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post #21 of 46
The keyboard size you should see. Some say that it is too small, but it is really personal preference. A few keys are smaller than normal.

Also, look at the glossy screen on the 700m. Again, some like, some don't. I personally like it.

Regarding the desktop replacement comment, I don't see why the 700m can't act as a desktop replacement. With a keyboard and mouse, it misses not much that notebooks labelled "desktop replacement" have. With a fast processor, and good deal of RAM, most apps will run fine (not games though).
post #22 of 46
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Originally Posted by MitchellO

That is a bit silly. Why get the larger res when you are going to increase the fonts, mucking up the onscreen layout, just to get a size you would have had on the WXGA screen for cheaper??
Actually, that was exactly my point.

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Originally Posted by MitchellO
If you don't move around a lot, you might want to consider the 9300 as well with its large 17" screen. Everything would be big enough on screen if that is important to you. I wouldn't buy a 9300 because I move around a lot, so am in the process of selling my 8600 to buy a 700m.
Thanks, but I think the 9300 will be too big, even for just moving around the house comfortably.

It's down to the 6000 or the 700m for me. A lot will depend on:
A) how reflective the screen really is on the 700m. If the reflection is too distracting, it might be a dealbreaker.
And B) how hard it is to type a "period." I type ".com" a TON of times a day. If I can't correctly hit the period key, I'm in big trouble.

Any 700m owners have any comments on A or B above??

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post #23 of 46
Here's a thread with some great comparison shots of the 700m, 6000 and 9300.

http://notebookforums.com/showthread.php?t=74804

Also has a good shot showing the extended battery on the 700m.
post #24 of 46
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Originally Posted by MitchellO
The keyboard size you should see. Some say that it is too small, but it is really personal preference. A few keys are smaller than normal.

Also, look at the glossy screen on the 700m. Again, some like, some don't. I personally like it.
I think I was typing this while you were posting it.

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Originally Posted by MitchellO
Regarding the desktop replacement comment, I don't see why the 700m can't act as a desktop replacement. With a keyboard and mouse, it misses not much that notebooks labelled "desktop replacement" have. With a fast processor, and good deal of RAM, most apps will run fine (not games though).
This is EXACTLY what I'm starting to think, and why I'm starting to lean towards the 700m.

I really hope I like the smaller glossy screen and smaller keys!

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post #25 of 46
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MitchellO
Here's a thread with some great comparison shots of the 700m, 6000 and 9300.

http://notebookforums.com/showthread.php?t=74804

Also has a good shot showing the extended battery on the 700m.
Thanks. Actually I found that thread earlier. Amazing comparison shots, aren't they?

Looking at them again I realize that the 700m is really quite small compared to the 6000. Hmmm.... I hope it's not TOO small.
post #26 of 46
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I just read somewhere that the 700m screen attracts a lot of dust and dirt.

True? False?
post #27 of 46
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Originally Posted by netspots
Actually, that was exactly my point.


Thanks, but I think the 9300 will be too big, even for just moving around the house comfortably.

It's down to the 6000 or the 700m for me. A lot will depend on:
A) how reflective the screen really is on the 700m. If the reflection is too distracting, it might be a dealbreaker.
And B) how hard it is to type a "period." I type ".com" a TON of times a day. If I can't correctly hit the period key, I'm in big trouble.

Any 700m owners have any comments on A or B above??

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Reflections haven't been relevant in that simply moving the screen eliminates it, that one is a bit of a red herring to me. These shots were taken outside of course but not in direct sunlight. It's useless in direct sun as are most screens. I haven't had any trouble adjusting to the keyboard but I'm a poor typist anyway.









post #28 of 46
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Originally Posted by Richard Carver
These shots were taken outside of course but not in direct sunlight. It's useless in direct sun as are most screens. I haven't had any trouble adjusting to the keyboard but I'm a poor typist anyway.
Wow... now *that* is one cool setup! What is the computer resting on??

Excellent shots! (thanks for sharing). The glare here doesn't seem that bad -- I've certainly seen a lot worse. For example, look at the reflection from the blinds in this picture I came across:

http://netryder.osnn.net/700m/open.jpg
post #29 of 46
Quote:
Originally Posted by netspots
Thanks. Actually I found that thread earlier. Amazing comparison shots, aren't they?

Looking at them again I realize that the 700m is really quite small compared to the 6000. Hmmm.... I hope it's not TOO small.
Yeah, they are some great shots. There isn't a big difference in the 9300 and 6000, but its is big from the 6000 to the 700m!! I have seen one, and they aren't too small.

Nice shots Richard!! Wow! They are the kind of shots that you see in advertisements and stuff. They look great!
post #30 of 46
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Question for the 700m owners, please:

If an external monitor and keyboard are attached, the cover will be down (closed). Since the speakers are inside and not on the front, can you still hear the sound okay from the speakers? Or does the cover really need to be up/open all the time for decent sound?
post #31 of 46
Netspots....if you live in the states, why dont you just see if one of your local malls has a Dell Direct Store where you can actually play around with both of the models and see which one you like?
post #32 of 46
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Originally Posted by Impressionz
Netspots....if you live in the states, why dont you just see if one of your local malls has a Dell Direct Store where you can actually play around with both of the models and see which one you like?
As a matter of fact, I'm going to a Dell kiosk TODAY!

But certain things can only be discovered after actually using the computer for a while in real-life situations. Not in a crowded, noisy mall with other people waiting to "play" with the computers. That's why I'm asking actual owners. Know what I mean?

By the way, I REALLY appreciate the feedback from everyone. You have been an awesome resource!
post #33 of 46
well i have had my 700m for 3 weeks or so. and love it. so portable, never thought i would want a ulttraportable type. but once isaw the likes of the 9300 or 6000 i thought they were too big.

hopefully after today you will have a better idea of what you want.

as far as sound when the laptop is close...mine shuts off, i just tried now because i was curious but when i close it, it goes into standy, unless there is a setting to change that...

the keyboard takes a little getting used to, just because it is much smaller, but if you have an extra then it wont be a problem. i always hit the touchpad when tpying..so ill look up a realise that i typed half my message in a differnt spot. i have a mouse so i would really just like to disable the touchpad sometimes,,dunno if that is possible,

anyway i dont think you can go wrong either way. have fun with your laptop!
post #34 of 46
heh, I'm in a similar situation as you. I am planning on getting just 1 laptop as my ONLY computer. I currently have a desktop and a laptop, so I'm planning on selling them and buying a nice laptop. I don't mean to further confuse you, but I'd also consider the Dell 600m. In my humble opinion, it offers the best of both the 700m and the 6000. Size dimensions and weight-wise, it is between the two (700m = ~4.1lbs, 600m = ~5lbs, 6000 = ~6.6lbs). The 600m also uses a dedicated ATI Radeon 9000 mobility (32mb or 64mb, your choice) video sub-system, versus the intel integrated on the 700m and 6000. The 600m uses a 14.1" LCD (XGA or SXGA+ resolutions, your choice). It uses the 855PM chipset, which is pretty much the 855GME chipset that the 700m uses, minus the integrated video. Therefore, the 700m and the 600m are very similar specs-wise, they just each offer their own pros/cons (600m has bigger LCD and more roomier keyboard, and dedicated video, but weighs ~1lb more and is a bit bigger.....700m is light/compact, but has a smaller LCD/keyboard etc.). As other members here have mentioned, the keyboard on the 700m is slightly smaller than traditional laptop keyboards, so make sure you can type on it ok.

On the other hand, the 6000 uses the newer 915GM chipset, code-named "Alviso". It uses DDR2 RAM (as opposed to "older" DDR RAM on the 600m and 700m), and support the newer Pentium M CPUs with the 533MHz front side bus (as opposed to the 400MHz FSB on the 600m and 700m). Technically, the 6000 has newer technology than the 600m and 700m, but most people say that the performance gain of the newer alviso chipsets aren't that significant.

In any case, the choice is up to you in the end, the 700m is a great laptop, as most people who have it absolutely love it. The 6000 is also a nice machine, it offers all the "newer technology" at a great price. The 600m IMHO is a nice comprimise between the 2. I'm planning on getting the Dell Inspiron 6000D (same as 6000, but with dedicated ATI Radeon X300 graphics) since I have similar needs as your, just with a little gaming on the side as well. Good luck!
post #35 of 46
anyone know if the 600 with the 533 bus will support future Pentium M chips?

there is currently a 2.0 out, i will upgrade to another chip in about a year im sure.

will the dell support higher ghz ratings????? dell was very uninformative about this question.

just curious for my future needs.
maybe with a bios update im sure it woudl, right?
post #36 of 46
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Originally Posted by hellfire88
In any case, the choice is up to you in the end, the 700m is a great laptop, as most people who have it absolutely love it. The 6000 is also a nice machine, it offers all the "newer technology" at a great price. The 600m IMHO is a nice comprimise between the 2. I'm planning on getting the Dell Inspiron 6000D (same as 6000, but with dedicated ATI Radeon X300 graphics) since I have similar needs as your, just with a little gaming on the side as well. Good luck!
Great info, thanks hellfire!

I actually took a look at all 3 of these today. It's getting pretty late, so I won't post my findings right now -- but if anyone is interested in more info just let me know. I know others are in the same boat as I am, so I'd be happy to type it all out... after I get some sleep.
post #37 of 46
which one did you end up getting?
post #38 of 46
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Originally Posted by netspots
Great info, thanks hellfire!

I actually took a look at all 3 of these today. It's getting pretty late, so I won't post my findings right now -- but if anyone is interested in more info just let me know. I know others are in the same boat as I am, so I'd be happy to type it all out... after I get some sleep.
What did you find out? We don't have Dell kiosks here in Germany, would appreciate it if you could tell us what you found out. Thanks!!!
post #39 of 46
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Originally Posted by wirsinny
What did you find out? We don't have Dell kiosks here in Germany, would appreciate it if you could tell us what you found out. Thanks!!!
Okay, here goes…

First off, I was disappointed to find that the computers were severely disabled. For example, you are only able to look at websites that Dell had bookmarked (not many). I really wanted to go to sites that I was familiar with (like Yahoo or NotebookForums) but I couldn’t. I wanted to see how things were set up in the Control Panel, but I couldn’t. Heck, I couldn’t even right-click – it too was disabled.

Anyway… I was happy to find the 6000 sitting right next to the 700m (I’ll bet I’m not the only one comparing these two models).

** The 6000 was surprisingly nice. It looked strong and solid, and got a lot of attention. The keyboard looked good and had a nice “feel” to it. The monitor was big. The resolution was WSXGA+. At this resolution the text looked a little small in places. I really wanted to see some other sites that I knew used smaller type, to see if I could read the smaller type, but I couldn’t – again, disabled. Can you tell that this bothered me? I also wanted to change the resolution to WXGA setting, just to see the size difference, but that function was disabled as well. The only negative I found in the 6000 was its size and weight. It’s a bit on the large side (it’s pretty wide), and a little heavy. If it were just a little bit smaller and a little bit lighter, it would be perfect for me.

** The 700m was pretty small. The size might seem better if you don’t have anything to compare it to, but sitting next to the 6000 it seemed MUCH smaller all around (body, screen and keyboard). I wasn’t too crazy about the keyboard. It was small, seemed a little cramped, and didn’t have the nice feel the 6000 keyboard had. The screen was shiny and VERY dusty (the guy said they have to clean it several times per day). To be fair, there was bright sunlight on the 700m due to a sunroof in the mall, so it was hard to fairly compare the screen to the 6000 (I couldn’t move it too far thanks to the security cable)… but from what I could tell the 700m screen did appear to be sharper than the 6000 (although it was obviously much smaller).

So which one am I getting? The truth is, I don’t know. I’ve never had a wireless laptop before, so I have to do some serious thinking about how I *think* I’ll be using it. Will I really be moving it from room to room, into the backyard, out and about? Or will it mostly be sitting on my home-office desk. Will I be using the laptop's built in screen and keyboard, or will it mostly be hooked up to an external monitor and keyboard? Hard to say, since I’ve never done it before. Again, I gotta think about this.

Any comments? Questions? Suggestions?

Can you help me choose??
post #40 of 46
If you move it around a lot, the 700m would be better. Thats one of the reasons I am selling my 8600 (about same size as the 6000) to get one.
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