5660 HT / video chipset

I am investigating into the differences between sager 5660 and 5670, as I understand it, it really only has to to with cooling and the video chipset. So the sager 5660 should be HT compatible but maybe running hot. The following is a output from sisoft sandra for my sager 5660 / clevo 5600D, here in sweden branded as a Hyundai 5600D. Could somone please post the same data for a 5670? I'm most interested in the Chipset version and the bios version and date.

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SiSoftware Sandra

Video Adapter
Model : MOBILITY RADEON 9000
Chipset : Mobility Radeon 9000 AGP (0x4C66)
RAMDAC : Internal DAC(350MHz)
Video BIOS : BK8.0.0 VR000.000.008.002.002.000.001.001 f
VGA Compatible : No
Total Memory : 64MB (63MB Video) (56MB AGP)
Texture Memory : 119MB
Supports DIME Texturing : Yes

AGP Capabilities
Version : 2.00
Command Queue Length : 48
Fast-Writes Enabled : Yes
Side Band Enabled : Yes
Data Transfer Modes Support : 1x 2x 4x
Current Data Transfer Rate : 4x

Video BIOS
Date : 03/01/13
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one more thing

...I also would like to know is what bios version you have on your 5670's? Are they all the 1.03.03 HT aware or do someone have 1.02.00 or 1.02.07? Or did you have that one before you flashed it to HT aware? If thats the case I think there is a good chance to get the 5660 to be HT aware.

The statement "motherboard revision difference" seems vague to me, have you heard it from someone else or have you really checked it out?

The specs are exactly the same, except for the video board. How about this theory: The Clevo 5600D (Sager 5660) started from 1,7 celeron where cooling never was an issue. When the 3.06 HT processor appeared on the market the cooling system wasnt capable enough (they have to account for several hours of hardcore gaming, which I dont, I never have any problems with heat, work as a programmer, not really CPU intensive just brain intensive) So they upgraded the cooling system and they thougt they have to add some more ingredient, cooling isnt just a selling point. Adding more video memory was the easiest thing to do and now they could sell it as a now computer Clevo 5600DS (Sager 5670) and use the HT hype as a selling point.

Could this be wrong? Maybe, so I am trying to find out. The specs according to Clevo is like I wrote above exactly the same except for the video memory. I have read in previous postings that the differences is Power/Heat/Cooling and video memory.

I have a Clevo 5600D with 3.06 HT Processor, and dont have any heat problems, and since I believe in my theory above it feels like just bad luck to got stuck with the last in the line, fastest and best notebook that dont get HT support. Like to place 2nd with 1/100 of a second in a olympic games 100 m. I dont really need the extra CPU, I dont play games, but I'm curious of my nature and it would be nice to play with the HT technology.

I'm seriously trying to figure out if there are any real motherboard issues that makes the 5660 incompatible with HT, but I seriously doubt it. Its just the BIOS thats the missing link right now.

It would be great if someone could answer my real question instead of just vague claims, are they just rumours or selling strategy?

Excuse me for any grammer errors or if I sound rude, thats not my intention, english is not my native language

Thanks alot! As you can see its the same chipset. Now it would be interesting to know:

1. Video BIOS
Sager 5660
Version: BK8.0.0 VR000.000.008.002.002.000.001.001 f
Date : 03/01/13
Sager 5770
Version: ???
Date: ???

2. System BIOS
Sager 5660
Version: 1.02.00 or 1.02.07
Sager 5670
Version: ??? or 1.03.03

Could someone please fill in the blanks for me?

And for information for you all, I have already tried to flash the 1.03.03 HT BIOS in my 5660. I know, I like to play dangerous, I know what the consequences may be, you dont have to point that out, and I dont recommend anyone to do the same, dont blame me if you end up with a dead computer. Anyway, it went fine, the computer booted fine, anything seemed to work except for the screen which was a mess so I flashed it back, reverted to my old BIOS. Thats why I'm curious about the video bios in the 5670.

Thank you for the info!

I have found out that the video bios is included in the system bios romimage, with a binary editor I can see the version differences and the version info.

Did all 5670 ship with 1.03.03 HT? This bios was available as an update from clevo so I guess some of you must have had an earlier version prior to that update?

Thanks for the info. Its very much possible thats the case, but are you making an educated guess or do you have you anything reliable to support your statement?

To gsferrari:

Personally I dont refer to resellers as a reliable source, they have a very good reason for wanting people to buy new hardware. But, hey, I'm not trying to start an argument, we're on the same side here. And as you also said, it would be awesome to have the 5660 to be HT enabled.

I have already tried what you suggested, read my previous postings.

To bsmith:

I have been investigating into this for a couple of days now, the tools that are widely used is cbrom and modbin, but they are for award bios, not phoenix, even though its the same company nowadays the bioses are different. There virtually exists no tools like this for Phoenix bios. I'm at this very moment developing a set of tools to use. The Phoenix bios consist of LZ-compressed modules. The bioses (1.02.07 and 1.03.03 HT) consist of 20 parts, which 8 are same, 12 are different. The VGA module is different. So the idea is to insert the VGA bios from 1.02.07 into 1.03.03 and hopefully have a 1.03.03 for the 5660.

Hey, dont get overexcited here, I just stated what I believe is a reasonable attitude towards claims from resellers in general, just like I dont believe everything in the tabloids. I'm sure Adam is a great person and this forum is nice.

Understood.

My last question is still unanswered:
Did all 5670 ship with 1.03.03 HT? This bios was available as an update from clevo so I guess some of you must have had an earlier version prior to that update?

I think some of you would be interested in my results. I have managed to extract the Video bios from the 1.02.07 bios and inserted it into the 1.03.03 HT. I'm now writing this message on my 3.06 Mhz HT 5660 with a hybrid bios.

The Device Manager in Windows XP now shows two processors, but the sisoft sandra didnt make the expected jump in the cpu benchmark. I will do some more research to find out if I have really succeeded.