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I was thinking about buying a Sager 3880 and noticed pctorque had some nice setups and prices. I emailed em wanting to know what type of ram and hd's they use but was told they vary and I should talk to sager if I want something specific.

Now here is the thing, I am looking for some reseller site out there that actually works with the sager products and can put what you want/need in them or at least be able to tell me what I am going to be getting before I actually buy it.

Is there such a site around?
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Sager, like every other laptop brand in the world I know of, reserves the right to install components at their discretion. This often means testing multiple brands for stability and performance during R&D. If more than one are approved they go with who can produce the supply they need for the best price. As weeks and months go by supply and pricing can change leaving them to go with another approved brand.

Now, considering the speed and timing of RAM is expected to be LOCKED in all laptops, having different RAM clocked faster will do nothing at all for the system. I've not really seen RAM stability issues in Sagers and the RAM I've often seen used is named APACER which if you research you'll find it's made at the same plant with the same standards as a few others with different names. As far as hard drives, some have no choice but to be a particular brand considering one brand only makes them. If you compare two 60GB 5400rpm mobile hard drives currently on the market of any brand you will find no significant performance, stability, or noise level differences in whole. While months of testing may show one brand of hard drive on average with the same rating has a fractional increase, the difference is not going to be any higher than the tolerance of the same brand compared to itself likely. It's like you driving two identical cars on a 20 mile trip, one with cruise set at 50MPH, the other set at 50.01MPH. If you drove them back to back are you going to have any idea which one was that faster trip considering speedometers can easily vary by 10 times the difference of those two speeds? The real question is do you want to be told brand “X” is the fastest and only what we carry or do you want to be told the truth? The truth is there have been differences in mobile drives in the past and they've been talked about, but currently the RAM and hard drives available and used have been tested to be as fast and dependable as they can be.

If a company really is only using brand "X" RAM and brand "Y" hard drives it's probably not because they truly feel that it's the best brand, it's probably because they're either locked into a contract or for marketing using a bigger name. If you look at RAM, HD, LCD, and media drives, you almsot always find variations in models and brands used in the same system from any company.

Places have been known to put faster RAM in a laptop to be a selling point. In reality the faster marked RAM runs no faster than the laptop is locked at running and provides no advantage other than collecting uneducated buyers and a few more $.
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Well actually, I wanted to know what ram and hd's are used not because I want the fastest but because I just have certain brands I trust more than others.

As well, I was hoping the Seagates were used because I love their 5 year warrenty. If all brands were completely the same including product history (have they been know to have good stuff in the past or bad) then I would say it wouldn't matter either.

Either way I trust that the hardware in a Sager might be the best it can be but if I had a choice I would just pick the Seagate

As for the ram it comes down to the same thing pretty much. While I am not sure of Corsairs warrenty, I wanted to go with them because of all this talk lately about cheap ram and how a lot of people are coming up with either mem test errors or real crashes. In every desktop I have built I used Corsair just because from the beginning I have never had a problem with them and am under the believe that they use either higher quality parts or higher quality production resulting in overall higher quality ram. Not faster, just better made so to speak.

Also, I know that any brand can screw up from time to time and eventually I am going to get something either broken or flawed but I just like my chances with those two brands.

The main reason I email you all and posted this was because if there was a place out there where I could get them to use the brands I like best I would rather go with them. That isn't to say my laptop will be any better or different .. just to say I wont be as worried about things if I get brands I personally know about and have experience with. Untill I discover the laptops first problem that is...

Either way if I cant find someone out there that can do that pctorque would be my very first choice to come to and as I am seeing ... I will prolly be coming to you guys very soon for the 3880


Btw, thx for the reply w/info. You guys at pctorque seem really nice
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