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post #21 of 31
5/20/05 at 9:07am
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Originally Posted by Michel Merlin
BTW, will the suggestion I made - kindly, with great care, and without implyings - to you (in Thanks for thumbnail links; remove large pics please) become "old news" as well, instead of being simply used and thanked?
It might.
If you posted on this forum out of genuine desire to help, you'll live with flames, some bad PMs (private messages), being ignored, etc.
If you posted to boost your ego (i.e. expected being praised and thanked), look for a different place to get that.

On topic. It is indeed recommended to use LCD at its native resolution whenever possible. Exceptions are full-screen games and movies.
Acer TM810x also has technology (GridVista) that allows to emulate multiple monitors on a single LCD: each monitor will not have "native" resolution (or rather size) of LCD. Another workaround is when you have virtual desktop that is larger than LCD (it may have a weird resolution too) and is scrollable, that way you may even run widescreen on a 4:3 LCD. Don't remember if ATI Hydravision does that or was it some other software.
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post #22 of 31
5/20/05 at 10:06am

Please stop pollution - try to bring something useful

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Originally Posted by DarthAcer
If you posted to boost your ego (i.e. expected being praised and thanked)
Don't lend your own expectations to others, and you won't have problems. Above all, apply your own comment (try more to help than to agress) and everything will go smooth - at least with regular people as I am, as you certainly know. You certainly would never have posted that phrase (that you obviously never believed) if you had just tried to help and not to hurt, would you? I can only understand your post as an attempt to aggress and bloat more that topic with useless volume, since you don't bring anything useful unknown so far:
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Originally Posted by DarthAcer
It is indeed recommended to use LCD at its native resolution whenever possible. Exceptions are full-screen games and movies.
Thanks for recalling my recommendation. On games and movies I recommend to readers the more accurate and precise original explanation I bothered to write and post on previous page (Thu 19 May 2005 10:51:10 +0200, 3rd §).
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Originally Posted by DarthAcer
Acer TM810x also has technology (GridVista) ...
...Don't remember if ATI Hydravision...
GridVista is a reason why I am browsing the ACER Forum for my coming Notebook buy (and why I didn't use it yet). I did use Hydravision™ but in early times when it needed too much improvement. Anyway, GridVista and Hydravision are (for that matter) just more ways of adjusting resolution (or rescaling an image or part), hence call the same answer I gave to rescaling, above Thu 19 May 2005 14:35:45 +0200, §3.

Paris, Fri 20 May 2005 15:06:45 +0200
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post #23 of 31
5/20/05 at 3:03pm
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Originally Posted by Michel Merlin
Anyway, GridVista and Hydravision are (for that matter) just more ways of adjusting resolution (or rescaling an image or part), hence call the same answer I gave to rescaling, above Thu 19 May 2005 14:35:45 +0200, §3.
I didn't think that Gridvista adjusted resolution- it just manages window sizes and locations. Unless it has a whole lot of features I have played around with yet, I haven't seen anything about resolution.

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Originally Posted by Michel Merlin
When in SXGA+ (1400x1050, ratio 4/3), have you 2 vertical black lanes right and left of the screen? Are alphabetical characters crisp as well, or only "Things"?
Is that kind of letterboxing actually possible? Cause y'know it would really be great if my computer would just put black bars on the sides of the screen instead of stretching and distorting the whole screen when a 16:10 ratio screen resolution isnt available. Maybe there is some utility for that...?
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post #24 of 31
5/20/05 at 3:22pm
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Originally Posted by ThousandKnives
Is that kind of letterboxing actually possible? Cause y'know it would really be great if my computer would just put black bars on the sides of the screen instead of stretching and distorting the whole screen when a 16:10 ratio screen resolution isnt available. Maybe there is some utility for that...?
That's easy to do on the 8100. Open screen properties, click "Advanced", click "Displays", click "Panel" and then uncheck "Scale image" or you can select "Expand while maintaining aspect ratio"
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post #25 of 31
5/20/05 at 3:37pm
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Originally Posted by ThousandKnives
I didn't think that Gridvista adjusted resolution- it just manages window sizes and locations.
I think you are right. Hence GridVista won't do any blurring (or any change to it).
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Originally Posted by ThousandKnives
...it would really be great if my computer would just put black bars on the sides of the screen instead of stretching and distorting the whole screen...
I just asked Fuderson (Thu 19 May 2005 10:51:10 +0200 §1) to help make sure and clear what he was seeing ans requesting. I would know if it's the case, but Fuderson seems gone (has posted 1 post ever).

Paris, Fri 20 May 2005 20:37:10 +0200 edited (link) 20:42:00
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post #26 of 31
5/20/05 at 8:23pm
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Originally Posted by Michel Merlin
I just asked Fuderson (Thu 19 May 2005 10:51:10 +0200 §1) to help make sure and clear what he was seeing ans requesting. I would know if it's the case, but Fuderson seems gone (has posted 1 post ever).

Paris, Fri 20 May 2005 20:37:10 +0200 edited (link) 20:42:00
Probably he's still reading your... posts!
I won't expect him to be back any time soon.
And if he does, he will be afraid to post again

Look what we did to him, he's probably hiding in some corner, shaking and promising himself not to touch an LCD ever again ...

_EnF_
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post #27 of 31
5/20/05 at 8:56pm
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Originally Posted by Wiz33
That's easy to do on the 8100. Open screen properties, click "Advanced", click "Displays", click "Panel" and then uncheck "Scale image" or you can select "Expand while maintaining aspect ratio"
Hey wow, I never noticed that little option before. Very cool. Thanks man.
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post #28 of 31
5/20/05 at 9:27pm
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Originally Posted by ThousandKnives
Hey wow, I never noticed that little option before. Very cool. Thanks man.
Alternatively, for widescreen gaming, check this out:
http://www.tigerdave.com/htpc_wsg_menu.htm
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post #29 of 31
5/21/05 at 9:14pm

Ms

I've been reading the posts on the ratios above, as I am new to the LCD screen too. I also just bought Acer 8100 at the high resolution. I didn't realize I would not be able to read the text. It is so small, and it seems when I change the DPI or font size in Windows it only affects some of the text, and other areas are still small. This is a great laptop, and I did want a high-res notebook thinking it would be real crisp, which it is. It's just so small I can't read it. Others who have it, you don't have the same trouble? What about when you're web browsing? It's tiny. Is there a a way to increase text size universally without changing the resolution (apologies if it's a dumb question--this is new to me).
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post #30 of 31
5/22/05 at 7:53am

Try: Resolution, Font Size, ClearType

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Originally Posted by chirpster
I also just bought Acer 8100 at the high resolution...
...It's just so small I can't read it.
Can you tell which resolution you have exactly? The TravelMate 8100 series ACER GLOBAL page presents the 8100 as always having "15.4" WSXGA+" (i.e. 1680x1050 pixels spread on a 15.4" diagonal screen), and the French specs alike. But different configs often exist nevertheless, so it is useful if you can precise.
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Originally Posted by chirpster
when I change the DPI or font size in Windows it only affects some of the text, and other areas are still small
Can you confirm you tried the tips above:
  1. Desktop \Right-Click \Properties \Settings \Advanced \General \Display \Font Size, Try "Large Fonts" (120 dpi) (more powerful and visible)
  2. <Ctrl><Wheel> (faster)
I mean, the faster tip may not be sufficient, the 1st one (including the rebooting, required in W2K and may be in XP) may give more complete results
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Originally Posted by chirpster
Is there a a way to increase text size universally without changing the resolution (apologies if it's a dumb question--this is new to me).
I don't see other ones as changing the resolution ("Desktop \Right-Click \Properties \Settings \Screen area", or more complete "Desktop \Right-Click \Properties \Settings \Advanced \Adapter \List All Modes"). But changing resolution will blur, which may me cured by activating ClearType (see above, §3).

Paris, Sun 22 May 2005 12:53:45 +0200
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post #31 of 31
5/22/05 at 9:00pm
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Originally Posted by chirpster
I've been reading the posts on the ratios above, as I am new to the LCD screen too. I also just bought Acer 8100 at the high resolution. I didn't realize I would not be able to read the text. It is so small, and it seems when I change the DPI or font size in Windows it only affects some of the text, and other areas are still small. This is a great laptop, and I did want a high-res notebook thinking it would be real crisp, which it is. It's just so small I can't read it. Others who have it, you don't have the same trouble? What about when you're web browsing? It's tiny. Is there a a way to increase text size universally without changing the resolution (apologies if it's a dumb question--this is new to me).
We're having the same problems, I assure you.
Windows implementation of "Display DPI" leaves much to be desired. There are many applications not taking DPI into account, including the famous "Internet Explorer".
So, for web browsing I suggest you look into alternative browsers as well. (For instance, Mozilla can rescale web pages with fixed size fonts and it has it's own DPI setting).
Newer applications also start to show more consideration in this field, so let's keep our hopes high

Cheers,
_EnF_
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