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4.2k 60gb, 5.4k 100gb, 7.2k 60gb, Hard Drive Shootout results!

post #1 of 22
Thread Starter 
The results are in! Suprising results!

I have a 60gb 4.2k rpm hitachi drive from my HP, and now have a 60gb 7.2k Hitachi drive from my 9300 and a 100gb 5.4k rpm Seagate drive that I just installed today so I figured... why not stick them all in the 9300 and see how big the difference really is...

One word accurately measured in HDTach... WHOA!

Results:
8MB Quick test
4.2k 60gb Hitachi v. 7.2k 60gb Hitachi v. 5.4k rpm
Random Access: 21.9ms v. 15.2ms v. 16.9ms
Average Read: 23.1MB/s v. 31.9MB/s v. 30.9MB/s (3% difference!)
Max Read (approx) 31MB/s v. 40.5MB/s v. 40.25MB/s
Min Read (approx) 14.5MB/s v. 20.5MB/s v. 20MB/s

32MB Test
4.2k 60gb Hitachi v. 7.2k 60gb Hitachi
Random Access: 20.1ms v. 14.5ms v. 16.8ms
Average Read: 22.8MB/s v. 31.6MB/s v. 31.1MB/s (<-- look at this number!)
Max Read (approx) 31MB/s v. 40.5MB/s v. 40MB/s
Min Read (approx) 15MB/s v. 20MB/s v. 19.5MB/s

Now the question you are going to ask:
#1 How was this test done: Reformatted XP-Pro on the 9300 (specs below) and HDTach loaded then run. (yes I did have to ghost my 60gb 4200rpm and have to re-install it on my Desktop, and YES 45gb of data does take a LONG time to backup and reinstall on this drive).

Now the SUPER interesting note:
What people forget is that HD Tach tests sequential read speeds throughout the disk. While this may not seem too important it certainly is! The reason for this is that the outer edges of the disk are read faster due to their higher velocity. Why this matters is because if I took the seagate's first 60gb to match the capacity of the Hitachi 60gb drives the MIN transfer speed would have been 30MB/s! What this tells us is for the first 60g of capacity, the 5400rpm 100gb drive is actually MUCH faster (10% or MORE) than the 60gb 7200rpm Hitachi! In fact the 5400rpm drive stays around 30MB/s until 67-70gb then falls down to around 25MB/s between that breakpoint and 90gb. The last 10gb of capacity gets down to 20MB/s and is certainly hurting the numbers a lot. Everything is not great for the 5400rpm Seagate though, it can't touch the seek times though so the extra RPM's of the 7200rpm drive are still important, but something to chew on.

Overall, very interesting results...

P.S. What's that you say... we need a battery life comparison... how did you know what I was going to be up to next week?
post #2 of 22
interesting...
post #3 of 22
Good note. Thanks.
post #4 of 22
So is the third result on each line from the Seagate 100GB? Pretty good results if so.

I guess I'll keep mine and install it after all.
post #5 of 22
all because of higher density, just imagine the 100gig 7200 rpm if it ever comes out...
post #6 of 22
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cliegal
So is the third result on each line from the Seagate 100GB? Pretty good results if so.

I guess I'll keep mine and install it after all.
Yes it is! I was not expecting the performance I got out of this little drive! After finals I'm dying to check out battery life differences.

I hope people find this useful as I see it is a question asked here all the time. Since I had a pretty good selection of drives to test on the same machine with the same exact software configuration I figured it would probably give the best answer we have to date.
post #7 of 22
you may also want to check out this review of 9 notebook hard disk drives
http://www.tomshardware.com/mobile/20041213/index.html
post #8 of 22
Wow awesome article thanks for posting that... I can't wait for my 100GB seagate seems to be a pretty solid drive as it's in the top 3 in almost every benchmark it seems. Does anyone know if Dell also uses the WD Scorpio as one of their 100 GB HD?
post #9 of 22
This sort of test belongs on a sticky or in the FAQ.
post #10 of 22
Excellent! Thanks for the info.
post #11 of 22
Another interesting note is found here:
http://www.mittoni.com.au/catalog/pr...oducts_id/1557

It seems that the 72K Hitachi is designed to be on 24x7. As a result, it seems to invalidate the assumption made in another thread that laptop hard drives are not designed to be left on. For now, it is the only drive with this stated availability rate. So, leave it on...it loves it!
post #12 of 22
Quote:
Originally Posted by djguyton
Another interesting note is found here:
http://www.mittoni.com.au/catalog/pr...oducts_id/1557

It seems that the 72K Hitachi is designed to be on 24x7. As a result, it seems to invalidate the assumption made in another thread that laptop hard drives are not designed to be left on. For now, it is the only drive with this stated availability rate. So, leave it on...it loves it!
That would be the E7K60. It's a different drive. It's meant for a blade server more than a laptop.
post #13 of 22
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jwardell
you may also want to check out this review of 9 notebook hard disk drives
http://www.tomshardware.com/mobile/20041213/index.html
That is a pretty bad article IMO from Tom. All he needed is sequential read speeds, random access times, and load times.

The fact that he used the dumb click and report scores benchmarks, and never found that for the first 60gb the seagate ran faster than the Hitachi 60gb shows how much effort he put into it.

He does some good stuff and back in 1999/2000 when I decided to sell my site, I was either going to join him and Alex ("Sharky" from SharkyExtreme.com). I had a contract from the guy managing their business at the time, but wanted to go to college.

I think the REAL kicker would be to partition the 100gb drive into 70gb and 30gb partitions. If you could use the 30gb partition for junk like MP3's that don't require that much bandwidth anything on the 70gb partition would just tear!
post #14 of 22
I think some pictures would go nice with these, here are mine for my 100 GB 5400 RPM fujitsu drive

The short test 8MB test:



The long 32 MB test:
post #15 of 22
Quote:
Originally Posted by bigddybn
That would be the E7K60. It's a different drive. It's meant for a blade server more than a laptop.
Where do you see that?

From the website:

Model: HTS726060M9AT00

From device manager on my XPS G2:

Disk drives
HTS726060M9AT00

post #16 of 22
I have the Fujitsu. It "feels" every bit as fast as the 7200 RPM 60 Gigger on my 9200, but it's silent, wherease the Hitachi clicks and clacks...is there a little miniature diesel engine that powers it?
post #17 of 22
The seagate 100GB 7200RPM notebook drives were seen by RamIt on eBay only 2 weeks ago - apparently someone had 5 of the gems for sale. RamIt managed to get an 80GB 7200 but the owner is now shirking his auction sale price and wants a higher price than what RamIt won it for (bastard!)

The average 2nd hand price was about $275 USD (whadabargannn!)
post #18 of 22
Quote:
Originally Posted by PJK
That is a pretty bad article IMO from Tom. All he needed is sequential read speeds, random access times, and load times.

The fact that he used the dumb click and report scores benchmarks, and never found that for the first 60gb the seagate ran faster than the Hitachi 60gb shows how much effort he put into it.

He does some good stuff and back in 1999/2000 when I decided to sell my site, I was either going to join him and Alex ("Sharky" from SharkyExtreme.com). I had a contract from the guy managing their business at the time, but wanted to go to college.

I think the REAL kicker would be to partition the 100gb drive into 70gb and 30gb partitions. If you could use the 30gb partition for junk like MP3's that don't require that much bandwidth anything on the 70gb partition would just tear!

Are you saying if I partition my 100GB when I get it into a 70/30 partition the 70 will be faster?
post #19 of 22
Quote:
Originally Posted by djguyton
Where do you see that?

From the website:

Model: HTS726060M9AT00

From device manager on my XPS G2:

Disk drives
HTS726060M9AT00

Then perhaps the website is wrong. That is the difference between the "E" version and the regular version.
post #20 of 22
I'm just glad my 9300 80gb HD came with a 5400 Toshiba rather than a 4200...

But total space was like 75gb and free space available was like 67gb, what's up with that I guess it's like that for everyone tho...and a '60 gb' HD would actually be like a 50gb HD...
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