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post #121 of 1457
6/25/05 at 6:15am
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Originally Posted by duxwig
HOw do you get the f'n palmrest off?

Im following the dell guides but it doesnt work..

removed 7 from the top side, 12 from the bottom, dc'ed the touchpad and led but it wont come off.

Seems to be connect in the lower left hand side next to the touch pad.
I dont wanna rip it off :/

Hehe, the same thing had me pussy footing around for a while in fear of breaking it . The otherwise excellent Dell guide didn't quite cover that one.

Noody
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post #122 of 1457
6/25/05 at 11:52am
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I editted the original post to state that grounding either pin works. I didn't think about it causing confusion.

Oh and Michael, I think it should be stickied too
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post #123 of 1457
6/26/05 at 8:01pm
Since it works on a 9300 it seems my question is kinda answered indirectly already.

Now for the direct answer to my direct question... will this work on the XPS2?
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post #124 of 1457
6/27/05 at 12:40am
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Originally Posted by tijgert
Since it works on a 9300 it seems my question is kinda answered indirectly already.

Now for the direct answer to my direct question... will this work on the XPS2?
yes
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post #125 of 1457
6/27/05 at 10:00pm
Here's a successful 1.7 --> 2.26 mod!!! So far at least, don't jinx me. I've only had SP2004 stress testing it for 10 minutes so far, but it's working currently. Many thanks to all that contributed to this idea.
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post #126 of 1457
6/28/05 at 11:09am
I ran 3dmark on my 9300 with the stock 1.6 533 cpu (the cheapest one dell had). I have 2GB RAM installed (from newegg). I ran it 3 time and got scores of 2991, 2989, and 2983. I then did the pimod. I now got scores of 3023, 2992, and 2994. The performance increase measures to be between 0.03% and 1.3%. Did I miss something or is this all I can expect to get from this particular benchmark?
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post #127 of 1457
6/28/05 at 11:14am
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Yes, you missed something. Read the very first line of this thread that is bold and highlighted.
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post #128 of 1457
6/28/05 at 11:14am
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Originally Posted by HoofHearted
I ran 3dmark on my 9300 with the stock 1.6 533 cpu (the cheapest one dell had). I have 2GB RAM installed (from newegg). I ran it 3 time and got scores of 2991, 2989, and 2983. I then did the pimod. I now got scores of 3023, 2992, and 2994. The performance increase measures to be between 0.03% and 1.3%. Did I miss something or is this all I can expect to get from this particular benchmark?
your pinmod did nothing
please read
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post #129 of 1457
6/28/05 at 11:14am
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Originally Posted by Why0Why
Yes, you missed something. Read the very first line of this thread that is bold and highlighted.
damn you beat me
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post #130 of 1457
6/28/05 at 11:40am
I missed nothing. By stock, I mean the CPU that came with it. That was test #1 which produced the first three scores.

AFTER, I did the pin mod with a 1.6/400 CPU I bought from ebay. The BIOS shows 2.13 for both current and max, so I assume that means I did it right.

I was more curious if anyone else did 3dmark measures and had better increases than I had.

I probably should have elaborate more on the sentence "I then did the pinmod" to "I then did the pinmod with my newly purchased ebay 1.6 400 cpu" ... my bad.
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post #131 of 1457
6/28/05 at 12:01pm
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Originally Posted by HoofHearted
I missed nothing. By stock, I mean the CPU that came with it. That was test #1 which produced the first three scores.

AFTER, I did the pin mod with a 1.6/400 CPU I bought from ebay. The BIOS shows 2.13 for both current and max, so I assume that means I did it right.

I was more curious if anyone else did 3dmark measures and had better increases than I had.

I probably should have elaborate more on the sentence "I then did the pinmod" to "I then did the pinmod with my newly purchased ebay 1.6 400 cpu" ... my bad.
i apologize
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post #132 of 1457
6/28/05 at 12:15pm
np.

I guess what I really want is an explanation of why or why not 3dmark is an indicator of "bang for buck and effort". I don't plan to undo this updgrade, so I was curious if anyone found better performance improvments for "before and after" scenarios using different benchmarks.

I might even try a 1.8 if I get one for real cheap. Not sure if it worth the risk (by risk I mean accidentially breaking one of the little plastic parts on the casing or such and thereby causing an annoying imperfection ... call me anal). I've seen references to prime95, which I've yet to try. Not even sure if this is just a testing utility or offers some sort of benchmark. I also see many folks using FPS game benchmarks.
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post #133 of 1457
6/28/05 at 12:21pm
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Hoof,

It sounded like you pinmodded the factory CPU. Sorry for the confusion. Anyway, my 3dMark scores only improved slightly. It is mostly video card bound. I was surprised to see that there was little change when I did it. You will see more of a difference in something like superpi that is CPU intensive. Personally, I wouldn't try upgrading to the 1.8. It may work fine, but I don't think the small change is worth the effort to go through it again.
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post #134 of 1457
6/28/05 at 12:36pm
Thanks. Probably wont do it, unless I go for the 6800 Ultra upgrade. Not sure if all the issues are worked out of that yet. Maybe combine it with a 7800 upgrade if the future holds that for me.

It was fun and quite easy though. I have to hand it to Dell for providing such a good service manual. I always thought them to be a company that would make stuff hard on purpose so folks would have to pay them to do any kind of service.

And thanks to WhyOWhy for providing such good and detailed pics for as5 and pinmod.
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post #135 of 1457
6/28/05 at 4:09pm
A good "real world" test of processor speed would be to zip or unzip a large (500 MB+) archive and time how long it takes at different processor speeds. RMClock could be used to control processor speed for anyone interested. I may give this a go once I get my i9300 and finish the pin-mod but if someone else wants to try it first let us know your results.

Martian
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post #136 of 1457
6/28/05 at 4:14pm
Thread Starter 
The Dell manual on how to take the thing apart is excellent. It really does help a lot. I was very surprised to see it too.
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post #137 of 1457
6/30/05 at 11:12pm
I just registered to thank Why0Why for this tread.

His inspiration and the detailed info he provided here helped me achieved a successful mod on my Dell i9300

I went from a 1.6GHz 533MHz to a 1.7GHz 400MHz off eBay for $180 and ended up with 2.26GHz (17 x 133) @ 1.34v (39c idle / 58c load)

I also did some OC'ing on my ATI Mobility using CHC (447/344), good enough for #1 score at FutureMark 3D05 for the X300 class

Anyway, thanks again Why0Why and good luck to all of you!
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post #138 of 1457
7/1/05 at 1:52pm
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Thanks EQuito. Glad it worked well for you.
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post #139 of 1457
7/2/05 at 4:49am
Well no joy for me running a 1.8 745 Dothan in my Inspiron 9300

Pulling the laptop apart was easy, so was installing the new cpu with pin-mod...

I Booted up fine at default voltage with no problems, first run of SuperPi 1M, blue screen, reboot.... Pulled it apart again, pin modded to increase vcore... managed to get a 1M SuperPi run, failed on 2M...

Even when throwing 1.644v at it, couldn't even get a 2M SuperPi run so wasn't going to even try Prime... Ah well...

The chip I got was dated 2003, I guess maybe a newer one might work better?...

Anyway, have just ordered myself a brand new 1.7Mhz 735 Dothan so hopefully I'll have some joy with that...

Cinders.
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post #140 of 1457
7/2/05 at 10:15am
Thread Starter 
Good luck, the new one should work fine for you.
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