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post #341 of 1457
8/29/05 at 2:56am
Hmm...skipped a few pages, admittedly in here, but have a few questions:

1) What is the resulting fsb speed? We went from 533mhz to 400mhz to gain clock speed? Link me to something showing there's a performance gain here, please, and how big as well.

2) Other than a 7200rpm drive, ram, and the top-end gpu, not too much else to help out with performance, right? Considering getting a base 9300 with those specs, the base processor, then trying the OC thing over winter break as a hobby.

3) Have any of these modified systems had reliability issues? Can they run nearly 24/7 with long periods of standby (I don't like to turn mine off, always a pain)? If we were just taking a product that was artificially lowered for cost reasons and clocking it, fine, but I haven't seen anything indicating this chip can hold this for too long, though it is one of the easiest OC methods I've heard of. I'm sure Intel is kicking themselves for making it so easy to "hotwire" their CPUs.
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post #342 of 1457
8/29/05 at 1:02pm
The resulting FSB is 533. What you are wanting is the higher multiplier on the 400 chips. A 533 1.6 is 3.0x. 533x3.0=1600mhz. By getting a 400, and forcing the 533FSB, you use it's multiplier (1600mhz/400fsb=4.0) to go with the forced 533 (533x4.0=2130mhz).

So obviously a 2.13Ghz 533 is faster than a 1.6Ghz 533.

Remember that if you order a 9300 that it will come with a 533 processor which won't do the trick.

Stability should be fine if you run the tests on it for a while. If the stress tests don't crash it, general usuage sure won't. Longevity is irrelevant, it will last longer than you'll keep it.

I'd personally go with a 1.6 instead of a 1.7 or 1.8. The cost and % chance of it not working isn't worth it.
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post #343 of 1457
8/29/05 at 1:44pm
What would you do in my case where you already have the 1.86 ? Would 2.13 be worth it, or should I go higher ?
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post #344 of 1457
8/29/05 at 4:09pm
cant seem to find an 1.6ghz dothans on ebay anymore
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post #345 of 1457
8/29/05 at 4:53pm
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Originally Posted by Mixman
What would you do in my case where you already have the 1.86 ? Would 2.13 be worth it, or should I go higher ?
Negligible performance. Only real reason would be either you need something to do, or could make money and get a faster processor.

Have to see how much a 1.6 400 and a 1.86 533 sells for
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post #346 of 1457
8/29/05 at 9:02pm
Bruno - just a clarification - a fsb of 533 is really 133. The 1.6/533 dothan has a multiplier of 12 (12x133=1600) whereas the 1.6/400 is 16 (16x100=1600). So a 1.6/400 at 533 (16x133=2130) is faster. I know it's a little thing, but I have no idea why Intel insists on rating the fsb speeds at these levels and not the true speeds. Granted, there is ddr (double data rate - hense twice the speed) going on, effectively twice, but... AMD mobos are generally rated at 1/2 the speed of the intel (so instead of 400 would be 200) though it's still not the 'true' speed.....
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post #347 of 1457
8/29/05 at 10:43pm
True, I guess I should have spelled it out more

Double then quad pumped buses. Devil is in the details
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post #348 of 1457
8/31/05 at 11:07pm
Finally got around to trying out my new 1.6 400 and booting at 2.13 with no problems. The 1.7 I had was BSODing at 2.26. So looks like I was one of the 15% who can't do 2.26
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post #349 of 1457
9/3/05 at 12:28am
Got a 1.7Ghz off of Ebay. Nice price too...

Anyway, it successfully OC'd to 2.26Ghz (but I booted into safe mode first and disabled CHC). So I haven't even begun to try undervolting it.

Oh, I had to use thermal paste instead of AS5. Impatience and convience (had to wait three days just for thermal paste, it'll be a week for AS5 =( ) convinced me to. Will that bite me later on? The processor at full load can go up to 55 degrees, before windows BSOD's at least.
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post #350 of 1457
9/3/05 at 1:00am
If you can save a few degrees, why not? The temperature change depends on how well you applied the other thermal grease. And am I reading it right that you're already getting BSOD's? Sounds like it wasn't a successful mod...
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post #351 of 1457
9/3/05 at 1:09pm
Yeah as5 won't have anything to do with BSODs. 55 degrees is fine, it can handle far more than that. Generic thermal paste will be fine. If it were me, I wouldn't bother taking it all apart just to get a few degrees cooler.
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post #352 of 1457
9/3/05 at 10:56pm
Thread Starter 
I wouldn't take it apart again either. The couple of degrees aren't worth it!
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post #353 of 1457
9/10/05 at 11:00am

i2200 has the 910gml chipset ,i want to know whether it can uses pinmod?

I have a inspiron 2200
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post #354 of 1457
9/15/05 at 3:45am
I have a 1.8 GHz, 2MB, 400FSB chip on my M60. I am goin to receive a D810 soon. I'll try the mod and report.

By the way, is there a good soul who can send me pictures and measurements of the 9300's video card? I am trying to figure out if the D810's card can be upgraded to 6800.
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post #355 of 1457
9/16/05 at 11:22am
just wanted to chime in with another succesfful 1.7 -to- 2.26 processor upgrade. I'd say my biggest difficulty was guiding the wire into the socket...

But anyway it seems to be nice and stable. My only issue was that initially it was not booting..it would power on for a moment and then just cut off - with no picture on the screen ever appearing. Im not sure what caused that because I switched back to the original processor temporarily and it did the same thing.

Anyway - its working fine now...screamin along @ 2.26 GHZ
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post #356 of 1457
9/16/05 at 3:25pm
Thread Starter 
Congrats! Always glad to hear another success!
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post #357 of 1457
9/16/05 at 4:54pm
MY pin mod did not work. I have a msi260, and you have to manually set the fsb via a set of jumpers. When I did the pin mod and set the jumpers to 533, the comp did not post. When I put the jumpers back on 400, the comp posted but recognized the chip as a 1.6... I'll try to redo the pin mod and switch out the wire, maybe its not making good contact (which I doubt, but nevertheless I will try it)....
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post #358 of 1457
9/16/05 at 5:05pm
Well here's another successful report of a 1.7 to 2.26GHz
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post #359 of 1457
9/16/05 at 5:41pm
Just add me to the team of 1.7 to 2.26Ghz pin modding!!! Pretty much stable at 1.308v and 0.700v. Still running Prime95, maybe in 3 more hours to make sure it rocks!
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post #360 of 1457
9/16/05 at 6:32pm
Nice! congrats to you guys with the 1.7 @ 2.26. I went the sure bet route and did the 1.6 @ 2.13.

Oh yeah I haven't thank Why0Why yet. So here goes, Thanks Why0Why! Your guide made it easy for me.
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