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post #361 of 1457
9/16/05 at 10:54pm
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Glad to help and it is great to see all of these successes. We will have to modify our percentages soon
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post #362 of 1457
9/17/05 at 12:39pm
any suggestions whyowhy on how to get the pinmod to work for me
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post #363 of 1457
9/17/05 at 3:04pm
I did the pin mod on the Z70Va, works great!
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post #364 of 1457
9/18/05 at 8:07am
Is it pin modded M725 1.6 fsb400 (to 2.13) equal fast as M770 2.13 fsb533 ?

Other words.. what is the diffrence between them ?
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post #365 of 1457
9/18/05 at 1:19pm
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There is functionally no difference. Same voltage, cache and speed.
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post #366 of 1457
9/18/05 at 1:23pm
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wfarid: Looking at the specs, I would expect it to work. I would try the jumpers on the board without the pin first. The jumpers probably handle the same purpose as putting the pin in. If that doesn't work, then I would try just the pin without the jumpers.
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post #367 of 1457
9/18/05 at 2:47pm
i have to use the jumpers. the left pic is the jumper settings for a 533 dothan and the right is the 400fsb


533mhz set with pin mod ---> no post
533mhz set without pin mod -> no post
400mhz set with pin mod ---> post but recognizes it as a 1.6
400mhz set without pin mod->posts recognizing the chip as 1.6

the pins on the chip are perfect, no bent pins or anything. The msi s260/1012 uses the 915gm chipset BUT it uses ddr ram and not ddr2. It can handle a max speed of 400mhz ddr ram (up to 2 gigs of it though). Could that possibly pose a problem? I don't think it should, but who knows
LL
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post #368 of 1457
9/19/05 at 1:36pm
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Originally Posted by wfarid
The msi s260/1012 uses the 915gm chipset BUT it uses ddr ram and not ddr2. It can handle a max speed of 400mhz ddr ram (up to 2 gigs of it though). Could that possibly pose a problem? I don't think it should, but who knows
You answered your own question. You can't run 400 MHz RAM at 533 MHz. That is why your system won't post. You might be able to find DDR RAM rated for 533 MHz. I think that is your only hope for a sucessful pin mod.

That really stinks that they don't use DDR2.

Martian
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post #369 of 1457
9/19/05 at 3:30pm
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That may indeed be the problem. I didn't even think about that. Corsair does make some of its XMS memory line for laptops. There is a chance it would work, but it is probably not worth the money to try out unless you can return it.
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post #370 of 1457
9/20/05 at 12:06pm
Has anyone sucessfully pin modded a cpu to speeds faster than 2.26 ghz? I was thinking of getting the 2.0 ghz and than pin modding it to 2.4 or little higher, but if chances are that it won't work and might overheat I probaly am not going do it. I could also get a 1.8 or 1.7, but those will only safely oc to around 2.26 right?
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post #371 of 1457
9/20/05 at 1:28pm
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There hasn't been great success past the 1.7.
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post #372 of 1457
9/20/05 at 4:38pm
The msi uses dividers, so it can and does run at 533mhz fsb and thus 533mhzfsb chips. So if it can run 533mhz chips (i just bought a 760 {2.0, 533mhz fsb, 2megs cache}) then theoritically it should be able to run the pin modded 1.6... Here's an interesting faq for the notebook http://www.msicomputer.com/NB/pr/NBfaq.asp and here is the main page for the notebook http://www.msicomputer.com/NB/produc...?model=MS-1012

I suspecting that it might be the bios or something that checks the sspec of the cpu and corrolates it with the fsb... thus if the jumpers were set wrong it wouldn't post, a failsafe so users dont put on the wrong jumper setting and burn out their laptops...
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post #373 of 1457
9/21/05 at 10:35am
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That's interesting. I am not sure what the issue would be then, I would expect it to work with the pin and the jumpers set correctly then.
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post #374 of 1457
9/21/05 at 11:16am
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Originally Posted by AzN
Has anyone sucessfully pin modded a cpu to speeds faster than 2.26 ghz? I was thinking of getting the 2.0 ghz and than pin modding it to 2.4 or little higher, but if chances are that it won't work and might overheat I probaly am not going do it. I could also get a 1.8 or 1.7, but those will only safely oc to around 2.26 right?

AzN,
I'm not sure if you understood the pin mod overclocking method correctly. When you pin mod you will NOT be able to choose what speed to overclock the CPU to, like most desktop overclocking. You're basically changing the CPU's FSB from 100 to 133, period. Nothing in between. So if you have a 2.0 Ghz 400 FSB cpu (20x100), and pin mod it, you will get 2.66 Ghz (20x133). That's it, you can't modify the FSB to anything in between, or change the multiplier.
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post #375 of 1457
9/21/05 at 1:01pm

MSI pinmod issue?

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Originally Posted by wfarid
The msi uses dividers, so it can and does run at 533mhz fsb and thus 533mhzfsb chips. So if it can run 533mhz chips (i just bought a 760 {2.0, 533mhz fsb, 2megs cache}) then theoritically it should be able to run the pin modded 1.6... Here's an interesting faq for the notebook http://www.msicomputer.com/NB/pr/NBfaq.asp and here is the main page for the notebook http://www.msicomputer.com/NB/produc...?model=MS-1012

I suspecting that it might be the bios or something that checks the sspec of the cpu and corrolates it with the fsb... thus if the jumpers were set wrong it wouldn't post, a failsafe so users dont put on the wrong jumper setting and burn out their laptops...

I am having a similar problem with my new MSI, the MS-1032. I have a 1.6 Dothan that runs great in my 510C. I don't have jumpers (AFAIK) on the MS1032 since it only runs with 533 Mhz CPUs. I did the pinmod. The power light and fan come on. The HD icon stays lit. You can open the DVD and put in a DVD and it wil spin up, but nothing but a blank screen. I've every combo of the hardware I have and I still don't get the post screen, just what I stated above. I took everything out and retested in the M510C where they worked as usual. I'm starting to think you can't pinmod MSI laptops. I'm debating buying a 533Mhz, but I will hate myself if I buy that and it turns out the problem is not the CPU. I contacted MSI US tech support, but they weren't much help. I sent an email to support at Taiwan and we'll see what they say. I may give in if I can find a local shop selling at a decent price (Probably a 1.86Mhz ).

I just placed an order for a 750. It should get here tomorrow (crosses fingers). If it works, it may turn out that the pinmod does not work on the MS 1032 and I'll be bummed. If the problem is with the laptop, I'll eat the 15% restocking fee to rturn the 750 if that means I can do the pinmod. Given wfarid's issue, I'm not overly optimistic though.
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post #376 of 1457
9/21/05 at 5:16pm
Talked to MSI and this MS-1032 is now RMA'ed . Getting replacement tomorrow or the next day and I will start again. I cancelled my order for the 750. If the 400Mhz Dothan pin mod doesn't work in the new one, I'm going to be really bummed and I will be resubmitting my order for the 750 with a lighter wallet than I expected .
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post #377 of 1457
9/22/05 at 5:29pm
Hey there. Posted on here some time ago, and finally bought my 9300 laptop.

First order of business is to slap 2gb of ram in that beast, but then I'll be looking onward to the pin-mod situation.

Where is the best place to buy the older pentium ms, and how much do they cost on average?

Assuming I get a 1.6 with 2mb cache, what clock speed is safe to run it at? Like, totally safe I mean...2.13 should be easily attainable, yes?

Also, since I'm browsing the Egg's notebook ram atm, anyone got a recomendation on 1gb sticks? I like OCZ platinum for desktops, but does anyone else make really good notebook ram?

Lastly, is there any difference in thermal grease manufacturers? I might as well order some of that as well, while I'm at it.

How long do you think I should wait, to see if the bugs are worked out on MY 9300, before I pin-mod and kiss my 1 year warranty goodbye?
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post #378 of 1457
9/22/05 at 10:42pm
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Originally Posted by Martian
You answered your own question. You can't run 400 MHz RAM at 533 MHz. That is why your system won't post. You might be able to find DDR RAM rated for 533 MHz. I think that is your only hope for a sucessful pin mod.
right, you can't run 400mhz ram @ 533. But there have been plenty people who have a 533mhz fsb processor in the 1032 (with pc3200 aka ddr400) MSI says that it supports ddr333/400....winkx01 has a 533mhz processor and i can guarantee that the fastest his ram is running is 400mhz (because that is as fast as msi says it can go). If you can find faster ram than that it will probably only run at 400mhz anyways. long story short-it isn't the ram. and since the processor works in his other machine, the only thing i can think of is that the pin-mod doesn't work (although it should because it makes the motherboard think that it IS a 533mhz fsb processor). or the pin mod was done wrong. the only thing that bothers me is that he says it didn't even work without the pin mod. so heres hoping it was a dead notebook

unless the ram isn't pc333 or 400....then you need to get new (faster) ram.

did you wrap the wire around the processor, or put the wire into the sockets?
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post #379 of 1457
9/22/05 at 10:55pm
hi2u pre1014 of AT
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post #380 of 1457
9/23/05 at 2:10pm
Ruh roh. Is this a dead thread? I can post those questions in the main board I guess...
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