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post #1341 of 1473
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That is the CPU you need.

Phone wire is too thick. You need to use something braided(like lamp cord or speaker wire) and pull out a strand.
post #1342 of 1473
Cool. I've got plenty of speaker wire I can use. Thx.

BTW, what kind of sandpaper do you used to lap it? I saw mention of 2000 grit wet paper or something to that effect. Can you just pick that up at Home Depot or something?
post #1343 of 1473
have just finished upgrading my i6000 from a 730 1.6 to a 715 1.5 @ 2.0. working just fine. put as5 on cpus die and on x300s (128mb) also. nice guide, tnx.
post #1344 of 1473
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Originally Posted by Flav_cool
Ok guys. I read 14 pages of this thread and it was starting to get repetitive, and I got exams to study for lol.

I have currently a M750 (1.86GHz, 533MHz FSB). The increase to 2.13 from 1.6 isn't much, but if I can do it for free by selling my old 1.86GHz that'd be cool. OR do you think I should take my chances with a 1.7? Are there people on this board selling ones that have been confirmed for the pin mod?

My main problem is wtf am I gonna sell my 1.86 to? I've never sold anything on ebay before...
I pinmood from a 1.6M 400FSB to 2.13 for a year and quiet happy with it recently bought a 1.7 one, it is not a whole lot of diffrence but the computer does showes 2.26G under device manager any time.

And I did feel it gives you more power especially when you play video under a WGXGA screen it is just beautiful.

For most users 1.6 to 2.13 is a great jump, 1.7 to 2.26 you ain't get as much as 1.6 one, therefore that is a good investment for the best value you get, but I am not going back to 1.6 one, I like the power of 2.26

Additional 2.26GHz is the fastest speed you can get on 9300 board can carry, even you put a 1.8G 400FSB you will get the same thing, so, depends on budget, 1.7G is a better choice, for me
post #1345 of 1473
Afaik, there is no limit to the speed a 9300 can take although there is obviously a limit at which you're going to be stable. As you can see from the 3rd post in this thread, lucidchaos is running 2.66 ghz on a 9300 but failed one test so he lowered it to 2.53 completely stable.
post #1346 of 1473
just wanted to comment that my 1.73 is completely stable at 2.26 even with an undervolt (~1.29v instead of 1.34). Also today I took it apart and put AS5 on the cpu and videocard and immediatly was ~ 5 degrees celsius cooler under load for both the cpu and the videocard
post #1347 of 1473
Hi all, I'd really appreciate some advice as I'm planning on buying a 1.7 to pinmod to 2.26 on my 9300 w/1.86.

I'm all ready to order the 1.7 I found here:

http://www.impactcomputers.com/rh80536gc0292m.html

and to buy some AS5.

The only thing I'm worried about is if I end up having to voltmod. I been researching and I partially understand it but I have no idea how I would do it myself.

I know there's like a 85% chance it would run stable with no need to alter the voltage but should I still try to lower the voltage as much as possible retaining stability? Will my battery or system's life be shorter if I do the mod and keep the default voltage?

Thanks in advance for suggestions
post #1348 of 1473
Here's to another successful pinmod on a 1.6 to 2.13. Processor only cost me $40! Plus some AS5 of course. Sweet deal for a 25% increase. I freaked out at first cause it didn't register the change, then I reopened it up and realized I'd put the pin on rows 16 & 17 instead of 15 & 16. DOH!!! Stuck in the right holes and we were golden. It's amazing what'll happen once you get it in the right hole.

I'd like to thank my fans, my family, India and those that contributed to this thread!

Now I gotta go modify my sig.
post #1349 of 1473
I just put AS5 on my CPU and GPU and it seems like my idle temps went up a bit. Yes I applied it correctly. I actually have applied it twice in the last couple days because my first attempt was almost 8 degrees C hotter. Even now it is about 8 degrees hotter than my stock grease. Is there a reason for this? The only thing different I did from this guide was a didn't leave really any AS5 on the heatsink after I applied it. I wiped most of it off because I only wanted to fill any microscopic valleys. Beside that everything else was the same. I keep reading about different ways to apply AS5 and I really cant decide which is the most effective.
post #1350 of 1473
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Originally Posted by zzpulp
Afaik, there is no limit to the speed a 9300 can take although there is obviously a limit at which you're going to be stable. As you can see from the 3rd post in this thread, lucidchaos is running 2.66 ghz on a 9300 but failed one test so he lowered it to 2.53 completely stable.
Just wanted to confirm that you are correct, the motherboard does not limit you to the 2.26 ghz as someone mistakenly claimed. I am still running my 755 @ 2.66 ghz, 100% stable and around 65 deg C under peak load.

It isn't the performer that the newer dual cores are, but for games designed for single core it still cruises along just fine. I play EQ2, FEAR, Oblivion and other games with the settings at or near max with excellent results. I was even getting 35-40 FPS in Vanguard (fustercluck that it's engine is) on high quality (albeit dropping the res down to 1600x1000).
post #1351 of 1473
I have a 755 to 2.66 using vid 4 ground (anything less was unstable) but the heat was getting to 85+C
so i downgraded it using NHC to 2.4 and it stays at 72C under load...
is in an xps gen 2...is it possibly i didnt apply the thermal compound correctly or is it just how hot things get? at 2.4 i get 36 seconds on super PI and 32 @ 2.66...
post #1352 of 1473
well you are running 1.596 V at it...
What voltage are you using for it downclocked to 2.4?
If you're dead set on getting 2.66 I'd try to get lucky on another 2.0 400 mhz that doesnt require such an addition to voltage. If you dont need this clock speed then I'd recommend a 2.4 (lucky ones dont need voltmod) or 2.26 (most stable choice)

At any rate, here is some other advice. I'm assuming you up'ed the voltage from 1.452 all the way to 1.596 and didn't try to back off on it through software...
Request a voltage in nhc between 1.212 and 1.324 to attain values in the range I mentioned earlier since you have forced vid4 low...
That said, someone else here ran 1.596 V at their 2.66 and its load temps were about 70 C so maybe you were just unlucky* and need to try another processor as I mentioned above.

*I wouldnt call it unlucky as much as I'd call it impractical...Intel would have released faster processors than the 2.26 if they were more stable...
post #1353 of 1473
I used vid 4 pin so whatever that volage increase is. i tried 2/1/0 combo (what a pain!) but it wouldnt get into windows w/o BSOD.

i back off the volatage using NHC at 2.666 down to 1.30 something but it doesnt make an appreciable temp difference - below that it crashes. ill try and reseat the CPU and clean off the old AS5 - it might be hosnig it up. do pentium M cpus have thermal pads on them? do i scrape that off? or is it just the heat sinks?
Thanks for the reply!

Dan
post #1354 of 1473
Your questions regarding AS5 are in the first post of this thread. I just need you to be clear in terms of what voltage you crash at? Are you sure its one step below 1.308 (1.292)? Just asking because certain voltages you have tried have actually been quite high. For instance, 1.452 is the same as 1.708 with vid4 ground. With vid4 ground, do not request any voltage between 1.340 and 1.452 inclusive as its actually more voltage than 1.596 V.
post #1355 of 1473
i am running 18x multiplier at 1.276V - anything below that crashes. i am keeping the max mult at that to keep heat down. anything below 1.324 V at 20x locks things up.
there is not voltage above 1.340 on NHC...
post #1356 of 1473
lol my bad...wasnt thinking about that...ah, so the only spike that could occur is from going from 0.956 -> 0.940 in NHC with vid4 ground (not important)
Anyway, as I said I guess you're just gonna have a to find a new processor and I'd recommend you keep it restricted to 1.8 or less
Unless of course 72 C load on 18x multi is good enough for you
post #1357 of 1473
I know i'm not supposed to put this here, but, someone on my car club is selling 2 pentium m 1.6ghz 2mb cache 400fsb socket 479 for 23 dollars shipped apiece. I just sold my 9300 after i bought an xps gen2 so i have no need. If anyone is still looking for one of these pm me and i'll give you the link.
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the speed step is working fine too! woot!

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I just tried to do the intel 2.0GHz 755 chip, but it was unsuccesful. I did the volt mod and brought that up to 1.532 I believe. Just keeps rebooting itself when windows starts booting up. Any suggestions or do I need to get a 1.6 or 1.8 chip. Anybody had success with the 2.0 chips?
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Originally Posted by s1wlighting View Post
I just tried to do the intel 2.0GHz 755 chip, but it was unsuccesful. I did the volt mod and brought that up to 1.532 I believe. Just keeps rebooting itself when windows starts booting up. Any suggestions or do I need to get a 1.6 or 1.8 chip. Anybody had success with the 2.0 chips?
It's going to be nearly impossible to get the 755 chip to work. It's very rare to get one that works without needing a crazy high amount of voltage. You could probably put somewhere around 1.6v to yours but it would overheat for sure and it still might not even be stable.

I had success with the 745, but I read a lot of people saying it's difficult to get them stable as well. My friend had a 745 we tried and we couldn't get his stable with even 1.5+ volts. The 735 should be a pretty easy one to get stable though. With 745 it's hit or miss.
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