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post #21 of 39
5/10/05 at 12:05am
Glad you reached a decision

I bought from Intergrated Systems Techonologies, as did others on this forums, and their service was superb. Other vendors:

Geared2Play
ProPortable
RJTech
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post #22 of 39
5/10/05 at 2:38am
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I'll look into it in more details tomorrow, but so far from what I have seen discountnotebooks are the cheapest.
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post #23 of 39
5/10/05 at 1:57pm
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Just spoke on the phone with discountnotebooks, and they said that although they are chembook "fans" they lean toward Sager 4880 more..

Hmmm Here I go again
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post #24 of 39
5/10/05 at 3:01pm
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Originally Posted by B Nietsnie
Somone posted a link to some benchmarks that showed at 128MB of vram the performace gain basically stops. At 256MB the performance gain is negligible.
This is not true as such. It is just game-dependent. If the game loads up more than 128 MB of stuff to the video card then you will suffer big performance disadvantages.

However, most games automatically figure out how much video memory there is and keep the textures low enough. Games like Doom3 even make it exclicit in the READMEs and menus.

This translates to the card with the bigger memory not being faster, but having better quality for games that have the ability to download better textures. However, an underclocked 6600 will probably not be fast enough to munch all that stuff even if it had 256 MB. The X700 is not that much better.

The decision has been made, but anyway I would choose the NVidia-equipped notebook over an ATI-equipped one anytime.
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post #25 of 39
5/10/05 at 4:47pm
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I keep on hearing - "you will rarely notice any differences between this video card and ATI X700"

I am stock between z71v and sager 4880 ... I will probably order one of them today, but which?

I think I changed my mind from z71v to 4880. I will not show it to many people, so view angle is not so impotent to me. Power is.

Also wanted to double check, does 4880 has a lower quality ram or not?

Also taking prices from discount notebooks - sager with 2.0 cpu and 256 ram is very similar in price to z71v with 1.86 cpu and 128 vide...
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post #26 of 39
5/10/05 at 5:05pm
Well the video memory won't help you with that GPU really. It's a bit overkill for anything not in 6800 or x800 range (imho at least).

The RAM is better in the Asus, the screen is better, and you can get it with a faster CPU if you wanted to. Looks better too.
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post #27 of 39
5/10/05 at 5:36pm
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Sparkles on z71v do they appear on the white background?

Say Microsoft Word or PFD files which I will be using a lot. ?
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post #28 of 39
5/10/05 at 5:52pm
I had the same issue about the ram (the asus is faster) but I looked up some tests between DDR2 ram and DDR ram and it looks like that extra clock speed really did not do much to warrant the extra cost. Another way to look at it is: the x700 with its 128mb more ram is a better value than the faster system ram of the asus system.
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post #29 of 39
5/10/05 at 6:32pm
x700 with 256mb is definetly better than underclocked 6600go
the memory.. seriously.. will only be like 5% difference at most...
x700 will make up for that..
i assume the sager doesn't have sparkles.. which would be nice..
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post #30 of 39
5/10/05 at 6:48pm
I have Z71v and everything is cool except screen. It's not good. I compared to my friend's old Toshiba Tecra 4700.
Screen has light leakage ,one forum's member was fighting with seller to get money back and he has right it can be seen even on white, green, red and other colors. I have the same leakage and I hope that I will get used to it . The sparkles are also visible. It's like somebody put very thin women tights on screen. Like I said I hope that I will get used to it becouse I want to keep that machine.
BUT when I ask people to see on the screen they say that everything is ok until I tell them about sparkles, after that they see it.
If You can, first go and look on it. If anyone wants to look on it, I can show mine. I live in Warsaw, Poland.

Best regards,

Zmrol
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post #31 of 39
5/10/05 at 8:32pm
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I almost 100% went for z71v but then I keep on sseing these screen complaints.

I will read a lot on it, so pdf on white background... So z71v or 4880 ...

It is sparkles vs view angle...

RAM vs VIDEO Ram.....


Which one... which one....

Damn it, this is the first time it is taking me forever to make a decision. This Sux

All People if you were to buy either 4880 or z71v which one would you go for now? (That includes those who already have z71v, pretend you dont )
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post #32 of 39
5/10/05 at 8:35pm
It would be a very hard choice. I'm thinking the Asus, because I don't need tons of video power, and would want something a little cooler.
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post #33 of 39
5/10/05 at 10:02pm
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There is a very good deal from discountnotebooks right now:

1,780.00$

Sager NP4880 -V1

Instant $150 Rebate - Limited Time Promotion - Already applied to price
15.1" TFT SXGA+ (1400 x 1050) Active Matrix Display
2.0 Intel Pentium M (760) Processor (2 MB Cache, Sonoma)
256 MB GDDR3 ATi MOBILITY™ RADEON® X700 / 16x PCI-Express Graphics
1024MB DDR SDRAM (PC-2700) -1 DIMM
Integrated Digital Video Camera (640x480 resolution)
Factory 1-yr parts & labor warranty w/ lifetime techincal support


Comparing to z71v

$1,710.00

Chembook 2371v - V

15.4" WSXGA (1680x1050) Wide -Screen Active Matrix Display
1.86 GHz Intel Pentium-M (750) Processor (Sonoma / 2 MB L2 Cache / 533 FSB)
128 MB Dedicated DDR2 - Nvidia 6600 PCI-Express Video Card
1 GB DDR2 (533 MHz) Memory (1 GB x 1)
S-video out, 5 USB (2.0), 1 PCMCIA, IR, IEEE Firewire
2 yr ChemUSA warranty w/ 1-way paid shipping (lifetime tech support)

Note - 60 GB Hard Drive (7200 RPM) back order until 5/16 for z71v

So,,,, maybe I'll go for Sager.. But only 1 year warrenty need to buy 2 or 1 more year?

Suggestions?
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post #34 of 39
5/10/05 at 10:26pm
Well I am an owner of the 4880, and I have absolutly nothing against the angles... this thing is very fast.

I don't regret my choice
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post #35 of 39
5/11/05 at 12:59pm
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Ok, within the next few hours, I'll order z71v from discount notebooks.

Which HD ?

60GB 7200 or 80GB SATA 5400 ???
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post #36 of 39
5/11/05 at 1:55pm
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Any help?
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post #37 of 39
5/11/05 at 4:43pm
I had the same dilemma, was at first getting the 80gb 5400 but then thought to myself ‘Hey it’s my first laptop’ so I wanted to make the notebook as fast as possible and opted for the 60gb 7200rpm. If you get the 7200 it will give you a slight boost in load times which will show while loading up games and programs
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post #38 of 39
5/11/05 at 5:17pm
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60 Gb 7200 is back ordered in dicsount laptops, So I went with 80 Sata.

80 is what I have on my desktop right now and that is what I need ! I am used to it, even though it is 7200 and z71v will be with 5200 SATA still it is almost as fast as 60 7200

Cool Beings !
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post #39 of 39
5/11/05 at 8:35pm
Or you can just wait for Seagate to release the 100GB 7200RPM HDDs
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