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post #321 of 1457
8/19/05 at 9:36am
Anyone here wants to help me pinmod my 6000d 1.6 400mhz fsb laptop. I will make it worth your while. Please PM me if interested.
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post #322 of 1457
8/20/05 at 12:53pm
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Originally Posted by slugger
Would this be my best bet? Also is that a reasonable price for it? http://cgi.ebay.com/Intel-Centrino-P...QQcmdZViewItem
I bought mine for $100 shipped. Seems way too high to me. About to go install it now...

May check different hardware forums like Anandtech and ArsTechnia...Hardforums...

That's where I got mine, someone upgrading their Sony 1.6/400 to something faster.
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post #323 of 1457
8/20/05 at 6:25pm
Here's a failure of 1.7@2.26.

BIOS shows 2.26, get past the black Windows XP screen and BSOD and reboot as soon as it turns to the blue login screen.

Guess I'll be dumping this one on ebay and buy a 1.6 and try again
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post #324 of 1457
8/20/05 at 8:25pm
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Originally Posted by BrunoPuntzJones
Here's a failure of 1.7@2.26.

BIOS shows 2.26, get past the black Windows XP screen and BSOD and reboot as soon as it turns to the blue login screen.

Guess I'll be dumping this one on ebay and buy a 1.6 and try again

That SUX. Keep trying. My 1.8 does 2.4 on my XPS.
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post #325 of 1457
8/21/05 at 12:18am
Thread Starter 
Bruno: Did you try volt modding too?
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post #326 of 1457
8/21/05 at 7:15am
Can you voltmod the XPS2 too?
Just curious what the use would be, the video card needs all the cool air it can get and a hot cpu takes away cool air from that.

My 1.7 runs at 2.26@1.24v and might go lower (didn't work at 1.18v, crappy shot cpu )
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post #327 of 1457
8/21/05 at 11:59am
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Originally Posted by Why0Why
Bruno: Did you try volt modding too?
Negative, requires bridging another set of pins no? I'd rather not have to over-volt, ain't that big of a deal to just wait for a 725.

Edit: Oh and just to add, now I can fully strip, change the processor, and rebuild the 9300 in about 10 minutes now

First shot took just over an hour.
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post #328 of 1457
8/21/05 at 12:01pm
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Originally Posted by tijgert
Can you voltmod the XPS2 too?
Just curious what the use would be, the video card needs all the cool air it can get and a hot cpu takes away cool air from that.

My 1.7 runs at 2.26@1.24v and might go lower (didn't work at 1.18v, crappy shot cpu )
More voltage can get you a more stable rig if stock voltage won't cut it. I don't mind crazy over-volts on a desktop. Simple to replace if it fries. I'd rather keep the extra heat away from my balls on a laptop.
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post #329 of 1457
8/22/05 at 5:41am
What would the purpose of a super-speed XPS2 be? You're just taking cooling away from the most critical part, the GPU?
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post #330 of 1457
8/22/05 at 2:16pm
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Originally Posted by tijgert
What would the purpose of a super-speed XPS2 be? You're just taking cooling away from the most critical part, the GPU?
I have no idea what you are trying to say...
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post #331 of 1457
8/23/05 at 7:11am
Simple, why would you want to gain even more CPU speed on a gaming machine when the greatest bottleneck is the GPU and the inability to OC it any further due to heat constrictions.

By increasing the heat from the CPU you're effectively reducing cooling performance of the GPU cooling assembly and making it less OC'able thus performing less.

Gettit?
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post #332 of 1457
8/23/05 at 12:18pm
Ah I see what you are saying. I don't think the extra heat generated by the CPU is going to have much, if any effect on the GPU's potential. They are far enough apart and I'd imagine you will run into the GPU's max o/c due to the physical chip long before you'd reach the max temp it can handle.

I'd do some converting of my DVDs to Divx and CPU power affects encoding time. Also, oc'ing is something to do. Why not get the best bang for the buck? Get the most you can out of it. Or just the general tinkering aspect. Why do some guys get their guns engraved? Just because
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post #333 of 1457
8/23/05 at 1:23pm
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They are far enough apart
I'm affraid you don't really know much about the cooling assembly within the XPS2.
Allow me to teach you

There are 2 heatpipes with radiator blocks for the GPU (1 on the left and 1 on the right side of the chassis) and 1 for the CPU.

The 'left' one is co-located directly behind the radiator of the CPU and they both use the same cooling airflow.
The air thus cools the CPU radiator first and only then the GPU radiator.

A stupid order, but perhaps made so due to technical constraints.

A hotter CPU means the air leaving the CPU radiator will be warmer too and will be less effective in cooling the GPU radiator thus increasing the GPU temp.

Mind you, my own tests with undervolting/clocking the CPU didn't exactly drop the GPU temp by any huge ammount, but it could make a difference and the principle is sound.
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post #334 of 1457
8/25/05 at 11:21pm
Ah a different assembly than the 9300, just assumed it was the same. See what happens when you assume

Should have a Dothan 725 in tomorrow or saturday, will give it another shot.

Just have to make it clear when I sell the 735 that it won't pin-mod.
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post #335 of 1457
8/26/05 at 3:43pm
'Assumption is the mother of all ****-ups'

or

'If you assume you make an ASS out of U and ME'

gettit
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post #336 of 1457
8/28/05 at 9:20pm
I am wondering how many have taken the 1.8 up to 2.4 ? I ahve a 1.83 9300 coming in tomorrow. I think for this to be worth it to me I should try to get to 2.4. How many have had sucess at that speed ? Has anyone gone higher......with stability ?
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post #337 of 1457
8/28/05 at 10:25pm
Your 9300 is coming with a 400FSB 1.8? Won't work if it's coming with a 533 one.

The numbers I've seen thrown around here are 99% with a 1.6, 85% with 1.7, and 50% with a 1.8.
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post #338 of 1457
8/28/05 at 11:00pm
No it's coming with a 533 1.86, but I will buy a 1.8 400 and sell my 1.86 on ebay if I can get a 2.4 speed out of the 1.8 400. This might mean trying to find a new retail box cpu, for cheap. The retail box will probably be more overclockable and if not I can return it.
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post #339 of 1457
8/28/05 at 11:55pm
It'd be more cost effective to buy a 1.6 533 with it and sell it and replace it with a 1.6 400. That'd be best bang/buck ratio. If the 1.8 doesn't work, you'll have to pay a restocking fee. And a retail 1.8 will run you a few hundred bucks no?
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post #340 of 1457
8/29/05 at 12:57am
Yeah, I was checking around and a 1.7 might be a better bet and that would be used off ebay. I'll keep the 1.86 because overclocking isn't a sure thing so even if I don't have a overclockable 400Mhz chip, I'll still have my 1.86 running along.

I am still trying to find out what's the highest overclock anyone has gotten from these 400Mhz chips, and where did they get them from ?
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