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post #81 of 348
10/8/03 at 11:11am
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Originally posted by Henrik
You can disable autostart programs by holding down Control key or something similar if I remember correctly
That would work if it was a startup program, but WCPCREDIT uses something along the lines of a VXD (Virtual Device Driver) to load the information into the regiesters on boot well before Windows even loads its own GUI, so dissabling Autostart or even services wouldn't help. It's essentially like a normal driver being loaded.

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post #82 of 348
10/8/03 at 11:14am
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Didnt you test the stability of your settings before you made them autostart?
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post #83 of 348
10/8/03 at 11:18am
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Didnt you test the stability of your settings before you made them autostart?
Yeah, it was fine (at least it seemed so at the time) but for some reason it started acting up after a restart (restarted to get more accurate benchmarks).

Oh, you may want to have a look at this program. Very good for getting accurate benchmarks.

http://atomnet.co.uk/?p=programs&search=enditall

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post #84 of 348
10/8/03 at 11:21am
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Yeah, it was fine (at least it seemed so at the time) but for some reason it started acting up after a restart
Maybe you made a mistake when you configured WPCRSET so that it made other settings than what was tested? Its easy to do a mistake there. I use 2-2-2-5 all the time now without any problems.
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post #85 of 348
10/8/03 at 11:29am
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Originally posted by Henrik
Maybe you made a mistake when you configured WPCRSET so that it made other settings than what was tested? Its easy to do a mistake there. I use 2-2-2-5 all the time now without any problems.
I changed the D-RAM TTP too (Time Till Pre-Charge) as on my old machine I remeber changing it to 0 gave a big speed boost (which going from all the other things that really should have made a boost, probably wouldn't do anything at all).

It must be that.

Hmm........ if you could overclock the FSB then there would be nothing stopping you from clocking the FSB up to 166 (from 133) and if the RAM can't handle it, installing some PC2700.....

The processor should keep itself locked, do it shouldn't change its speed (give or take ~10mhz). On the other hand, some don't. In which case you will need to unlock the multiplier to keep the processor at a sane level.

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post #86 of 348
10/8/03 at 11:43am
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I changed the D-RAM TTP too (Time Till Pre-Charge) as on my old machine I remeber changing it to 0 gave a big speed boost (which going from all the other things that really should have made a boost, probably wouldn't do anything at all).
I experimented with this setting also, stock setting is 8 if I remember correctly, and either 0 or infinite did any improvement in performance.
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post #87 of 348
10/8/03 at 11:46am
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Originally posted by Henrik
I experimented with this setting also, stock setting is 8 if I remember correctly, and either 0 or infinite did any improvement in performance.
Mine was set to Infinite by default.

Did you just say 0 or Inf DO improve performance? Or did you ask if it improved performance? As I couldn't quite tell.

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post #88 of 348
10/8/03 at 11:50am
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Originally posted by NightShade737
Mine was set to Infinite by default.

Did you just say 0 or Inf DO improve performance? Or did you ask if it improved performance? As I couldn't quite tell.

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Sorry for my bad english, I meant to say that I tried every setting and it didnt do any increment in performance.

I probably has other memory than you, because its the reseller that put the memory in, when I look at my resellers homepage I see that they use Kingston
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post #89 of 348
10/8/03 at 11:55am
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Hmm........ if you could overclock the FSB then there would be nothing stopping you from clocking the FSB up to 166 (from 133) and if the RAM can't handle it, installing some PC2700.....
I wrote in a previous post:
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I have been investigating into changing the FSB and the PLL used is ICS 950201 (I opened the case and checked). This PLL can be clocked to 66, 100, 133 and 200 Mhz. The actual setting now is 133 (x4 Quad data rate = 533 Mhz). My processor multiplier is 23 (133*23 = 3.06GHz). I wonder what Tenchi would say if I clocked it at 200*33=4.6Ghz :-) This PLL isnt connected to the SMBus and can therefore not be changed by the usual OC tools. I'm quite certain I could develop a underclock tool, like running 1/2 speed. But I'm already lagging behind my daytime job because of my bios tinkering so maybe some time in the future.
The datasheet is here

I have concluded that the setting is hardwired because the Frequency Select settings in the control registers is read only as you can see in the data sheet
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post #90 of 348
10/8/03 at 12:35pm

hehehe

Henrik, thanks for the enlightenment...considering the first thing linux does when booting is to reassigned badly allocated bios settings. I am aware that bios is easily over ridden by the OS. I just want to investigate in why is the Phoenix bios on our lappies so damn CRIPPLED !!!

On another note, sensors of the motherboard:

-Linux is able to see and use the temperature sensor built into the processor ( by using APCI )
I am know that this does not work on windows ( maybe fixed now ?). Here it is ( in Celcius):
<laclasse@screamer:~$> cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THM0/temperature
temperature: 46 C

As well, throttling and sleep / suspend are avalaible through the same interface. Considering the proper Motherboard sensors, linux can see the SMBus on which they are connected, but unfortunately, the sensors aren't supported on i845 motherboard yet as their hardware specs haven't be disclose yet.
So no sensors yet...hopefully soon.

The only thing which has quizzed me is the fan control as it seems to be out of userland control.
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post #91 of 348
10/8/03 at 12:56pm
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laclasse, yes it would be really nice to monitor the processor internal temperature and that should be possible in windows too of course
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post #92 of 348
10/8/03 at 12:58pm
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Originally posted by Henrik
laclasse, yes it would be really nice to monitor the processor internal temperature and that should be possible in windows too of course
Try Motherboard Monitor, I havn't tried it myself but it should work.......

http://atomnet.co.uk/?p=programs&search=motherboard

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post #93 of 348
10/8/03 at 1:02pm

Can't try it !

i don't run windows apart virtually.....so hope you guys will try it !
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post #94 of 348
10/8/03 at 1:05pm
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I've done it before and hadnt any success, and there are several posts here on the forum about nonexisting temperature monitoring so I assume it doesnt work, but I'll give it another go
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post #95 of 348
10/8/03 at 1:07pm
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Havent you guys flashed the bios yet? Noone wants to be the first?
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post #96 of 348
10/8/03 at 1:09pm
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Havent you guys flashed the bios yet? Noone wants to be the first?
I will be home in about half an hour so I will be doing it then.......
I'll also play about with the temps in Linux if I can resize my Reiser partiton, problem is there is 8KB free, so the OS drive doesn't boot.

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post #97 of 348
10/8/03 at 1:11pm

Bios

Heyeye, i am at work right now !!!!!

Dunno how my boss will see me tweaking and rebooting a computer, especially when i am running VMware full screen there as it was the condition for me to work on my personnal machine ==> run windows.

I WILL BE THE FIRST to FALSH, unfortunately, i haven't got the 3.06 HT yet, will be there in a week, so until then flashing with a 2.4 NON HT is not that relevant he !

Will do tho ! ASAP.
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post #98 of 348
10/8/03 at 1:17pm
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what do you guys work with? I am a selfemployed programmer. My main development tools for the moment is Borland C++ Builder and MS SQL Server.
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post #99 of 348
10/8/03 at 1:56pm
Er........ I am home now, but cant find the link to the working BIOS file.......

I do general work with software in MS Visual Studio, PHP and MySQL work. Some gaming. Audio editing. General Linux exploration. And just other general things.

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post #100 of 348
10/8/03 at 2:49pm
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Its the same link as before, I updated the zipfile
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