Im Selling My 9300

I'll give you $500.

i´ll give you

I´ll give you 700 dollars if the laptop has no scratchs or something wrong..

The PS3 is a monster...probably b/c the GPU on that thing is custom built...I'm an xbox fan but damn...the PS3 is sporting some muscle...puts our brand new 9300 to shame already! LOL

I have no money to offer, but I will give you a tip:

it's partridge not partrich

The Xbox 360 GPU is also custom built. These consoles better put existing PC vid cards to shame if they want to remain viable for 5-6 years. In 2 more PC vid card cycles we'll have caught up to the PS3/Xbox 360 in terms of GPU power or even surpassed them. Typically 2 cycles is about 1 year or a bit longer so by mid 2006 we should have R500 AMR type GPU's to play with. Of course with all the games being ported back and forth between the Xbox 360 and PC, we should start seeing more games available for the PC that take advantage of high end GPU's which is a good thing for PC gamers.

Xbox360 may be cusotm built video, but nothign like the PS3. The PS3 is already said by many people including Electronic Arts to be twice as pwoerful cpu wise as the Xbox360 as well as the PS3 video is said to be much faster than two 6800 Ultra cards. As well as the PS3 being able to platy High Def panning two Plasma tvs at one time for multiple playing fields etc.

i might just become a console gamer again.

yeeehaw.

Is there a link to some hot articles, and when's release date?

Nah, the video processors are on par with each other. The GPU used in the PS3 was designed by nVidia. The Cell processor is theoretically more powerful than the three 3.2 Ghz cores xbox 360 uses but they are also based on massive parallel processing which will probably make the system a bitch to program for and in the end it won't make much of a difference. There's only so much AI and physics you can cram into a game and it will really come down to GPU vs GPU and in that respect they're about equal.

I'm keeping my 9300 AND getting a PS3 when it comes out...
Hoping the controller won't be changed much...(one article says that they didn't have a controller at the "premiere"...speculating they are still tweaking it.)

You do realize that it won't be out for a few more months, do you?

I'll wait and see what actuanlly comes out of everything. Right now it is all marketing speak and carefully crafted demonstrations, and not the actual thing. And when the current generation of consoles was released, they were also suppsoed to be considerably more powerful than PCs, but got surpassed by them pretty soon. Console power tends to be a bit deceptive anyways, considering the amount of time they are announced in advance. Which doesn't mean I won't get one or more consoles, as some games are great; I tend to be a bit of a sceptic when people talk about how new consoles will completely blow PCs out of the water and pretty much make them obsolete for gaming.

what about the new nintendo system? Is it any good? Bah, it is probably gonna be another gamecube

Nintendo is reported to be taking a more revolutionary approach to their next-gen console, the way the game controllers work, and such, rather than only going for raw power like Sony and MS seem to be doing.

Just have a bit of patience, Nintendo will have its pressconference in a few hours, and I'd expect them to reveal at least something about the Nintendo Revolution, with the two other competitors having been revealed the last few days.

There are several desktop configurations that put our 9300 to shame as well...and a couple of laptops too.

Yeah I would like to see how many people are going to have two plasma TV's for gaming... You are talking about 5 guys... maybe?

BTW plasma is not the best for gaming, if you leave the static image for over several hours you will have burn in. And I know some of the hard core gamers out there spend nights on through playing the same game
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So if you have score tabs top and/or bottom those will be in that plasma TV for the rest of its life, trust me.

LOL. You people are comparing a notebook to some game consoles.

As a 3d graphics artist, I can say that the next console I want my claws on is the PS3. Yeah, the XBox 260 is nice, but from all that I've seen at E3 it's not nearly as good as the PS3 in terms of the detail and precision it can work at. Over on the Xbox 2 you'll be playing higher resolution games that look nicer and have more polygons, while on the PS3 you'll be playing games that look like movies.

But the problem comes in where do the developers like Epic go? I go where the games are, and right now even though the PS3 is the system I want to own, the XBox 260 is the one I want to play. However, I'll be waiting into well next year to see what happens and wait for a significant price drop. Ideally they'll just port everything I want to play all over the place and hopefully nothing gets exclusived. Of course it never works out that way and only a couple of games I want to play don't get ported.

And as far as it stands right now, I was against both consoles since I have an XPS2. But I'm more inclined to buy a PS3 since Microsoft wants to take a cheap shot and declare their Halo3 to come out the day of the PS3 release. You play games against Sony, not with Sony. This is going to bite Microsoft and it might be in the form of Killzone 2 since Sony is putting an amazing amount of effort into that game. Hopefully it's a release title.

BTW, to those who are buying into the hype, has any console EVER in history met the hype it was marketed with? N64 a 3D Reality Simulator? PSX your home computer? PS2 a supercomputer?

The hardware is all going to be pretty equal simply due to the fact that they are all constrained to the same manufacturing capabilities, and that these consoles are designed by similarly capable companies.

However I am skeptical about PS3. The Cell CPU is a first gen release in PS3. That means it's not going to turn out to be ideal and will NEVER meet it's theoretical performance (CPUs never do in general, but this is likely to be more extreme). Xbox's CPU is more impressive to me honestly. 6 threads total across 3 cores of extremely honed PowerPC-architecture. PowerPC has been around for over a decade and has been enhanced and tweaked to a pretty refined level. However, Sony is probably better than MS when it comes to greasing a hype machine.

What you are going to see even more this gen is deveopers struggling to put together these insanely complicated technologies. More companies will be bought and merged into publishers, and more will die off. I've talked with developers personally at a few companies and they can not afford to fund their own games because the manpower and hours needed is rising exponentially due to the glitzy graphics.

When a developer gets bought by a publisher they must respond to every whim of their publisher. The publisher can and will often tell them what games to make, and refuse to fund games the developer would like to make. They also own everything basically since they give tons of cash to the developer. I saw Activision-owned plates on all computers at one developer. It's scary as hell. I asked a developer if they would ever go back to their legacy of fantasy FPS games and got lots of nostalgic looks and was told the publisher wouldn't let them because they didn't see the market.

I have 3 Modded xboxes and about 200 games...I actually play about 4 of them....Console games suck compared to Pc...