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post #41 of 62
Dl Coolbits or drivers from Laptop2Go.
post #42 of 62
gk128,
heres what i figured out:
The nvidia drivers from nvidia.com need a modded INF file to work. Otherwise if you download those drivers and try to install them, it says your hardware is incompatable. Actually it is compatable so you go to laptop2go.com and download the INF file for the appropriate nvidia driver that youre downloading. Once you got the driver and the INF, then you double click the driver and try to install that. eventually it will fail saying you have uncompatable hardware. then go to c>nvidia and replace the inf file with the one you downloaded (make a backup of the original too). now double click the driver and try to install again. it will start unzipping files then say that there are already files there with the same name, do you want to overwrite? do not overwrite and continue on. now it will install the drivers properly and the drop down menus will be there.

But could someone please answer my question (about auto overclock vs detect optimal) three posts above?
post #43 of 62
Just do it manually. The tweak guide suggested to overclock SLOWLY (about + 10 mhz increments for the core and memory each time) and then make the card test the new frequencies to see if it'll accept it. When it finally says that you went too high, move the frequencies down 5mhz and then test it yourself to see what happens.

See the link I posted above for more recommendations.
post #44 of 62
Quote:
Originally Posted by rfii
gk128,
then go to c>nvidia and replace the inf file with the one you downloaded (make a backup of the original too).
This is where I am getting confused, I am still uncertain as to wjere I have to replace the inf file,as i do not have an nVidia folder in my C drive.
post #45 of 62
Supranman u need to exract the file u d/led , then u can replace the .inf file . If you ran the installer and it told u " no compatably hadware found " it should have created a nvidia folder . try the search feature to hunt it down.

I have a 6800 go Ultra has any figured out how to overclock this card without using modded bios ?
post #46 of 62
After an extensive search I could not find anything remotely similar to what you described, if you can actually find yours and tell me the location I would be very thankful.
post #47 of 62
well on my laptop its in a dell folder , c:\dell\drivers\r103755 . on my desktop its c:\nvidia . I recommend u run the installer again and see where its creating a folder . hope that helps
post #48 of 62
The .INF file you have to replace is part of the DRIVER INSTALLATION. When you download the drivers for nVidia cards, they are compressed into one file. When you unzip them (or click on the .EXE file), they are uncompressed to a certain location, ie C:\nvidia, or c:\dell\drivers\..., etc. If you download the drivers from someone other than nvidia, the files are probably zipped together. From nVidia, the drivers are compressed in a self-executing zip file (there is just one .EXE file which contains all the other files). Running the .EXE file from nVidia will bring you to this screen:



This is the location where the .INF file will be. You can choose ANY place to put these files. Just remember where you put them.

The nvidia drivers don't come with the overclocking utility installed (I believe this is correct as I haven't used drivers from nVidia's site for a while). This is where CoolBits comes in. This simple registry patch makes the Clock Frequencies tab appear. Most drivers that I've seen that are not from nVidia have this tab already installed.

As far as the Automatic Overclocking versus Manual Overclocking with Detect Optimal Settings... I don't know if there is a difference. I haven't checked that out.
post #49 of 62
It seems most people mention that you should get new drivers from whichever site they prefer but they do not give a version or any real detail. I just using stock drivers and I can get over 4000 with over clock. Just wondering if i can get better by using a different driver set
post #50 of 62
Seems that some driver sets are more stable than others for different things. For example, the OMEGA driver set is geared more for gaming and performance. It's really almost a per machine thing. Try the drivers, test your o/c. Find the fastest, most stable drivers and go with it.
post #51 of 62
Guys I wrote a guide, hope it helps. With luck it'll get a sticky
post #52 of 62
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. K6
Guys I wrote a guide, hope it helps. With luck it'll get a sticky
Not to be snotty as I know that you wrote the guide with good intentions, but this thread is an overclocking guide. Check the first page of this thread.
post #53 of 62
Ahh, I see, its a little ways down. No worries, I just wrote it because I saw the same request elsewhere, it never hurts to have to different sources on the same subject
post #54 of 62
I did optimal settings and I want to know how to test if it's stable and it's not overclocked too high. How can I find out? I've ran the 3dmark05 test multiple times and nothing freezes or anything. Highest I've got was 4411. I haven't played any new games like battelfield or doom, so I'm not sure if it'll freeze during gameplay. The optimal settings it gave me were 381/772. I don't know if I should be worried about it messing up my card if I play a game like battlefield for a long time. My temperature is usually between 44-48 while not running any games, and the highest I've seen it go was 59 while playing MotoGP 3 demo with highest settings. But that's not battlefield and I'm sure it'll get hotter while playing that. So yeah, my question is about if there are any other ways to find out if it'll stay stable?
post #55 of 62
Quote:
Originally Posted by Asdasl
Well, there are two ways to overclock the GeForce 6800 (Go or ultra). You probably void the warrenty if Dell finds out you overclocked or fried your chip.



To get here: START -> Control Panel -> Display (Icon) -> Settings (Tab) -> Advanced (Button) -> GeForce Go / Ultra 6800 (Tab)

A quicker way is to right-click on your desktop and under NVIDIA Display click on Laptop Display.

Go to "Clock Frequency Settings" (menu off to left).

Once in the panel, select "Manual overclocking" (it'll pop up with a disclaimer for you to read. Just scroll down to the bottom of the disclaimer and then you can proceed).

There is a pull-down menu called "Settings". Make sure it is set to "Performance (3D)" (like in the picture above). You don't need to overclock 2D apps.

The easiest and safest way to overclock is to simply hit the "Detect Optimal Frequencies" button and the fastest safest clock settings will be automatically chosen.

Make sure the "Apply these settings at startup" is checked and you're done!

Now, if you want to try to go higher than these auto-detect settings, you have to be more careful.

First, you need a program called RivaTuner. This can be found here:

http://www.guru3d.com/rivatuner/

Opening RivaTuner, looks like this:



First we need to turn off the "force testing". When you change your clock frequency settings normally, you have to test your settings to make sure they work. Well, anything above the "Automacially Detect Frequencies" (which is where we're headed) will fail the test.

Go to the Power User tab. You'll have to say that you are a power user. Expand the "RivaTuner 2.0 RC 15.4 \ NVIDIA \ Overclocking" (pic shown below).



The value for "DisableInternalClockTest" needs to set to 1. Right click on "DisableInternalClockTest" and click on the illuminated light bulb (see pic).

Next we have to turn off one more test. Go to "RivaTuner 2.0 RC 15.4 \ Overclocking \ Global" and expand (click on the + next to it).

Again, we need to change the "DisableClockTest" to 1. Same procedure as above. The pic below illustrates.



Ok, now we're ready to start changing frequencies (MHz). Go back to the Main tab. Then, under "Driver settings", we're going to click on he box next to "Customize". See pic below.



You want to click on the first (left-most) icon (the video card) which are the system settings. This will open another window.

Put a check in the box next to "Enable driver-level hardware overclocking" and select "performance 3D" in the pulldown menu to the right.

Under "Startup settings", put a check in the box marked "Apply overclocking at Windows startup ... ".



So now comes the fun part. The two sliders (Core Clock and Memory Clock) are where you overclock your video card. I would move them in 5 - 10MHz increments and then test. Hit the "Save" button and click Apply to use those settings. How to test? Glad you asked.

You should use a program that taxes your video card. Most modern 3D games will do it. For a program everyone has access to I would recommend 3DMarks05 found here:

http://www.futuremark.com/download/?3dmark05.shtml

Run the benchmark at least a couple times to be sure there are no errors. What you are looking for are "stars" (random colored pixels just floating), textures popping in and out, colored stripes, freezing, etc. This is your video card going too fast.

Once you've found the frequency where you START to see video errors (stars, popping textures, etc) then drop the MHz back about 10MHz for each slider. Then, loop the 3DMark05 benchmarking demo for a while (1 hour+). This will heat up your video card so you can make sure everything runs smoothly while your video card is heated up (it's most taxed state).

Now, the question, "Will I fry my video card?" It's possible but rather hard to do. See, the video cards GPU (graphics processor unit) has a thermal sensor (thermometer) in it to make sure it doesn't overheat. Plus, your video card can operate at VERY high temps. I've read some people with GPUs in the high 70's celsius. The video errors you see while testing are because your video card can't go that fast, not because you're melting things.

Your video card will cease to operate and shutdown before it even gets close to melting. My GPU runs around 48C idle and around 66C after an intense gaming session.

I've found that overclocking the memory clock doesn't really speed up performance all that much compared to overclocking the core clock. Overclocking results will be different for everyone. Somes cards overclock more than others. If yours goes higher than mine, awesome! If not, don't worry.

Hope this helps.
Your post is very informative. I received my XPS2 yesterday. Do I need to install a non-Dell video driver for this OC method to work? What driver is recommended? Thanks.
post #56 of 62
Quote:
Originally Posted by RuffRaider
I did optimal settings and I want to know how to test if it's stable and it's not overclocked too high. How can I find out? I've ran the 3dmark05 test multiple times and nothing freezes or anything. Highest I've got was 4411. I haven't played any new games like battelfield or doom, so I'm not sure if it'll freeze during gameplay. The optimal settings it gave me were 381/772. I don't know if I should be worried about it messing up my card if I play a game like battlefield for a long time. My temperature is usually between 44-48 while not running any games, and the highest I've seen it go was 59 while playing MotoGP 3 demo with highest settings. But that's not battlefield and I'm sure it'll get hotter while playing that. So yeah, my question is about if there are any other ways to find out if it'll stay stable?
Just running programs that use the 3D part of your video card. 3DMarks05, Doom3, UT2004, Far Cry (get the patch too), etc. It's really about seeing if your video card can run stable for a prolong period of time. No errors? Should be fine.

That sounds about right for frequencies and results. That's about what I got. I have yet to see anything that taxes your video card as much as 3DMarks05 (looping of course). Doom3 is close. If you have run the 3DMarks05 test for a long time (hours) with no problems, play your games. If you see video errors (popping textures, "floating" pixels, freezing, etc), reduce your speed by 5MHz - 10MHz.

Your temps seem fine. Mine runs around 48C idle and high 60's to low 70's when playing games. The hardware will shut down automatically if your temps get somewhere close to high 90's (celsius).

As far as suggestions on what drivers to use? Go here:

http://www.laptopvideo2go.com/

These drivers are up-to-date and have the .INF file already fixed (so it recognizes 6800 Go cards) and has the overclocking utility enabled. There are other drivers available (Omega comes to mind) by other groups. Some work on certain hardware better than others. The above site is a good place to get drivers, but if you're REALLY into thoroughness, try other group's drivers.
post #57 of 62
Hi,

First off, thanks very much for writing up the tutorial. Just wanted to let u know that there is a new version of Riva Tuner out: v2.0 RC 15.6. some of the steps you wrote are a little different. I was wondering if you could update this guide to reflect the latest version of RT.

Thanks.
post #58 of 62
Quote:
Originally Posted by DJ K Lex
Hi,

First off, thanks very much for writing up the tutorial. Just wanted to let u know that there is a new version of Riva Tuner out: v2.0 RC 15.6. some of the steps you wrote are a little different. I was wondering if you could update this guide to reflect the latest version of RT.

Thanks.
Updated! But there really isn't any difference between Riva Tuner 15.4 and 15.6 (as far as what you need to do in the guide that is). I've added some thoughts that have been discussed in this thread as well. Props go to all those who have contributed.
post #59 of 62
Great guide posted here. OK, I CANNOT get the core/mem frequencies to stay where I put them. I run the GPU temp up to HOT test for optimal and it always gives me back something like 1.06 or 1.24GHz. I have also tried to set the frequencies manually and no matter what I do I cannot get them to stay on the settings I choose.

I have seen this probelm posted by other members and they seem to resolve this but I don't know how. I am runnig 80.40 with the modified INF and an XPS with the ULtra card.
post #60 of 62

OCed 512 Core 1200 Memroy

I've been running with the modded bios (512c1200), and it is very stable (3DMark05ed @ 5823). However running rthdribl for a while I notice the temp keeps rising until it hits 96C then it rapidly drops down into the 80's. At the same time as the temp drop I also loose half my FPS. It does this in games too. Altought I don't notice the frame rate drop as much in games. So I set the bios back to stock and it's doing the same thing. The temp just keeps rising until it hits 96C, but it takes longer to get to that temp at stock. During the temp drop I checked the core / memory clock and the show the same in 2D as in 3D. But if the temp is rising 3D shows the correct core / memory clock 512 /1200.
Anyone else notice this?
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