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Networking in the wide world of wireless. . .HELP!!

post #1 of 14
10/6/03 at 1:19pm
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Heres the deal, if anyone can help It would be great. I want to network both desktop and laptop. The setup is as follows.

Laptop - wireless card
Desktop - usb wireless adapter
Lynksys wireless access point router

I can get on the internet, game etc. with both machines. I CANNOT get the two to see each other. I have Norton Firewall on both computers. Ive tried using the homenetworking wizard in XP, no go. Ive added permission with the firewalls, no go, IVe even tried with no firewalls installed whatsoever on either machine NO GO. I really dont know crap about networking and it was so easy before when one computer connected trough the other for a connection whcih is not the case now. Sigh im sick of this, hell I even reformatted both machines two days ago since I was also a candidate for the stupid internet explorer flaw that was supposedly patched back in august redirecting me from search engines. If anyone can help either post, email or message me at nevitable@hotmail.com Thanks a bunch, Later, NEv.
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post #2 of 14
10/6/03 at 2:50pm
*) Turn the firewalls off on both machines. You'll turn them back on until everything works.

*) Since both machines have access to the Net, I am assuming they are getting their IPs automatically. Dont worry about this then.

*) Both machines have to have the SAME work group name. Eg. WORKGROUP. If they are not currently the same, change them to something common and reboot as asked. See if it works. If it does, youre done.

*) On each machine, right click the little connection icons in the tray, select properties/status, go to Support tab, write down the IP addresses on the two machines. Then, go Start> Run> type 'cmd', press ok. Type 'ping [ip address of machine 2' on machine 1 and press enter. Do the same for the other machine, reversing appropriately. If you get 'replies', you should be fine.

Woah, Im beginning to confuse myself. LMAO. Is that clear enough. Hope it helps.
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post #3 of 14
10/6/03 at 3:02pm
Definitely uninstall all XP Home network settings. You don't need that because you've got a router.

I'm using different workgroups and having no problem, but that was good advice, I've had to do that before.

In network settings for each machine/network connection,
make sure you have "Client for Microsoft Networks" in the "This connection uses the following items:" list. To add it click Install, Client, Add... follow instructions.

without Client for Microsoft Networks, you should be able to communicate between the machines by IP address as mentioned above. Client for Microsoft Notworks will add the ability to comm using computer names.
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post #4 of 14
10/6/03 at 3:05pm

Also....

Do what he said, but also... go to my network connections, or my network places... I forget what it is in XP... right click your wireless connection and make sure you install IPX/SPX protocol on both computers. This is usually the protocol the computers use to file and print share... which is what you sound like you are trying to do. Hope this helps!

stevo
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post #5 of 14
10/6/03 at 3:17pm
yeah, that's right, you need to make sure file and printer sharing is on. Go to Network settings, Install, Service, File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks.

My guess is this stuff was already set on your computer, though, as it pretty much is by default.

I am not using ipx and all works for me. But if you want to try it do Install, Protocol...
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post #6 of 14
10/6/03 at 3:32pm

werks fer me...

Ya IPX/SPX, I have never been able to get my rigs to talk without it. BTW I only have 2 computers networked... You may have more... then IPX/SPX might not apply. TCP/IP would probably apply in that case... File and Print sharing MUST be installed in order for them to "jive". Let us know what works... so we can gloat... hehe

stevo
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post #7 of 14
10/6/03 at 4:13pm
I don't know if uninstalling XP's networking makes any difference in this, but I found that if I didn't have WEP enabled, XPs built-in firewall would not allow connection. I would turn it off, but it would come right back on automatically unless I enabled WEP.

Its a good idea anyway, though I understand the security it provides is pretty much the same as having a sign outside saying you have an alarm system, in other words, if your neighbor's house doesn't, the burglar will probably try the neighbor's house before yours. And, yes, it does keep out the casual snoop, maybe a neighbor who sees your LAN come up because of bleed-over and decides to glom onto your internet connection or check out your files.

Anyway, try enabling WEP and see what happens. Its pretty easy to do, most routers have a routine to generate a code from a phrase.
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post #8 of 14
10/7/03 at 12:49pm
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When I try to enable WEP neither computer can access the net. With it disabled I can. Ill try looking at the suggestions above and see if that helps. Ill give a go at it here in a little bit and post back with my results. Thanks all for the replies and hopefully I can get this working and gain some knowledge in the process. It sucks because I have an extra 80 gig on the desktop with all my files, and mp3s. It'd be nice to have network access to those from the laptop without filling up my 60gig.

Crosses fingers. . . . . . Ill be back!
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post #9 of 14
10/7/03 at 4:31pm
If the net stops working with WEP, it means that your access point has WEP disabled (the access point controls the security!; if the settings on the access point dont correspond to the settings on the client, the connection wont work).
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post #10 of 14
10/7/03 at 4:35pm
Good point, mmarkin, though I would have thought that was a given. Then again, its often that one little thing that could never go wrong that is often at fault. Sort of like you always find stuff in the last place you look.

In any case, look at the bright side, the best way to learn is by making mistakes and screwing up, ask anybody. So to learn a lot very well, make as many mistakes as you can.
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post #11 of 14
10/7/03 at 4:36pm
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Originally posted by MARQUISDARQUIS
Good point, mmarkin, though I would have thought that was a given. Then again, its often that one little thing that could never go wrong that is often at fault. Sort of like you always find stuff in the last place you look.

In any case, look at the bright side, the best way to learn is by making mistakes and screwing up, ask anybody. So to learn a lot very well, make as many mistakes as you can.
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post #12 of 14
10/7/03 at 8:10pm
Just a general point -

USB Network Hardware = Suck

Higher pings, lower throughput and more issues (dropping, etc).

NS
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post #13 of 14
10/7/03 at 10:26pm
Once you've verified that it works without the software firewalls running, try letting traffic on IIRC ports 137 and 139 through your firewall (double check the ports by googling).
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post #14 of 14
10/8/03 at 3:43am
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Originally posted by Keen
Once you've verified that it works without the software firewalls running, try letting traffic on IIRC ports 137 and 139 through your firewall (double check the ports by googling).
Er........ I wouldn't unless you want to open some major security holes on Windows OS's or get those annoying messenger popups.

NS
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