rebooting (even though it asks to reboot, you can just wait til you reboot normally.)
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post #37 of 41
5/3/05 at 5:21pm
Hmmm...I'm pretty happy right now. I just used the PowerStrip tools to calibrate/adjust my settings on the LG display and WOOOOO!, this is one of the best pictures I have seen. Nice cool whites, excellent contrasts. I set my gamma at 2.0, brightness at -300 or so, and contrast at 80%, and temp to 6500, for those who want to try.
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post #38 of 41
7/1/05 at 9:51pm
Where do you set the temp?
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post #39 of 41
7/1/05 at 10:46pm
Anyone have good settings for the SAMSUNG?

-jcll2002
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post #40 of 41
7/1/05 at 11:00pm
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Originally Posted by IamDisaster
Modern desktop LCDs can drive a lot more brightness because they don't have to worry about power considerations that laptops do.

For example, the WUXGA has a 185 cd/m2 brightness and 300:1 contrast while the 2001 has 250 cd/m2 and 400:1 contrast. In fact, the 2001 is not that impressive compared to some of the screens they've got out now. The 2005 is 300 cd/m2 and 600:1 contrast and I just bought an LCD TV that was 550 cd/m2 and 600:1 contrast...almost hurts your eyes, it is so bright. Of course the 2001 uses more energy than the whole 9300 does and my LCD TV uses 150watts!!!

The result is you can't expect quite the dynamic range from the laptop that you will get from the desktop.

If you run too much contrast you will lose shadow detail. Try downloading QuickGamma and setting the gammas in the individual RGB channels. It will make a huge difference.

http://www.quickgamma.de
What should we change each rbg to?
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