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6800go / Ultra Overclocking Guide request

post #1 of 62
Thread Starter 
After seeing people's benchmark scores, overclocking definitely seems like the way to go. Also, I found no real definitive guide for video card overclocking in my search... A step by step guide with the pros / cons (voided warranty??) / how to would be awesome!!! Thanks again
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post #3 of 62
I'd like to see this also. I did a "little" bit of research and found this point of reference:

Hynix Memory : Stable without artifacts up to 320/720.
Samsung Memory : Stable without artifacts up to 375/790.

I read that in another post so take it for what it is worth. Seems like avg overclock is around 360/750. I could be wrong though :-)
post #4 of 62
Well, there are two ways to overclock the GeForce 6800 (Go or ultra). You probably void the warrenty if Dell finds out you overclocked or fried your chip.

To get the drivers that I used in this guide, go here:

http://www.laptopvideo2go.com/

I used the version 77.70 although you are more than welcome to try other versions. The difference? Some are more stable than others. Which is the most stable? Depends on the computer really. The only way to really know is try them out.

On to the OVERCLOCKING!! This first section is the easy, 30 second method. Directly after is the more advanced method.



To get here: START -> Control Panel -> Display (Icon) -> Settings (Tab) -> Advanced (Button) -> GeForce Go / Ultra 6800 (Tab)

A quicker way is to right-click on your desktop and under NVIDIA Display click on Laptop Display.

Go to "Clock Frequency Settings" (menu off to left).

Once in the panel, select "Manual overclocking" (it'll pop up with a disclaimer for you to read. Just scroll down to the bottom of the disclaimer and then you can proceed).

There is a pull-down menu called "Settings". Make sure it is set to "Performance (3D)" (like in the picture above). You don't need to overclock 2D apps.

The easiest and safest way to overclock is to simply hit the "Detect Optimal Frequencies" button and the fastest safest clock settings will be automatically chosen.

Make sure the "Apply these settings at startup" is checked and you're done!

One note about this method. The automatically detected settings can be different every time you "Detect Optimal Frequencies". In fact, some have auto-detected crazy numbers (like 500MHz for a Core Clock Frequency and 1000MHz for a Memory Clock Frequency). These are not realistic. To get more realistic numbers, run a 3D program (Doom3, UT2004, 3DMarks05, etc) to get your video card to warm up first. Then proceed to "Detect Optimal Frequencies". Thanks to the members who caught this error.

=== MORE ADVANCED METHOD ===

Now, if you want to try to go higher than these auto-detect settings, you have to be more careful.

First, you need a program called RivaTuner. This can be found here:

http://www.guru3d.com/rivatuner/

Opening RivaTuner, looks like this:



First we need to turn off the "force testing". When you change your clock frequency settings normally, you have to test your settings to make sure they work. Well, anything above the "Automacially Detect Frequencies" (which is where we're headed) will fail the test.

Go to the Power User tab. You'll have to say that you are a power user. Expand the "RivaTuner 2.0 RC 15.6 \ NVIDIA \ Overclocking" (pic shown below).



The value for "DisableInternalClockTest" needs to set to 1. Right click on "DisableInternalClockTest" and click on the illuminated light bulb (see pic).

Next we have to turn off one more test. Go to "RivaTuner 2.0 RC 15.6 \ Overclocking \ Global" and expand (click on the + next to it).

Again, we need to change the "DisableClockTest" to 1. Same procedure as above. The pic below illustrates.



Ok, now we're ready to start changing frequencies (MHz). Go back to the Main tab. Then, under "Driver settings", we're going to click on he box next to "Customize". See pic below.



You want to click on the first (left-most) icon (the video card) which are the system settings. This will open another window.

Put a check in the box next to "Enable driver-level hardware overclocking" and select "performance 3D" in the pulldown menu to the right.

Under "Startup settings", put a check in the box marked "Apply overclocking at Windows startup ... ".



So now comes the fun part. The two sliders (Core Clock and Memory Clock) are where you overclock your video card. I would move them in 5 - 10MHz increments and then test. Hit the "Save" button and click Apply to use those settings. How to test? Glad you asked.

You should use a program that taxes your video card. Most modern 3D games will do it. For a program everyone has access to I would recommend 3DMarks05 found here:

http://www.futuremark.com/download/?3dmark05.shtml

Run the benchmark at least a couple times to be sure there are no errors. What you are looking for are "stars" (random colored pixels just floating), textures popping in and out, colored stripes, freezing, etc. This is your video card going too fast.

Once you've found the frequency where you START to see video errors (stars, popping textures, etc) then drop the MHz back about 10MHz for each slider. Then, loop the 3DMark05 benchmarking demo for a while (1 hour+). This will heat up your video card so you can make sure everything runs smoothly while your video card is heated up (it's most taxed state).

Now, the question, "Will I fry my video card?" It's possible but rather hard to do. See, the video cards GPU (graphics processor unit) has a thermal sensor (thermometer) in it to make sure it doesn't overheat. Plus, your video card can operate at VERY high temps. I've read some people with GPUs in the high 70's celsius. The video errors you see while testing are because your video card can't go that fast, not because you're melting things.

Your video card will cease to operate and shutdown before it even gets close to melting. My GPU runs around 48C idle and around 70C after an intense gaming session.

I've found that overclocking the memory clock doesn't really speed up performance all that much compared to overclocking the core clock. Overclocking results will be different for everyone. Somes cards overclock more than others. If yours goes higher than mine, awesome! If not, don't worry.

Hope this helps.
post #5 of 62
I bought my 9300 in the UK and I dont have several of your drop down menus mainly clock freq settings, tools, add info, temp settings, refresh rate overrides, debug settings, screen res and refresh rates. WTF!!! How do i get these? Any ideas??
post #6 of 62
Thread Starter 

awesome

!!! this is exactly what i was looking for!!! thanks a bunch!!!

1 more question.... you said can void your warranty if dell finds out you overclocked.... couldn't you just uninstall the modded drivers and stuff? or is there physical evidence of an overclock?

also.... does it drastically lower the life of your laptop for overclocking a card? Thanks!
post #7 of 62
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Originally Posted by skamckakashi
!!! this is exactly what i was looking for!!! thanks a bunch!!!

1 more question.... you said can void your warranty if dell finds out you overclocked.... couldn't you just uninstall the modded drivers and stuff? or is there physical evidence of an overclock?

also.... does it drastically lower the life of your laptop for overclocking a card? Thanks!
You can just uninstall the overclocking drivers. They'd have to do some pretty indepth searching to figure out if you overclocked or not. If you fry components, it's easy to see (your computer doesn't work).

I've overclocked a lot of things and I've not seen any reduced life span. I'm sure that if you compared an overclocked card to a default card and ran them until they died, the overclocked card would lose. But, that's gonna be a LONG time.
post #8 of 62
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Originally Posted by Sinister2000
I bought my 9300 in the UK and I dont have several of your drop down menus mainly clock freq settings, tools, add info, temp settings, refresh rate overrides, debug settings, screen res and refresh rates. WTF!!! How do i get these? Any ideas??
You should be able to do EVERYTHING from RivaTuner. That should work whether you have a UK or a Canadian or a American or a Australian 9300. Just follow the steps from: "Now, if you want to try to go higher than these auto-detect settings, you have to be more careful.
"

Did you update your drivers? Go to http://www.laptopvideo2go.com/ and get the newest drivers.
post #9 of 62
Nice GPU OC guide Asdasl.
post #10 of 62
Please, answer this question. Once you have decided on your OC'd setting ... do you just leave it on all the time?
post #11 of 62
Yes, just leave it. If it's stable then no worries.

Everyone needs to keep in mind you'll get horrible artifacting onscreen LOOONNNNGGGGG before any damage to the hardware could occur. As long as you don't crank everything to the max from the get go then the card will let you know well before you are really pushing its limits.
post #12 of 62
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Originally Posted by bigddybn
Yes, just leave it. If it's stable then no worries.

Everyone needs to keep in mind you'll get horrible artifacting onscreen LOOONNNNGGGGG before any damage to the hardware could occur. As long as you don't crank everything to the max from the get go then the card will let you know well before you are really pushing its limits.
Ok, I'll try leaving it on. I'm set to 350/750 right now. Anyone stable at a higher number (for wimpy 9300)?
post #13 of 62
Yeah, leave it on. With 2D apps (no Directx or OpenGL), the GPU runs at 125/500. It's only in 3D apps (Directx or OpenGL) that it fires up to the higher speeds.

I'm running at 390/740. I started seeing bad things around 400/760. These are just my safe settings.
post #14 of 62
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Originally Posted by Asdasl
Yeah, leave it on. With 2D apps (no Directx or OpenGL), the GPU runs at 125/500. It's only in 3D apps (Directx or OpenGL) that it fires up to the higher speeds.

I'm running at 390/740. I started seeing bad things around 400/760. These are just my safe settings.
ahhhhh... I get it. Thank you for your reply. I will try your settings. :P
post #15 of 62
i'm stable @ 373/808 bad core but good memory!
post #16 of 62
Ok, I'm set to 380 / 750 and got a 3DMark05 score of 4446. No weird artifacts ... I guess I have no choice but to bump it up just a tad to see if it will go any higher. :P
post #17 of 62
Dumb question: does the 6800 Go throttle down core/memory speed (overclocked or regular) when there is no 3D accelleration needed, say doing stuff 2D only like surfing or Excel, etc?

I assume it does, to preserve battery power and keep the temps down...
post #18 of 62
Unfortunately you cant...Those 2D games of tetris really stress the 6800go Ultra jk
post #19 of 62
Great instructions! I don't have "Clock Frequency Settings" on my Nvidia left menu, but I assume that's because I'm using the Dell OEM drivers and haven't yet loaded the NVIDIA drivers. Yes???
post #20 of 62
anyone know what the exact effect of drivers is, or what other factors there are to speed? I'm set at 386/782 (detected as optimal, havent tried to go higher yet) with omegadrivers 1.6693 and got 3dmark of 3883. I am sure I can get better, with more RAM, faster HD would probably help, but I dont know what drivers to get?
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