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post #41 of 1473
5/9/05 at 4:28pm
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I would really like to see some more info on the 1.8 mods too. What do we have, 2 confirmed so far? I don't think I would upgrade mine again. Unless of course, someone wanted to take my 1.6 off my hands But it runs nice at 2.13, so I am not complaining.
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post #42 of 1473
5/9/05 at 4:47pm
Come one stcky the threads mods!!!
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post #43 of 1473
5/12/05 at 2:33pm
wow howd you take such good closeups

i had so much trouble getting nonblurry closeups with my canon a75

thats why my guide doesnt have any actual pics

great job!
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post #44 of 1473
5/12/05 at 3:03pm
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Thanks. I use the macro zoom on my old Nikon CoolPix 2.1 megapixel. I got smart at the end and turned off the flash. If I had done it sooner, they would have looked better. But i wasn't about to take it back apart and redo them

I felt our guides were a good complement to each other. Yours has a lot of the good background/tech info and mine has the step by step.
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post #45 of 1473
5/12/05 at 3:23pm
my 1.6 ghz comes in tonight, was $140 off ebay including shipping hopefully I can get $100+ for my 533 fsb variant to make it a really affordable upgrade.......on a side note it seems like 800fsb should be a possibility because the 915 chipset can definitely handle it with the p4's, this would make a 533 fsb 1.6 ghz a 2.4 ghz 800 fsb chip

I just looked at the tech docs for the p4 socket 478, and the bsel1 and bsel0 settings don't correlate to the same speed:


bsel1 bsel0 p4 pM
L L reserved 133
L H 133 100
H L 200 reserved
H H reserved reserved

I guess this probably means the bios would have to be heavily modded....oh welll it was a thought
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post #46 of 1473
5/12/05 at 3:30pm
ive thought about that too. it should follow the same bsel scheme as for the normal i915

but the problem i can think of is bios support. if the bios wasnt written to understand the bsel pattern, i dont know what it would default to. wouldnt hurt to try it out though!
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post #47 of 1473
5/12/05 at 3:53pm
I edited my previous post, but the bsel scheme doesn't align with that for th p4 socket 478 processors. I am also under the impression now that the 9300 isn't going to handle anything much over 2.13 ghz because of its power supply. Note that a processor running at default voltage at various speeds still uses different amounts of watts, and stability seems to be going around 2.26 ghz. This is also apparent in the results.... people have been able to hit up to 2.13 ghz fairly consistently, but at 2.26 ghz and above it hasn't worked or has been unstable, and stability has changed based on whether the AC adaptor or battery is being used. For those with the XPS though I'm guessing 2.26 ghz should be easy and 2.4 ghz very possible. Another level of evidence for the 9300 maxing out at about 2.13 ghz is that you can only upgrade up to the 2 ghz processor at dell despite the 2.13 ghz being available from intel.
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post #48 of 1473
5/12/05 at 4:19pm
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Originally Posted by socrilles
Another level of evidence for the 9300 maxing out at about 2.13 ghz is that you can only upgrade up to the 2 ghz processor at dell despite the 2.13 ghz being available from intel.
This is only in the USA, here in the UK you can get 2.13Ghz in a 9300
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post #49 of 1473
5/12/05 at 4:29pm
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I think from reading some of the threads here, the lack of 2.13 in the US is a marketing thing.

I agree with statements on 2.13 in the 9300. Based on past experience with Intel scalability and overclocking for many years, I was thinking numbers roughly like this:

1.5 @ 2.0 100%
1.6 @ 2.13 95%
1.7 @ 2.26 85% (maybe close to 100% with volt mods)
1.8 @ 2.39 40% (probably 70-80% with volt mods)

Anything over that is probably hard to predict. I don't think we will have a big enough sample to ever know.
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post #50 of 1473
5/13/05 at 12:02pm
will heres another successful upgrade from 1.6 ghz to 2.13 thanx to every1 for posting on the mod, right now I'm priming stable at 1.212 V's.
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post #51 of 1473
5/13/05 at 1:25pm
I just have to say this again, sorry, but this is real cool stuff!
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post #52 of 1473
5/13/05 at 2:16pm
I SO got to do this one!! This is frickin' coollll!!!
Still got two questions:

1: When you put the 'jumper' in the 2 holes, do you have to break of two pins of the proc or just squeeze the pins in between the jumper?

2: What if the OC fails...is then the proc broken? Or could there be more damage...? So ok..the proc is broken, can live with that, but is the computer itself in danger too then?
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post #53 of 1473
5/13/05 at 2:26pm
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Originally Posted by Rogsjoerd
I SO got to do this one!! This is frickin' coollll!!!
Still got two questions:

1: When you put the 'jumper' in the 2 holes, do you have to break of two pins of the proc or just squeeze the pins in between the jumper?

2: What if the OC fails...is then the proc broken? Or could there be more damage...? So ok..the proc is broken, can live with that, but is the computer itself in danger too then?
guide doesnt mention anything about breaking pins

no damage done if it doesnt work. worst case just take out the wiremod and youre back to where you were before
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post #54 of 1473
5/13/05 at 2:53pm
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^^What Ziddey said. You can feel when you are putting the proc in that it is slightly tighter, but still no problem to put in. If it doesn't work for some reason, just remove. No damage to anything.
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post #55 of 1473
5/13/05 at 3:15pm
how did you guys find out about this NEAT trick...there is always somebody that finds out this stuff Ow and the wire/coin/screw reference is not good for me... u should have used a cd case or an AA battery. Something 'international' cause i dont know how big that coin is in America
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post #56 of 1473
5/13/05 at 4:06pm
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I wasn't the originator of the idea, I just took pictures You can look at the intel specs and see that it should work.

That screw is from the bottom of the 9300, so that is a universal reference. That's why I put it in there too
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post #57 of 1473
5/13/05 at 4:28pm
Something to add, first it is not a jumper your putting in, it is a very small piece of wire bent into a U shape, when putting it in be very careful to put the wire in the right holes, and to not drop wires in multiple attempts, ie don't leave little pieces of wire around the socket these have a high probability of shorting something and causing permanent damage. The biggest risk in doing the mod though is when putting the processor in the socket, the wire can pop out under the pressure instead of squishing to the side, this can then short multiple pins on the processor and kill the processor. All that being said it is a relatively safe procedure. The mods were first done with AMD processors a while ago, and I have done the wire mod many times, and did kill one processor in the way mentioned above. I think to avoid this it is best to smooth down/push down on the wire so that it is somewhat flush with the socket before the processor is put in, and to make sure you put the processor in straight down (no side to side movements). GL every1
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post #58 of 1473
5/13/05 at 5:33pm
I ran a AXP Barton at 15x multiplier in a KT266A board by using a pin jumper mod like this. That required 2 wires though so it was trickier.
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post #59 of 1473
5/13/05 at 7:05pm
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Socrilles is correct. I will edit the main post later. Be sure you are only using one strand of whatever type of wire you are using. I also pulled mine out a couple of times to shorten it, because I wanted it almost flush with the socket.
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post #60 of 1473
5/19/05 at 5:22am
Is this 1,6 processor also know as Banias??
Cause I found somebody who sells his: Pentium M 1,6gzh Banias processor.
I was wandering if I could use this one to pinmod the 9300. Anybody?
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