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post #1221 of 1473
Hi DonQuePaso,
Thanks for responding---it definitely helps! I was a little paranoid that I might not have got the AS5 down good enough. I bought a P M 735 that I'm going to pin mod & was contemplating opening the 7800 back up & redoing it, but if it seems to be temping alright I'd rather leave it alone.
The coolbits does use the temp sensing from the nvda panel, I believe, so I'm going to go ahead & trust I9kfangui readings.I see that the nvda panel uses 115 deg. default throttle back -----what temp do you consider max stress?Did you use AS5 on your 7800? Also, after modding your 9300 did you get any strange messages popping up---disabling sli, not able to read something,program too big, etc.They don't seem to do anything but I'd like to get rid of them.
Anyway, thanks for your help

I9300-bios flash to xps2 (130w power/ 9 cell battery) | 7800 gtx go | PM 750 1.86 |
post #1222 of 1473
my second attempt of applying the AS5 to CPU and GPU went well finaly. First time around the print wasn't good, resulting in about 8 extra degrees over temperatures listed bellow. Here are the results:

1.8Ghz 735 @2.26 undervolted to 1.196V idle 31
6800 Ultra 2D mode undervolted to 1V idle 43

CPU load 55
GPU load 80



This is achieved with fans on low. Ambient temperature mid 70s. I'm expecting another degree or two drop once the Arctic Silter setles in. The is on the battery setting, CPU temp goes up to 41 plugged into AC. GPU stays the same. I decided to ignore Nvidia reading and trust the i8kfan reading.. difference is 4 degrees.

I will update this soon with load temperatures. I almost want to buy 1.8Ghz to do the pin mod, I'd be happy if I didn't have to do the voltage mod.

How many people managed to undervolt their 735 at 2.26Ghz???


Pentium M 735 @ 2.26Ghz at 1.196V
Geforce 6800Ultra (xtreme G 91.31) 450 core 1200 mem
2GB OCZ PC2-4200 4-4-4-12
100GB Fujitsu 5400RPM 8MB cache
WUXGA
9 cell (2 hours, 15 minutes)
Black Trim, custom Quicksnap cover
post #1223 of 1473
Hellstrider,
What did you figure you did wrong on your !st AS5 app?
I thought about the 1.8 745 too, but decided the risk/reward was not in my favor.Also, it seems that upping the voltage was pretty much a necessity and I didn't want to have to deal with the xtra heat.When I get my 735 I'll let you know what voltage I was able to stabilize it at.
By the way, I got the different heat readings too, but decided to use fangui after the post from DonQuePaso.
post #1224 of 1473
Quote:
Originally Posted by bingham
Hellstrider,
What did you figure you did wrong on your !st AS5 app?
I thought about the 1.8 745 too, but decided the risk/reward was not in my favor.Also, it seems that upping the voltage was pretty much a necessity and I didn't want to have to deal with the xtra heat.When I get my 735 I'll let you know what voltage I was able to stabilize it at.
By the way, I got the different heat readings too, but decided to use fangui after the post from DonQuePaso.
well, I applied it million times before on laptops and desktops... it seems that two of the screws on the left side needed slightly more tightening in order to create the even print... also, thiner the AS5 the better. hope this helps.
post #1225 of 1473

can't get the inner cover open, need direction please

Nice illustration, give people enough information.

I am doing follow your instruction, did photo 1 and 2, then I can't get the inner side panel taken out properly, from photo 2 to photo 3, need advise please, thank you for your time!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Why0Why
THIS WILL NOT WORK WITH THE FACTORY 533FSB CPU. YOU MUST PURCHASE A 400FSB CPU.

This guide shows you how to replace your existing 533fsb CPU with a 400fsb CPU that you have purchased elsewhere (eBay seems to be the best choice.)
I wanted to write a hands on guide with pictures for doing the pinmod and applying thermal compound to the GPU. I recommend Arctic Silver compound. For the CPU, you must have a 400Mhz bus Pentium M. They are readily available on eBay. Be careful, they come in cache sizes of 512K, 1MB and 2MB. I purchased my 2MB, 1.6 CPU for $129 on a buy it now.

Here is a link to another guide. It is better written and more technical than mine.

Another Good PinMod Tutorial

This is a link to Dell’s very good documentation. Follow the steps there, I am not going to rewrite them, because they are good. But I will include some real pics.

Dell Technical Docs for the 9300

Dell Technical Docs for the XPS2

OK, now on to the good stuff. First open your screen all the way and use a small screwdriver to pop the hinge cover. This was the hardest part of the operation. It was a biatch and didn’t want to come off. Slide in the side first as pictured, make sure you get a good pop. Then, place the screwdriver inside the first hinge and pop it off, should be easy from there.



Follow the rest of Dell’s instructions. Here are some pictures at various stages:





Now prepare your jumper wire. I cut a lead off of a dead power supply and used a small piece of aluminum wire from that. This thing is SMALL. Here is a pic for reference:



Once you have removed the CPU cooler, take a razor blade and clean the thermal pad off. After you have cleaned the pad off, iso
propyl alcohol is the best method to clean off the residue. Please refer to the below link on the proper way to apply thermal compound. Both the CPU and GPU cooler could stand to be lapped (smoothing them with sandpaper), but you will have to look elsewhere for a guide on that

Arctic Silver Application Tutorial

Here is a pic of the cooler after applying compound. It looks rough, but it has been rubbed in good. I did use the bag method to rub compound into the cooler, the surface was pretty rough.



Here is a picture of the socket with the jumper in. It is the 3rd set of pins down on row 15 and 16. It is clearly labeled at the top of the socket. The other guide I linked at the top has different pins jumped, they both work because the jumper is just grounding the pin. Either way will work properly.





Here is the CPU inserted with compound applied properly.



Put the cooler back on and that is done!

Doing the GPU

Remove the screws around the GPU. You do NOT have to unseat the card. Now, take a Torx driver and loosen the 4 screws around the heatsink itself. This is a smaller than normal Torx, mine is labeled T-8. Most “computer toolkits” have a driver with 2 sizes, this is smaller than either of those. Here is a pic of the cooler removed and with the thermal tape scraped off.



Here is the cooler with compound rubbed in.



Here is the GPU after cleaning off the thermal tape. You MUST do this before applying compound. I wound up gently using my fingernail. Hope you don’t bite your nails



Here it is with compound applied properly.



Also, a word of warning on the GPU heatsink screws. Be sure they actually catch. When I started turning, some of them felt like they were in, but they never caught properly. It will crank down pretty tight when they actually catch. It is spring loaded, so you shouldn't be able to overtighten. Put it all back together and that’s it!

Here is a screenie of my 1.6, 400fsb, 2MB cache chip at 2.13.



Applying compound to the GPU dropped my idle temps from 49C to 41C. Worth it while you are in there. Feel free to post any questions. Hope it helps some folks.

Why0Why
post #1226 of 1473
Thread Starter 
You have to take all of the screws out of the bottom. There are a ton of them. I think 11 or 14 or something.
post #1227 of 1473
Can anybody help??????
Just did a pin mod with a 735-----wouldn't boot up----message "windows shut down to prevent damage to your computer" IRQL_ NOT_ LESS_ OR_ EQUAL check hardware/ software installation(stop:0x0000000a)
Removed cpu,checked wire---everything looked ok, figured I would go ahead & run a wire to vid(0) for voltage increase, put it together, tried to boot it & it went to the "windows shut down" again with stop: 0x0000007e(0xc0000005, 0x805be830,etc.--etc.)
Totally redid the mod---same thing.Undid the mod----booted right into windows, no problem.
Anybody got any ideas??The cpu seems to perform normally without mod, but with mod can't even boot into safe mode.
When I entered setup with mod in place it showed the cpu as 2.26 ghz.
Should I just forget it or does someone have any ideas?
post #1228 of 1473
make sure you have applied AS5 properly... I can think much of anything after that... even without the voltage mod, it should be able to at least boot into the windows with some instability.
post #1229 of 1473
hellstrider.
the AS5 seems to be ok---I didn't redo it everytime I pulled it apart because it seemed to making good contact(plus I pulled the wires out & it booted into windows with the cpu temp at 26 deg.). I researched the error messages & the IRQL (interrupt request level) message has to do with "an attempt to touch pageable memory at a process level that is too high"---whatever that means. It's hard to believe I'm the only one that encountered this, so I'm hoping someone has a solution. I don't know if this is a hardware or software issue because the other "stop" message I got refers to hardware &/or drivers not being compatible.I'm stumped ( & it's not like I can go running to dell or msft with this).
So in the meantime while I'm hoping to get an answer, I'm just going to stick my 755 back in & see if at least that will work correctly. Can't believe I can't even get it to boot---oh well.
Thanks for trying.
post #1230 of 1473
hey this might help... I dont know what version of XP you have, but the change in frequency might be causing the crash... try reinstalling windows once you got the pin moded processor in... starting the boot from the CD... any instability will show while you are trying to install windows. let me know how it goes.
post #1231 of 1473
Hellstrider,
Once again thanks for trying to help!!
Sunday I pulled the mod out & sure enough the stock 735 booted right into windows. I pulled it out & stuck my 750 back in & it booted right into windows.While I still had the modded 735 in I tried running a diagnostics test--it was passing everything but then asked for a disc for something I don't now remember what(should have written it down, but by then I was pretty fried)---everytime I tried booting into safe mode it would hang at different loading points.In setup it would show the cpu at 2.26ghz.But everytime I tried to get it to boot it would go to BSOD with different stop messages( different parameters) each time.
Anyway, I've pulled it & reinserted the 750. I still want to do the pin mod(thinking of getting a different cpu to try)--but I'm a little spooked.
I've got win xp media ed. w/ sp2. I've got the cd's so I could do a reinstall---however, I'm somewhat paranoid of losing something or screwing something else up. I've only had to reinstall an OS one time on a compaq laptop & lost all files & programs. I certainly don't want to go thru that.
Is reinstalling win xp media a no brainer? Do you know of a good site to find out all about a reinstall?
Funny thing, after reinstalling the 750 I ran a complete diagnostics check & everything passed.When I booted into windows it was practically instantaneous---it used to take 2-3 min. before & I couldn't get it to speed up.Now everytime I boot it's a fraction of the time----so maybe this wasn't a total loss.Thanks
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I9300 xp media sp2 (xps bios flash) | 7800 gtx | PM 750 1.86ghz | 130w PS 9c battery
post #1232 of 1473
I have a Dell Inspiron 1300 with a Celeron M 1.4ghz 400 fsb, can i do the pin mod and make it a 533mhz FSB CPU (1.862 ghz) on this particular laptop, or is there somehting else i dont know about? does this notebook have the right chipset? and did anyone else try the mod on this particular notebook? this notebook might be wierd because it only takes 400fsb CPUs, even on the dell website, the only options to config with are 400fsb cpus, ie 1.7 Pentium M 400fsb. any help would be apreciated
post #1233 of 1473
exas, just make sure that your motherboard is intel 915 chipset, it can support 533mhz and allows the 400 ---> 533 mod.

bingham, reinstalling windows is no big deal, especialy if you have dell cds. just backup all your files onto a cd or dvd or memory key or something and wipe down the whole hard drive... that will give you a clean install, and very likely make your 735 work.... but then again, your 735 just might be a bad one, I seriously doubt it, but who knows...
post #1234 of 1473
does anyone know what would happen if i did the pin mod and it was the wrong chipset? would it fry something?
post #1235 of 1473
I am very interested in overclocking my laptop can i use the same procedure mentioned here with these specs. Inspiron 6000, Intel Pentium MProcessor 740 (1.73GHz/2MB
>Cache/533MHz FSB) > 1 320-3893 15.4 inch WXGA LCD Panel > 512MB, Shared DDR2,533MHZ 2 Dimms, Inspiron 6000
>ATI Mobility Radeon X300 64MB HyperMemory Video Card
post #1236 of 1473
I see a lot of 1.6 and 1.8 being OC. Would you still be able to do this mod on a 2.0ghz 400fsb PM (Intell 755) and would the cost of processor be worth it?...$199
post #1237 of 1473
Thread Starter 
You could try, but odds are VERY good it won't work and you will definitely need to do a volt mod.
post #1238 of 1473
Quote:
Originally Posted by bingham
Hellstrider,
Once again thanks for trying to help!!
Sunday I pulled the mod out & sure enough the stock 735 booted right into windows. I pulled it out & stuck my 750 back in & it booted right into windows.While I still had the modded 735 in I tried running a diagnostics test--it was passing everything but then asked for a disc for something I don't now remember what(should have written it down, but by then I was pretty fried)---everytime I tried booting into safe mode it would hang at different loading points.In setup it would show the cpu at 2.26ghz.But everytime I tried to get it to boot it would go to BSOD with different stop messages( different parameters) each time.
Anyway, I've pulled it & reinserted the 750. I still want to do the pin mod(thinking of getting a different cpu to try)--but I'm a little spooked.
I've got win xp media ed. w/ sp2. I've got the cd's so I could do a reinstall---however, I'm somewhat paranoid of losing something or screwing something else up. I've only had to reinstall an OS one time on a compaq laptop & lost all files & programs. I certainly don't want to go thru that.
Is reinstalling win xp media a no brainer? Do you know of a good site to find out all about a reinstall?
Funny thing, after reinstalling the 750 I ran a complete diagnostics check & everything passed.When I booted into windows it was practically instantaneous---it used to take 2-3 min. before & I couldn't get it to speed up.Now everytime I boot it's a fraction of the time----so maybe this wasn't a total loss.Thanks
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I9300 xp media sp2 (xps bios flash) | 7800 gtx | PM 750 1.86ghz | 130w PS 9c battery
I know your post is a bit old now, but it is fairly relevant.

I just yesterday got a 9300 (traded it for my other laptop). It too had the 735, and actually, much like yours gave many BSODs. FOr me however, two more wires was able to solve the problem. I volt modded it up to 1.43, and she is stable as a rock now. So, if you are interested in trying that 735 again, look up the volt mod info - you might be supprised. It is just a few more wires, and does the trick quite well.
post #1239 of 1473
So, I was following the guide in the FP and was able to get the first plastic panel off and I removed all the screws I could find for the main plastic panel (the white and silver one that has pieces covering the CPU and GPU) but I couldn't get it to budge. Is there something I'm missing? Thanks!
post #1240 of 1473
i just bought a pentium m 725 off of ebay.... for $80 shipped!!!

i'm sooooo excited to do this.
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