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post #41 of 217
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vancomycin
How long will that going to take for you to get your replacement? I ordered mine on 05/07/2005 and still have not got any new email update yet.

Did they say you will get a replacement after May 7? If they did, then I would probably get the laptop before you get your replacement.
Don't know yet. I'm suppose to be receiving my new order information by days end.
post #42 of 217
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Originally Posted by czm2000

A possible solution is FanGUI. I have not taken the time to try it, but if I do I will give you an update. If you are super sensative to fans though, a desktop type replacement may not be the right choice. I don't know how sensative to these you are. I just got my new Canon SD500 and I wanted to test out the video. If I get the chance maybe I'll take some video/aduio of it and post it.
That would be great if FanGUI would work with the m680. I thought that it only work on the inspiron 9300/XPS2....I guess I am wrong.

When I had my XPS2, I did install the IFanGUI and use it constantly. What is good is that you can tell it to turn the lap top to "low" "medium" "fast" or "off" speed according to the temperature. But if you turn it to off, the temperature will surely rise and the fan will be on anyway.

If you can create a video/audio file of the fan noise that would be very helpful
post #43 of 217
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vancomycin
That would be great if FanGUI would work with the m680. I thought that it only work on the inspiron 9300/XPS2....I guess I am wrong.

When I had my XPS2, I did install the IFanGUI and use it constantly. What is good is that you can tell it to turn the lap top to "low" "medium" "fast" or "off" speed according to the temperature. But if you turn it to off, the temperature will surely rise and the fan will be on anyway.

If you can create a video/audio file of the fan noise that would be very helpful
I never thought about that. Maybe you can't use FanGUI with the M680. We'll find out soon enough.

Hopefully I'll get the chance to video record that for you. I just don't know when. I was able to find an hour to run the bench test you asked for earlier than the weekend, so who know. I am pretty busy. I'll do my best.
post #44 of 217
FanGUI does not work with the m680. Neither do any of the other fan control programs I have tried so far.

I am very sensitive to fan noise and the m680 does not bother me at all. That's not to say I wouldn't like to have control over it.
post #45 of 217
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Originally Posted by flashram
FanGUI does not work with the m680. Neither do any of the other fan control programs I have tried so far.

I am very sensitive to fan noise and the m680 does not bother me at all. That's not to say I wouldn't like to have control over it.
speedfan will work but u need to know the motherboard infromariton and stuff like that.
post #46 of 217
One more question

Storage Space vs. Performance

Is it worth it to get the 60gb 7200rpm? Is there really that big of a speed difference? And also, if the HD runs faster, then potentially wouldn't the batter life be a bit less? I am not sure whether to get the 80gb 5400rpm or the 60gb 7200 rpm. I do play alot of online games that are installed completely on the Hardrive, but I dont think it matters that much in terms of performance.

Any help on answering this would be much appreciated. Thanks!
post #47 of 217
The Dell Inspiron XPS2 is already offering buyer the choice of 80 gig 7200 RPM and 100 gig 7200 RPM. This happened 1 or 2 days ago.

So what this mean is that vendors like newegg.com may have these 2 types of fast HD out sometime in the near future.
So if the m680 is able to allow you to replace the HD, you may want to get the worst and cheapest HD now and then replace it with the 80 gig 7200 RPM or the 100 gig 7200 RPM.
post #48 of 217
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Linari
One more question

Storage Space vs. Performance

Is it worth it to get the 60gb 7200rpm? Is there really that big of a speed difference? And also, if the HD runs faster, then potentially wouldn't the batter life be a bit less? I am not sure whether to get the 80gb 5400rpm or the 60gb 7200 rpm. I do play alot of online games that are installed completely on the Hardrive, but I dont think it matters that much in terms of performance.

Any help on answering this would be much appreciated. Thanks!
There is a noticable increase in performance but it's not monumental. It's most noticable when you are plaing a game. Less noticable when working with files (unless you're working with extremely large files).

The added battery consumption of a 7200 RPM drive over a 5400 RPM drive is minimal. I believe somewhere in the neighborhood of around 5 minutes, 10 tops. TimsHardware.com reviewed the diffrence. It was very telling because the thought had always been that you would suck down a lot more juice on a 7200 RPM drive. It turns out not be true.

Bottom line, it wouldn't be a sin to go with a 5400 RPM drive like going with a 4200 RPM drive would be. But if you have the money, and don't mind spending it, go with the 7200.

Vancomycin hit the nail on the head though, especially if you need more space. Gateway is only offering the 7200 in the 60Gig. It will only be a matter of time before the 80 and 100 7200 RPM drives are available on various websites, and I would guess not too long after that, the prices will start to drop.
post #49 of 217
czm2000,

How useful is the port replicator?

With the port replicator, do you use your laptop as a desktop?

What I mean is, can you hook your laptop to an external monitor and have the lid of the laptop closed and turn on the computer using the power button on the port replicator? Is there a power button on the port replicator? (it look it has, but I am not sure)
Can you turn on the computer while the laptop lid is closed?...by pushing on the power button on the port replicator.

So in summary, does the port replicator allow your laptop to be converted to a mini tower?
post #50 of 217
Thread Starter 
I actually have for the most part just used an additional monitor and extended my desktop. At least for the last few years. Look: http://designingcyberspace.com/m680/...deskSetupA.jpg . The monitor to the left uses a separate computer, the M680XL is int eh middle (of coarse) and the additional monitor that is extended from the M680 is to the right of it. The port replicator has proven to be quite useful (I take it you read my mini review of it). You can turn the computer on with out opening the lid and use it as a typical PC. Of coarse you would need a monitor and keyboard and mouse.

To asnwer a previous question you aksed in a previous post, my arrival date is May 26th although that will probably change since the order was entered incorrectly. They have the replacement with a 1.86 P-M instead of my original 2.0 P-M. I email them and they are going to fix it. I wish they would just shoot me a couple hundred dollars. The chip is not that noticable. But they want to replace it. It's costing them way more to in their word "make it right" when I would be happy with a little credit. I will tell you this, if there is any kind of fan issue or dead pixel I'm going to play Dr. and swap the backs and just send them the replacement back with the other lid backing. This M680 is perfect in every other way so I don't want to lose it.
post #51 of 217
Do you know if you can put in a mini pci card inside the m680?

For instance:

Go to this link:
http://www.lifeview.com.tw/html/prod...t_duo_mini.htm

I was wondering if you can insert this mini pci card inside the m680 to allow TV watching on it.

post #52 of 217
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vancomycin
Do you know if you can put in a mini pci card inside the m680?

For instance:

Go to this link:
http://www.lifeview.com.tw/html/prod...t_duo_mini.htm

I was wondering if you can insert this mini pci card inside the m680 to allow TV watching on it.

I don't beleive so. I don't think it was built with that in mind. I wish it did. I beleive it might have a mini PC slot for the wireless card.
post #53 of 217
Awww, that is too bad.

If only it has a pci card slot, we could have put in the bluetooth.

I cannot believe gateway does not offer integrated bluetooth for the m680. That is ridiculous.
I rather have the bluetooth than the 10-key numeric pad keyboard....but that is just me.
post #54 of 217
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vancomycin
Awww, that is too bad.

If only it has a pci card slot, we could have put in the bluetooth.

I cannot believe gateway does not offer integrated bluetooth for the m680. That is ridiculous.
I rather have the bluetooth than the 10-key numeric pad keyboard....but that is just me.
I really wanted the bluetooth for my mouse and to sync with my Blackberry 7520. I'm slowly getting over it because I am so happy with this notebook. I figure I can add bluetooth via the SD slot or the PCMCIA slot or just buy a USB bluetooth adapter (I really don't want anything sticking out though, or I would have gotten the 12 Cell battery.) I guess you can't win them all. I want to see if I can get my hands on the x700 256 Pro video card. It should fit (unlike the x800) and it would just about double the 3DMark2005 bench mark as I understand it.
post #55 of 217
Quote:
Originally Posted by czm2000
I want to see if I can get my hands on the x700 256 Pro video card. It should fit (unlike the x800) and it would just about double the 3DMark2005 bench mark as I understand it.
If you can get it and it works with the m680, then that would be great and I may follow your footsteps and do the same.

However, wouldn't getting such a video card increase heat production and thus lower battery life and increase fan noise?

Oh, and where would you get it? Can you provide a URL link so I can check it out?
post #56 of 217
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vancomycin
If you can get it and it works with the m680, then that would be great and I may follow your footsteps and do the same.

However, wouldn't getting such a video card increase heat production and thus lower battery life and increase fan noise?

Oh, and where would you get it? Can you provide a URL link so I can check it out?
Definitely the trade off would be increase heat and power consumption. I havent' quite decided if it would be worth it and probably won't make that decision until I find it. This brings me to the dilema. Finding it. I can't. At least not yet. I've search and can't find them anywhere. It's offered in the Sager NP4880 but that's as close as I have gotten to finding one other than the fact that it's listed on ATI's website. The other challenge will be making sure that the M680XL is upgradeable. I think as time goes on it will be very telling. Either it will be possible or it won't. If anyone get's any leads posting them would be great. I of course will do the same.
post #57 of 217
Well, Hitachi has come out with the HD of 100 gig with 7200 rpm. Maybe this is a safer bet on upgradability. :-)
post #58 of 217
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vancomycin
Well, Hitachi has come out with the HD of 100 gig with 7200 rpm. Maybe this is a safer bet on upgradability. :-)
Absolutely.
post #59 of 217
Quote:
Originally Posted by czm2000
Definitely the trade off would be increase heat and power consumption. I havent' quite decided if it would be worth it and probably won't make that decision until I find it. This brings me to the dilema. Finding it. I can't. At least not yet. I've search and can't find them anywhere. It's offered in the Sager NP4880 but that's as close as I have gotten to finding one other than the fact that it's listed on ATI's website. The other challenge will be making sure that the M680XL is upgradeable. I think as time goes on it will be very telling. Either it will be possible or it won't. If anyone get's any leads posting them would be great. I of course will do the same.
dosent gateway sotter there parts so you can upgrade it? I mean i have heard this is dont know if this is a rumor ir not but people have told me this...anyways there is no way i am even touching another video card unless its 2 the perfromance and very cool and quiet so far im very happy with the card its plays doom 3 high with everything max at 1280x1200 i get avg 35-45 fps a sec thats very good considering this is a notebook and not the 2 inch type did i mention the noisy fans
post #60 of 217
czm2000, thanks for the review. First rate. It's a benchmark of a notebook review.
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