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post #301 of 348
10/18/03 at 6:25pm
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Originally posted by NightShade737
How much does the upgrade cost?

NS
It was $700 or so to get a 3.2ghz, matching 800mhz ram and the 9600, new motherboard, cooling and lower case. Not a bad deal really. I could sell this 3.06 and my two 512meg sticks and offset a bit of that cost. It's darn tempting, mostly for that video card, the DX9 compatablility will be sorely needed soon.
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post #302 of 348
10/18/03 at 7:25pm
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I wonder what would happen if you put a 3.0 or 3.2 GHz Pentium 4 with 800 Mhz FSB in a 5660? Would it operate at that speed assuming that you have the appropiate memory to handle it. Or would it still be 533 MHz FSB and downclocked because of a fixed multiplier? Does anyone knows for real? What are your guesses?
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post #303 of 348
10/18/03 at 9:07pm
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I was surfing the net and when I looked at sagers site I noticed a VERY interesting thing. The picture of the 5680 shows the left side, where the cooling vents are. On my computer I have vents going on the WHOLE left side, while Sagers 5680 only have quite small ones on the lower back on the left side! Ramses and wriggly, how are your ones?
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post #304 of 348
10/18/03 at 10:55pm
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laclasse, can you confirm that you did succeed controlling the fans? I havent succeeded yet, and it seems to me that the embedded controller handles this part all by its own, without interference from the OS. But I may be wrong of course, and I hope so.
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post #305 of 348
10/19/03 at 4:32am
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Originally posted by Henrik
I was surfing the net and when I looked at sagers site I noticed a VERY interesting thing. The picture of the 5680 shows the left side, where the cooling vents are. On my computer I have vents going on the WHOLE left side, while Sagers 5680 only have quite small ones on the lower back on the left side! Ramses and wriggly, how are your ones?

I have vents the whole way down the left side.
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post #306 of 348
10/19/03 at 6:22am
I think it would work at 400 Mhz because the pins of the P4 that establish the frequency.

As this motherboard does not support 800 Mhz, the second PIN surely will be ignored, and the processor will be detected as a 400 Mhz FSB, but with ypur modified BIOS it's possible that it works at 800 Mhz.


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Originally posted by Henrik
I wonder what would happen if you put a 3.0 or 3.2 GHz Pentium 4 with 800 Mhz FSB in a 5660? Would it operate at that speed assuming that you have the appropiate memory to handle it. Or would it still be 533 MHz FSB and downclocked because of a fixed multiplier? Does anyone knows for real? What are your guesses?
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post #307 of 348
10/19/03 at 6:24am
I'm looking for the alluminium.

Is it also called plate paper?

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Originally posted by Henrik
All aluminium foil is heat protective, I dont know about spain, but here in sweden we have it in every kitchen, to put on warm food to stay warm, see what I mean?
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post #308 of 348
10/19/03 at 6:46am
The mine as this

http://www.anandtech.com/mobile/showdoc.html?i=1765&p=3

http://www.anandtech.com/mobile/showdoc.html?i=1765&p=4


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Originally posted by Henrik
I was surfing the net and when I looked at sagers site I noticed a VERY interesting thing. The picture of the 5680 shows the left side, where the cooling vents are. On my computer I have vents going on the WHOLE left side, while Sagers 5680 only have quite small ones on the lower back on the left side! Ramses and wriggly, how are your ones?
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post #309 of 348
10/19/03 at 6:49am
I have noticed that when windows 2000 starts, the fans are always stopped 1 second if they are blowing.


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Originally posted by Henrik
laclasse, can you confirm that you did succeed controlling the fans? I havent succeeded yet, and it seems to me that the embedded controller handles this part all by its own, without interference from the OS. But I may be wrong of course, and I hope so.
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post #310 of 348
10/19/03 at 12:05pm
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Originally posted by Wriggly
I'm looking for the alluminium.

Is it also called plate paper?
I have no idea what else its called
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post #311 of 348
10/20/03 at 5:48pm
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I removed the heatsink today because I wanted to check my cpu what voltage rating it has. A 3.06 GHz Pentium 4 are rated at any of 1.475, 1.5, 1.525, 1.55 Volt. My cpu didnt had the volt marked on it which means that it is rated at all of the above settings (multi-rated), which probably is a good thing as far as I know at this point. I assume that it use the lowest 1.475, and it therefore not produces so much heat. Ramses, it would be interesting to know what rating you have?

I took my time to clean the heatsink and cpu properly, I removed the old thermal paste because it simply looked like a mess. I didnt have any thermal paste at home so I didnt apply any new but I have always thought it is kind of overrated thing anyway, I tightened the screws tidy and now my computer idles at 47 degrees. This is really good because this is exactly the temperature at which the fans stops. aaah... silence
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post #312 of 348
10/20/03 at 6:29pm
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Originally posted by Henrik
I removed the heatsink today because I wanted to check my cpu what voltage rating it has. A 3.06 GHz Pentium 4 are rated at any of 1.475, 1.5, 1.525, 1.55 Volt. My cpu didnt had the volt marked on it which means that it is rated at all of the above settings (multi-rated), which probably is a good thing as far as I know at this point. I assume that it use the lowest 1.475, and it therefore not produces so much heat. Ramses, it would be interesting to know what rating you have?

I took my time to clean the heatsink and cpu properly, I removed the old thermal paste because it simply looked like a mess. I didnt have any thermal paste at home so I didnt apply any new but I have always thought it is kind of overrated thing anyway, I tightened the screws tidy and now my computer idles at 47 degrees. This is really good because this is exactly the temperature at which the fans stops. aaah... silence
Did you just say that there is now no thermal paste between the processor and the heatsink? Realistically you should be getting very high temperatures as a processor makes VERY poor contact with a heatsink without any thermal compound due to the unevenness and general purely unflatness of the two combined.

This is highly suspicious...

NS
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post #313 of 348
10/20/03 at 6:44pm
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Yes, I also wrote that I believe thermal paste is somewhat overrated. You should know me by now, I always question things, you dont have to do things in a way because it always have been done that way. Also, if you use thermal paste and not apply it right, you probably end up with a worse cooling than if you had none applied.

Anyway, I works great for me, idleing makes the cpu go down to 47 degrees, then the fans stops. Of course the temp rises again when the fans are not spinning anymore, so they kick in at 57'ish again. under "normal" use for me, the temp is 50-55.
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post #314 of 348
10/20/03 at 7:01pm
It is overrated unless there are serious surface defects. If you'll hunt around for comparison test's, you'll see there is barely a degree or two difference between your bargin basement thermal paste's and the expensive arctic silver and other such things. I saw practicaly no difference really between the OEM tin foil, that plus some thermal compound, and just theremal compound. It just isnt as big a deal as conventional internet wisdom would lead one to believe as far as I've observed.
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post #315 of 348
10/20/03 at 7:27pm
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It just isnt as big a deal as conventional internet wisdom would lead one to believe as far as I've observed.
Ramses, you have a way with words I wish I had. This was my point exactly
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post #316 of 348
10/20/03 at 7:44pm

hen

is it possible to enable ht on a non ht p4 northwood on a board that supports ht? (my soon to be upgraded 5660>>5680)? Sorry if youve covered this, if you can, just point me to the thread.
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post #317 of 348
10/20/03 at 7:45pm
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Originally posted by Henrik
Ramses, you have a way with words I wish I had. This was my point exactly

Why thank you..

Trade you some writing ability for some programing skills..

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post #318 of 348
10/20/03 at 7:51pm
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Re: hen

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Originally posted by Icefluxx
is it possible to enable ht on a non ht p4 northwood on a board that supports ht? (my soon to be upgraded 5660>>5680)? Sorry if youve covered this, if you can, just point me to the thread.
No, that cant be done. The cpu core has the HT internals though, but it is disabled. its just like the multiplier is locked. Intel uses some technology like "blow internal fuses" in the cpu to "program" the chip to its capabilities and clockspeed.
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post #319 of 348
10/20/03 at 7:55pm
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I dont know if its just me, but I thought this was quite funny

EDIT: BTW, I dont recommend that forum
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post #320 of 348
10/21/03 at 12:30am
Alright, HT enabled by using the Repair option in XP.

I now have the same CPU usage you had for no good reason.
I'm reinstalling all the hotfixes and such now, we'll see.

The cooling fan is on high almost constantly.. I've not yet checked any temps.
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