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How can some claim to have no sparkles on their screen?

post #1 of 33
Thread Starter 
Let me get this straight. There are people in here who claims that they don't have sparkles in their screen after they had it replaced to either the same model (LG -->> LG or Samsung --->> Samsung) and to another model ("LG -->> Samsung or vice versa).

But how can this be true when those screens still have the anti-glare coating on them? Are you telling me that some screen have more anti-glare coating on it and some have less anti-glare coating on it?
post #2 of 33
Ive owned 4 laptops. 3 Sagers and one DELL. I'v also owned a 2001fp and currently own a 2005fpw. I know what sparkles are (2001fp had it) .

With that said, my XPS2 does NOT have sparkles. Feel free to come to my house and check for yourself.

EDIT: It's an LG
post #3 of 33
1 - the sparkle stuff started with a screen released about 10/04 or 11/04 on the 9200 model. The sparkle was so bad that the appearance was frosty, and produced a holographic effect that made me go crosseyed.

2 - Most monitors that I have seen have this type of effect. The new monitor - the LG - still has this effect and yes you can see it but you have to think about it. All these threads constantly do raise the issue to your consciousness and you will probably see sparkle on the LG screen.

3 - my Dell desktop LCD, my NEC LCD, and my Planar LCD all have the exact same effect. My treo 650 palm phone, for crying out loud, has the same effect. My Sony PSP does not have the effect.

4 - it is my conclusion that this coating on an LCD is an industry standard and is not obtrusive or annoying unless you obsess about it. On the other hand, the number of dead pixels on my screen (0) the very slight light leakage (a very small thin band) and the deepness and richness of colors more than make up for this exaggerated "sparkle" debate.
post #4 of 33
Dell should just introduce two models: One with an anti-glare coating for people that want optimum viewing angles and one that doesn't have it. I don't care about viewing angles at all, the only time I see my display is when I'm looking at it straight on. I'd much rather have a brighter screen and no sparkles/screen door effect.
post #5 of 33
I just got a 9300 with the Samsung screen no sparkles either looks amazing I love it.
post #6 of 33
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Originally Posted by MajestacaL
I just got a 9300 with the Samsung screen no sparkles either looks amazing I love it.
The Samsung won't have sparkles the same way the LG does. It has a screen door mesh effect - looks like a thin filter placed on top of the screen.
post #7 of 33
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Originally Posted by 5150 Joker
The Samsung won't have sparkles the same way the LG does. It has a screen door mesh effect - looks like a thin filter placed on top of the screen.
BAH! all u people that talk smack about the LG screens should come over to my house and see what real potential the LG screens have.

People that come over and see the LG (laptop) LCD next to the 2005fpw ALWAYS say the LG looks sooo much better than the 2005. No dead pixels, no light leakage ( i had some but rubbed it away) and DEF no sparkles.
post #8 of 33
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by 5150 Joker
The Samsung won't have sparkles the same way the LG does. It has a screen door mesh effect - looks like a thin filter placed on top of the screen.
Sounds like it is worse than the sparkles effect.
post #9 of 33
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Originally Posted by Vancomycin
Sounds like it is worse than the sparkles effect.
Depends on the person really. Some might prefer sparkles the LG way and others can tolerate the screen mesh effect. To me the screen mesh effect is easier on the eyes than the sharp sparkles.


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Originally Posted by Deutch420
BAH! all u people that talk smack about the LG screens should come over to my house and see what real potential the LG screens have.

People that come over and see the LG (laptop) LCD next to the 2005fpw ALWAYS say the LG looks sooo much better than the 2005. No dead pixels, no light leakage ( i had some but rubbed it away) and DEF no sparkles.
Deutch have you ever seen a Sony X-brite desktop display? It blows away the 2005fpw and our xps 2 lcd's aren't anywhere close. I know we can't expect something of that high quality but a screen compareable to a fujitsu would be nice.
post #10 of 33
Some people don't call what the screens do sparkles. They call it sheen or graininess, or they've never seen anything to compare it to so they have no frame of reference to compare and make the determination. Earlier on there were lots of people who said there was no sparkle/sheen but then after a short while of use they noticed it and didn't like it. So that comes down to opinion, experience, and perhaps varying levels of distinct observation. It also appeared that people with less than perfect eyesight did not observe the phenomenon.

Not sure how many but it seems like more than 1 person has recently gotten a replacement LG that had seen the sparkle before and now had an LG which they report has no sparkle. One of the theories of the cause of the sparkle on the new screens is that they just took old 9200 screens which had the sparkle caused by the antiglare coating and added the gloss coating and used these in the 9300s and XPSs. In which case it seems logical they would run out of these eventually and start using screens with only the gloss coating and not the additional antiglare coating. So this may be happening now.

The statement from Dell and others that the effect is standard on all screens is pure bullshit. I buy 1 or 2 new laptops every year. Never seen it before. When shopping I spend plenty of time looking at every laptop in several stores. Never seen it before. They may all have something you could call sparkle, but only the Dell 9300 has had anything that proves to reduce the quality and and viewability that could be called sparkle. My Treo 650 doesn't sparkle like it, my 30inch LCD HDTV doesn't sparkle like it, my 19inch LCD monitor doesn't sparkle like it, my Sony A170 17 inch gloss screen notebook doesn't sparkle like. My satin sheets sparkle a lot like it, though. Please folks, wait a while before posting to NBF after consuming crack.

Deutch, where is your house, I'd like to see your non-sparkly LG.
post #11 of 33
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Originally Posted by Vancomycin
Let me get this straight. There are people in here who claims that they don't have sparkles in their screen after they had it replaced to either the same model (LG -->> LG or Samsung --->> Samsung) and to another model ("LG -->> Samsung or vice versa).

But how can this be true when those screens still have the anti-glare coating on them? Are you telling me that some screen have more anti-glare coating on it and some have less anti-glare coating on it?
I can honestly say that I don't have a clue what "sparkles" are. My screen (LG) looks just fine and always has.
post #12 of 33
Thread Starter 
That is why it is so strange that some people say that there is no sparkle/graininess after the replacement. It does not make sense...unless Dell somehow does not replace the same LG/Samsung model.

My XPS2 will have its screen replaced by the Dell tech coming to my home this week. I will see if there is any difference.

If I still get a poor quality screen, I will return the XPS2 and get the Gateway m680. Yes...the quality of the screen is that important.
post #13 of 33
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Originally Posted by celly
I can honestly say that I don't have a clue what "sparkles" are. My screen (LG) looks just fine and always has.
Just look at a blank white screen long enough you should see what people are refering to, Don't think of it as actual sparkles I like to think of it as a shimmer effect, if that does not work change your backround color to yellow, or green and you should see it.

btw, it doesn't bother me at all
post #14 of 33
There is no shimmer, sparkle, frost, glaze, twinkle, shimmer, hologram, or any eyesore whatsoever on my xps w/ LG (elllll-jeeee) screen. I came close to giving about 2k for an i9200 in october but im glad i held out.
post #15 of 33
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Originally Posted by kwondo
There is no shimmer, sparkle, frost, glaze, twinkle, shimmer, hologram, or any eyesore whatsoever on my xps w/ LG (elllll-jeeee) screen.
Yeah, what he said.
My 9300 screen is fine.
post #16 of 33
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Originally Posted by Deutch420
BAH! all u people that talk smack about the LG screens should come over to my house and see what real potential the LG screens have.

People that come over and see the LG (laptop) LCD next to the 2005fpw ALWAYS say the LG looks sooo much better than the 2005. No dead pixels, no light leakage ( i had some but rubbed it away) and DEF no sparkles.
YEAH! That's what I'm talking about! I have an LG, and I went to Best Buy to compare my display with some of the other glossy displays out there.

On a few computers, the sparkle was VERY evident, on others, it was less pronounced. Some did not have it at all.

My XPS2 is of the latter.
post #17 of 33
Shiny screen here (LG I guess?) no sparkles at all, looks great.
post #18 of 33
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Originally Posted by kwondo
There is no shimmer, sparkle, frost, glaze, twinkle, shimmer, hologram, or any eyesore whatsoever on my xps w/ LG (elllll-jeeee) screen.
You said shimmer twice.
post #19 of 33
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Originally Posted by sonicwind
You said shimmer twice.
Once again we have the Samsungers, etc describing Sparkles, etc. Well, obviously ALOT of people love their LG screens.

What I don't get here is that I would probably know as much or more about the shimmer/sparkle effect as anyone here, PERIOD. I had a 9200 and it was A-W-F-U-L.

If you read some of the early threads about the 9300 LCD's I was pissed as anyone in anticipation of getting an LG like the one on my 9200. Perhaps it is quality control, but I sure as hell know I am not blind, and the LG I have is excellent.

What would settle this debate is if Dell would use the same parts for all of their laptops, because consistency even amongst Samsungs and LG's seems to be spotty at best...
post #20 of 33
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Originally Posted by sonicwind
You said shimmer twice.
Shimmer shimmer aaahh ya!
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