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Finding a 100gig hard drive for my Ferrari

post #1 of 25
5/14/05 at 7:05am
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Hi Folks,

Can anyone tell me where to get a 100 gb hard drive that will fit my Ferrari 3200 (7200rpm) ?

I think Hitachi have got them out, also the article I read mentioned serial ata and parrallel ata drives. What is the difference and which type do i need for my lappy.

Also does anyone know where I can find a suitable case to make my present hard drive into an external, I remember some guys talking about this before.

Thanks RD
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post #2 of 25
5/14/05 at 10:50am
It's out but not really sold universally yet, I believe...

And the price tag will be quite high.

Not sure about the SATA/PATA, but regarding the external cases, you can buy one from computer stores, but I'd head over to www.tigerdirect.com or .ca if your Canadian, to look around. I wouldn't recommend buying it from there, TD has quite a reputation for having EXCELLENT and WORST EVER services.

Look for the 2.5" ones
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post #3 of 25
5/14/05 at 11:13am
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yes i read the article on it, they said it is being shipped to laptop builders, but didn't say "you can buy it in the shop". I am still running the old 4200rpm in my machine with 512mb ram. I do digital photo editing and at present, everything is terribly slow. I can't believe Acer shipped these lappies with such an old hard drive, they must have wanted to get rid of them!
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post #4 of 25
5/14/05 at 11:47am
Hi

They only started shipping them a few days ago

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/05...velstar_100gb/


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post #5 of 25
5/14/05 at 11:55am
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Thanks, that is the third article i have read that goes on about the wonder of the new drive, but doesn't say where you can get it.

Also as asked before what is the difference between serial and parrellel?
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post #6 of 25
5/15/05 at 3:17pm
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Originally Posted by richarddesmond
Thanks, that is the third article i have read that goes on about the wonder of the new drive, but doesn't say where you can get it.

Also as asked before what is the difference between serial and parrellel?
Parallel:
Number of separate data lines.
Number of bits of data moved simultaneously.
Serial:
One data bit transferred at a time.
Not as fast as parallel.

Parallel wire generally has a larger number of connections-25,36,50 etc.
More bandwidth throughput with parallel.
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post #7 of 25
5/15/05 at 3:38pm
I installed a Hitachi 60 GB 7200 rpm (fast mother) and put the original drive in an external 2.5" USB powered case, giving me 140 GB total with fast load times, etc etc
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post #8 of 25
5/15/05 at 4:10pm
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Originally Posted by blackfrancis
Parallel:
Number of separate data lines.
Number of bits of data moved simultaneously.
Serial:
One data bit transferred at a time.
Not as fast as parallel.

Parallel wire generally has a larger number of connections-25,36,50 etc.
More bandwidth throughput with parallel.

Thanks for that, do you know which type fits the ferrari?
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post #9 of 25
5/15/05 at 4:14pm
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Originally Posted by Plato
I installed a Hitachi 60 GB 7200 rpm (fast mother) and put the original drive in an external 2.5" USB powered case, giving me 140 GB total with fast load times, etc etc

Yeah, I have heard of some people doing that, I am assuming you see a big difference in speed between the 7200rpm and the old 4200? I might put in an 80gig, if there is much of a price difference. I think i will put in the full 2 gig of 400mhz ram too, if i can get a buy back on my stock ram...
At the moment, my lappy is slow to start, slow to open Photoshop, even though i keep the hard drive uncluttered, i must have 55gig of free space, it is still slow.
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post #10 of 25
5/15/05 at 5:48pm
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Originally Posted by blackfrancis
Parallel:
Number of separate data lines.
Number of bits of data moved simultaneously.
Serial:
One data bit transferred at a time.
Not as fast as parallel.

Parallel wire generally has a larger number of connections-25,36,50 etc.
More bandwidth throughput with parallel.
This is correct when you talk serial and parallel ports on a PC, but simply wrong when harddrives are concerned. Serial ATA is a newer standard with a much larger bandwidth than parallel ATA (up to 150 Mbyes/sec (for Gen 1 SATA, Gen 2 and 3 suposedly will have 300 and 600 MB/sec) vs max 133 Mbytes/sec). Other advantages are less wires (7 vs 80) resulting in a smaller cable (1/4 inch round vs 2 inch ribbon) that can obstruct airflow in a case.

Google is your friend.
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post #11 of 25
5/15/05 at 6:11pm
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Originally Posted by richarddesmond
Yeah, I have heard of some people doing that, I am assuming you see a big difference in speed between the 7200rpm and the old 4200? I might put in an 80gig, if there is much of a price difference. I think i will put in the full 2 gig of 400mhz ram too, if i can get a buy back on my stock ram...
At the moment, my lappy is slow to start, slow to open Photoshop, even though i keep the hard drive uncluttered, i must have 55gig of free space, it is still slow.
If you're running photoshop, I'd definitely go with 2GB pf 400MHz ram and the biggest 7200 rom drive available. You will see a very significant difference across the board.
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post #12 of 25
5/15/05 at 7:01pm
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I think I get it, like parellel printer, with all the separate pins. Ok, so for a lappy it is a bit different, because everything is more compact, anyone know whether the new hitachi coming out is gen1 or 2? And still no one has told me what is the connection for the ferrari hard drive, i am assuming serial.

I think that when i can afford it i will get the ram and the hard drive, then i will get nothing else for this baby, until it is out of date, the final item I will buy? A picture frame, as these red cases are beautiful enough to hang on the wall.

I keep reading these comments about the paintwork being over the top, I assume the people that say that, haven't actually got a ferrari? Man when you look at a camera in silver, it always looks better in black. When you see this Ferrari up close and personal, you can't imagine it in any other colour!
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post #13 of 25
5/15/05 at 8:21pm
The Acer Ferrari 3200/3400 uses a 2.5" hard drive with a parallel ATA-100 interface. I recommend the Hitachi Travelstar 7K100 100GB hard drive.
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post #14 of 25
5/16/05 at 12:58pm
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Originally Posted by snorre
The Acer Ferrari 3200/3400 uses a 2.5" hard drive with a parallel ATA-100 interface. I recommend the Hitachi Travelstar 7K100 100GB hard drive.

That is a shame, it sounds like it runs with the slower hard drive. I assume then Snorre, that it can only run a parallel interface. I noticed that it is up on Dell's site in the US as an option for $300, but isn't even mentioned on the UK site. I have noticed also that you pay the same amount in GB pounds £ for ram as you pay in $ in the US, what a rip. Also pc3200 seems to be quite a bit cheaper now than pc2700, go figure!

Given the price in the UK, I think I am going to look at getting someone in the US to buy me 2 gb ram, testing it in their own machine and sending it on. I don't like the idea of buying myself, getting a dodgy stick, having to send it back and try again. Seems like a 50\50 chance of getting crap ram.
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post #15 of 25
5/16/05 at 2:04pm
If you buy good quality brand name RAM, you have few worries.
Corsair, Kingston, Crucial, Patriot...

Also, I wouldn't fret too much about the "slower" parallel ATA drives - you would most likely see very little difference between the two interfaces (all other things being equal) in real-worls apps.
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post #16 of 25
5/19/05 at 2:20pm
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Get me some value ram!

Anyone willing to get me some value ram from within the US? What would be great is if you have a ferrari, test it in yours one stick at a time, then send it on. Could just use the easy access ram panel.

I looked at kingston value ram as snorre suggested, really good prices in the US, about $130 for a 1gb 400mhz stick! In the Uk it is about twice that price, I want to get 2x 1gb sticks. I have paypal accounts both in Euros and GB£, so if you have an account, could pay you through that. Only after it is purchased and I get emailed proof of such...

Hope to get the 7200rpm 100gb drive too, but i suspect there will be a wait on those...
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post #17 of 25
5/19/05 at 3:26pm
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Originally Posted by richarddesmond
Anyone willing to get me some value ram from within the US? What would be great is if you have a ferrari, test it in yours one stick at a time, then send it on. Could just use the easy access ram panel.

I looked at kingston value ram as snorre suggested, really good prices in the US, about $130 for a 1gb 400mhz stick! In the Uk it is about twice that price, I want to get 2x 1gb sticks. I have paypal accounts both in Euros and GB£, so if you have an account, could pay you through that. Only after it is purchased and I get emailed proof of such...

Hope to get the 7200rpm 100gb drive too, but i suspect there will be a wait on those...
Hi

Are you sure on the price of Ram in the uk ? or maybe its me looking at wrong type.

Anyway look Here


XIII
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post #18 of 25
5/19/05 at 4:19pm
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Originally Posted by XIII
Hi

Are you sure on the price of Ram in the uk ? or maybe its me looking at wrong type.

Anyway look Here


XIII
Hey man, thanks very much! That is a good price. I haven't looked on kelkoo for a while, for ram, last time i looked, even for 333mhz it was expensive.

Thanks again.
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post #19 of 25
5/19/05 at 4:35pm
Hi

No problem !

Happy Shopping


XIII
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post #20 of 25
5/19/05 at 4:41pm
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Errm...
I just noticed that the great price i saw was for 184 pin...
There is an Ok price on 200 pin, if after 2x 512mb. Unfortunately I am after 2 x 1gb, 200 pin, the site was making my head spin. If you see a sensibly price for 1 gb sticks let me know, I will be back in the UK in 2 weeks and would love to get some....
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