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post #1141 of 1457
Weird_Al, this mod cost me less than $20 because i sold my CPU on Ebay for $16 less than what i paid for the new one. they might even be cheaper now.
post #1142 of 1457
ok i have read this who post and it is very interstesting and props to all of yall for doing this. i do have some questions though that it seems no one seems to be thinking about.

so it seems that it is the motherboard socket that determines how high of an overclock you can go(1.6, 1.7, 1.8) and not the cpu that you get. does this sound right to yall.

also one thing that has got me thinking is alot of people undervolt there stock cpu from dell and this works great, however not everyone seems to be able to have the same low voltage settings as everyone else. some have to stop at 1.1 some at 1.2 and some can go as low as .988 for there max cpu voltage. my m140 with a 1.73 is dead stable at .988 max voltage and i can go even lower but i thought that was low enough for me, while others with the same cpu can not go this low. now is this a cpu thing that determines how low of a undervolt you can go or i this a socket /motherboard this that determines it.

now i might be wrong here but it would seem like the comps that can go really low on there voltage would be able to use a higher overclock because there system is very efficient with how it uses its power/amps. this is all a theory that i have and i guess really only might hold true if its the socket that matters.

does all of this seem out there or am i making sense?
post #1143 of 1457
No, it's the chip you get that determines the overclock. If you get a good CPU, you'll get a good OC. For example, if you buy 5 different CPU's, maybe 3 of them will be good OC'ers, but 2 won't. If it was the socket, they all would either OC well or not well, no matter how many CPU's you tried. Some CPU's undervolt better than others, and they may in turn OC better than others, but it has little to do with the socket you put them in.
post #1144 of 1457
i guess i got lucky, no problems at all with 2 pm so far
post #1145 of 1457
so then how wierd is it that the guy that tried like 5-6 different cpu's rangeing from 1.6 to 1.7 ended up getting a 1.8 to work good? what gives with that and his is not a oc chip which is suposed to be the better of the cpu to overclock
post #1146 of 1457
Quote:
Originally Posted by merkyworks
so then how wierd is it that the guy that tried like 5-6 different cpu's rangeing from 1.6 to 1.7 ended up getting a 1.8 to work good?
As far as this part goes, luck of the draw.

As for this part:
Quote:
Originally Posted by merkyworks
what gives with that and his is not a oc chip which is suposed to be the better of the cpu to overclock
Huh?
post #1147 of 1457
sorry what i ment was C0 vs B1 clock stepping cpu's
post #1148 of 1457
Why0Why.
Thanks for all the help.
Since i have been reading in these forums and working with my new lappy. I have gotten back into computers again, and not just gaming. Also i have lost intrest in helping run, 2 large and painfully time consuming klans
I know you have done a great reveiw in here, and hope mine will stack up when do i mine, in sadly, some other forum.
As you have already, done a great one here .


Well This could be cool.
While looking for, some ARCTIC SILVER C i got to calling around, ended up spending over 2 hours on the phone.
There is NO ONE in my state that sells the Arctic Silver line..
This is the 4th largest state in the country, land wise. Not one stinking distributer
I am going to do My E1705 CPU/Nothbridge and Video card with Arctic Silvers latest and greatest.
Also my Desktop over again "It has AS5 i bought on line with another order" and then, write some reviews, Video tape and picture them for a sales tool !!!
And also gonna buy enough of it to start distributing to all the computer stores in my state, cuz i checked and there are over 200 of them, not including the big box stores
The worst part is i have been waiting on my 7800 since the 28th of last month freakin D-hell
But nowi guess it is ok, since i am also waiting for the newest Arctic Silver.
7800 scheduled for the same day
Also thanks to Colin @ Arctic Silver
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post #1149 of 1457
After some prodding by fellow members (especially why-o-why) I successfully pin-modded my i9300. After application of some AS I put it all together and it booted right up at 2.13 GHz.

My before and after idle temps (CPU/GPU) are as follows:

Before (1.6 GHz): 46c/54c
After (2.13 GHz): 46c/58c

It's funny but while typing this (with no other apps running) my idle CPU temp goes to 50c. Are these temps normal or OK?

Has anyone volt-modded their unit after pin-modding to improve battery life and reduce temps? What were your results? I am most concerned about heat.


Also, I thought others would find this interesting: I pin-modded mostly because I do a lot of CPU-intensive video encoding. THe following are encoding times for video encoding a 23 minute television episode from .AVI (MPEG-2) to MPEG-4 (175 MB to 60 MB for use on an IPOD video):

Before (1.6 GHz): 7 minutes 55 seconds
After (2.13 GHz): 6 minute 0 seconds

The mod improved my encoding times by 25%. I am pleased.
post #1150 of 1457
dud,
i used the software voltmod on my 1.6~2.13ghz pinmod very successfully. i let it dynamically change the speed and have different voltages for each speed. at 800mhz it runs at .94v and goes up from there.

as far as temps go, it makes a difference as to what your laptop is on. i keep mine on the bed, which impeeds the airflow. i am going to get a laptop cooler to help with that. after time it goes from 41C to 48C at idle with room temp at 26C/78F.

congrats on the successful pinmod!
post #1151 of 1457
Thanks Ohso cheezy. I tried the voltmod but the tutorial in the general notebook section does not match up with the software. The tutorial tells you to click on an option that is not provided by the application.
post #1152 of 1457
http://www.pbus-167.com/chc.htm
this is the software i use. it is the Notebook Hardware Control utility. is this what you are using?
post #1153 of 1457
Oh So, yes I have that application too. There is a volt-mod tutorial here on the Notebookforums at this URL:

http://www.notebookforums.com/showthread.php?t=70943

I read the tutorial and downloaded the software. I tried to follow the tutorial lin-by-line BUT the software (possibly a later revision) does not seem to have the exact same features that the tutorial calls out.

Anyway, does a tutorial exist for the Notebook Hardware Control?

My laptop is faster but hotter now. I would like to bring the temps down a bit.

Thanks ...
post #1154 of 1457
I have successfully volt-modded my i9300 but it was a little dissappointing. I used Prime95 to stress the CPU and Notebook Hardware Control to step the voltages on the 1.6 to 2.13 GHz Dothan. The lowest I could go before Prime 95 crapped out was only 1.196 volts.

I decided to settle at 1.212v/0.876v. My CPU temp dropped from 60c at 1.34v to 54c.

Oh well.
post #1155 of 1457
Quote:
Originally Posted by dud
I have successfully volt-modded my i9300 but it was a little dissappointing. I used Prime95 to stress the CPU and Notebook Hardware Control to step the voltages on the 1.6 to 2.13 GHz Dothan. The lowest I could go before Prime 95 crapped out was only 1.196 volts.

I decided to settle at 1.212v/0.876v. My CPU temp dropped from 60c at 1.34v to 54c.

Oh well.
no shame in 1.212v. especially for 2.13. what is werid however is that your lowside is 0.876v?? i've had two 715's that i've upped to 533 so the 6x is 800mhz and both of them have been stable at the minimum 0.700v.
post #1156 of 1457
Ziddey,

I will try decreasing the lower voltage tonight. Perhaps my upper was causing PRIME95 to crash. Unfortunately P95 crashed again after only 2 hours of testing at 1.212v/0.876v so I stepped them up to 1.228/0.892 and it ran stable for 30 minutes. I will try taking the lower as low as it will go tonight.

Thanks for the advice.
post #1157 of 1457
Just wanted to report another succesful Pinmod got my m745 running smooth at 2.4ghz @1.452volts
post #1158 of 1457
is it thermal throttling? the temp you get isn't always indicative of whether the heat transfer is going well. i had my heatsink completely clogged up and temps would read 50'c but it was incredibly slow and unstable. it wasn't until i checked the actual clocks that i realized it was thermal throttling by dropping the fsb. i'm pretty sure that's not the case for you but just to throw it out there. maybe a poor application of arctic silver could hinder it a bit.

is it at least prime stable at the default 1.340/0.988?
post #1159 of 1457
Hey Guys, I have spent the last couple of days reading and re-reading this thread and the 7800 GTX upgrade. I decided to join this forum, and hopefully report a successful 1.8-2.4 PM on my Inspiron 9300. This thread has just been a joy to read.
post #1160 of 1457
Gahhh, all these pinmods make me jelous, I have a 745, but my friend told me I can't pinmod because I only have an intel 855 motherboard, is that true? Is there any way to upgrade to 915?
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