Sager 9880 (NP9880) release - Page 8

the wsxga is NOT part of the promotion package.

Luke,

correct me if i am wrong but as i understand it you will get the $500.00 off discount even if you order the wsxga+ screen but you will have to order before May 31st and your system will not ship untill the first week of June. We are getting a deal on the WUXGA screen during the promotin is why the WSXGA+ costs more.

Since the new TV Tuner REQUIRES MCE2005 to function could you guys bring back the old TV Tuner as another option for us not wanting to use MCE2005?

AND

Will Pc-Torque offer a WUXGA GLOSSY SCREEN?

You know what I hate asking questions because being in the military it's one thing to ask a small amount of questions and figuring the wrest on your own and there are the people who ask you to do something and ask every step how to get it down w/o trying to figure it out on there own. However. I have a few questions of my own that maybe Luke or someone else can assist me with. 1

1) I just spoke to look on the phone not to long about about my order update. Well at the time wuxga wasn't on the site is it to late to call in the next day to update it?

2) Is it even a noticeable difference between the 2. Out Firewall operators have blocked allot of sites and I can't pull the info off the website's cause it's blocked and higher headquarters will not do it because there lazy.

3) windows xp vs WMCE2005. If I can remember all wmce2005 is just for media center stuff. Will the new tv tuner I ordered with the 8980 work in xp pro?

I don’t want to sound like im lazy or a noob. However in this case I can not do the research on the web because all the websites I try to pull the info off is blocked. Funny how that 80% of the websites I tried to pull down was blocked because it was deemed as hacking or games. Which is retarded anyways enough ranting about the Marine Corps. Can any one help =)

When will people shut the _____ up about "Sparkle" in screens. It just doesn't do that! Sure, if you pull up one specific color and stare at one pixel for 2 minutes you might see a slight shift in the pixel. BUT IT'S NOT A SPARKLE!!! That is nothing but B.S. I personally have ordered, delivered and used 6 Dell 17" 19x12 screens in the last month. THEY DON'T HAVE SPARKLE!

I'd take these screens any day to the glossy anyway, because I'd prefer to see my work, not my face when I'm using a computer. Truthfully, I'm not that pretty. Glossy screens are nasty for your eyes too. The non-glossy screens only have a slight matting to keep the reflections from occuring. Under the right conditions, and if examined really really closely, you might detect a shifting of the image on a pixel by pixel basis. NO SPARKLE! In everyday use, you won't see it. I have 20/20 vision too, so don't give me any bull about that. If you see sparkle, maybe you should have your eyes checked for glaucoma.

THERE IS NO SPARKLE.

Hey Scott,

Wish i had your accomodating eyes. My supervisor received one the the Dell 9200's, and after using it for all of about 5 minutes, I was on the phone to Dell to try to get it returned. The screen is totally unusable and is, by far and away, the worst screen I have ever seen. You may be correct - the problem might not be sparkle - but it sucks no matter what you call it.

Hey scott, i have the 9860 with the glossy screen and i can tell you that i couldn't go back to a non glossy. once you have one of these, you dont want to goback. of course it's personal taste.

when exactly will you be calling people with pending orders to adjust their specs? I got a confirmation email and replied with the 9880 specs I wanted but haven't heard back.

I am still waiting.

gs

i dont know, but hypersonic now has a WUXGA glossy screen listed. if it is a samsung glossy wuxga screen....im getting it.

hmm is it just me or was the problems reported with the dell (be they true or not) based on the Philips-LG model and not the samsung? thats what seems to have been reported, that dell used 2 lcd types one from samsung and one from Philips-LG and that the LG's had issues. And since sager is samsung only (i think) im guessing there wont be any issue.
my .02

So qoute on Qoute, no matter WHAT screen you pick aslong as you order by the 31st, you get the 500$ insta rebate?

also will the review be up before may 31st you think luke?

Ive had a Dell XPS Gen 2 with a 17" WUXGA glossy screen from Samsung, and it is quite gorgeous. Mind you, I also have closely investigated the WSXGA screen from a clevo, and although by a tiny margin, the WSXGA screen was slightly better concerning uniformity.

If I were to choose, I'd gladly pay 200$ more for the WUXGA samsung glossy screen instead of the WSXGA glossy screen because of the resolution increase. I do CAD, so its very important.
If the glossy WUXGA was a LG-samsung screem as I have witnessed as well, I wouldnt even want to buy the whole machine. Those screens are not funny.

I just bought a Cyber-System P17 (9860) but the webcame was busted, the serivce of these people was atrocious, so I sent it back to get a PC torque one instead.... I was about to order a 9860/9880, but Since Sager has decided to be a tad irrational about this (no glossy WUXGA option, a silly TV tuner for a silly OS, and no possibility to not have that excessively expensive 6800 Ultra), I think Ill put my money elsewhere.

For anyone's information, the following resellers have a WUXGA GLOSSY option:
Xtreme notebooks
Xotic PC
Hypersonic
Voodoo PC

Xtreme Notebooks also offers the former TV tuner, for less than the new tuner.
Unforntunately they do not ship internationally. They're also religious fanatics.

COME ON SAGER! GIVE US A WUXGA GLOSSY OPTION AND THE FORMER TV TUNER OPTION!

I understand the request for Glossy WUXGA.

BUT why does everyone want the old Tuner? just because it was lower cost?

MCE + Hardware MPEG2 encoding is so much better it's worth the money.

in fact look at the price MCE OS is lower then XP PRO, when MCE = PRO.

if you do some research MCE = XP PRO with a extra enchanced version of Media Player that is a full screen interface with, TV Viewing, Online TV Program Guide, Recording with the ONLINE TV Program Guide like a TIVO, Pause Live TV. i don't think the old tuner and old tuner included program can do these.

Plus you also get DVD viewing in the same interface that is much more user friendly, Picture Slide show with Music, and many other.

Close this MCE Interface everything functions exactly like XP PRO. so unless you really really don't want to buy XP PRO because you already have a copie or is willing to pay the extra bucks for XP pro and not MCE i see no reason to skip out on MCE.

the external IR box thing is to control your cable box and other setop box devices just don't hook it up if you don't want to use it or ask if they can sell you the tuner without the remote and IR box if you just going to be infront of the laptop most of time.

but MCE still would be much better then the old Tuner and Software IMO if you going to spend 2k+ for a DTR laptop why cut back on the few bucks on a OS that is just as good as XP Pro with enchanced function and few on the Tuner. it's only what less then 200 more?

i think you need to understand that not everybody wants to pay 130$ for a tv tuner when you can get the old one that does the same thing and cost 52$. sorry but for no everybody wants mce 2005 even if it is win xp pro based. so yes i agree that sager should offer both version.

Depends on how everyones Point of View.

My is that i'll never buy home so i would get Pro. now the price differences between MCE and Pro is 20.

the old Tuner was 52 and new is 130.

so we have 50 + 20 - 130 = 60

i see New Egg and other sells the remote alone for 30 to 45.

now if we can opt out on the remote for lets say 20 to 30.

we will have 50 + 20 + 20 - 130 = 40.

so i'm only paying 60 (40 is we can opt out on the remote) extra for a much cleaner interface and more functions TV Tuner?

i belive in the pass most did not like the old tuner bundle program and end up buying 3rd party? and if we look at other 3rd parties TV programs they all cost range from 49 to 89.

yes i agreed Sager should give the option of the older tuner to anyone that doesn't want MCE. But i also wish that anyone that wish to have the older tuner just send email to pctorque or sager to ask for it. not asking for it here and confuse anyone else down playing how MCE is not a better option when many that are reading some of these post one would think MCE isn't right for them.

Just spoke to Sager directly. No glossy screen available in 1920 x 1200.

John