Alienware not looking promising

Alienware put better quality parts in and there is really no differnece in AMD or INTEl its ram and GPU that make big difference, so dont lose your thaith in AW they are sill great. Also they are updating the websites with new configuration options.

I agree in my eyes i think the 64 bit proccessor is the next big update needed i wish that i had gotten it but perhaps at a later date, a upgrade will be available. I know alienware has their reasons as to why they havent put in any 64 bits

i spoke with a rep over at alienware. He confirmed that all area 51m 7700 laptops are capable of running pentiums 64-bit processors. Its just a matter of when alienware certifies it and puts it out. They are very well known for being slow with pushing out updates. You could techincally go out and buy ur own 64-bit processor and slap it in, but youd void ur warranty. If i were you i would go with sager because they really care about their previous customers. I dont even think alienware willl be offering an upgrade program for previous customers that want the geforce 6800 ultra. Just my opinon.

In all honesty I'm kinda pissed at alienware. I've had my laptop almost a year now and I'm not able to upgrade anything.... because of the new laptop. I spent just shy of $3,000 and I have a paper weight that no one wants to buy unless I give it to them for the price of a dell.

I'm regretting that I even went with Alienware because I could have a really nice desktop with a wide screen 23" to 30" LCD :-(.

Oh well right?

fate, im not sure if you have read that survey but i think that it could mean that AW is gonna do something for the 51m owners who are facing issues because of the "upgradeable graphics" and the fact that uniwill stopped producing the base machine for the series. i see that actually as something that is of a very high likelyhood. i think there is still some hope, and AW is just trying to figure out what to do.

Im pretty sure they will give Upgrade options for the card. Problem right now is probably the Ultra is a very hard to come by card. So they want to get new customers first. 4000, to your 200. Plus if you have a PCIe card already, Its still a pretty new card. Me myslef im gonna see what ATI does about the card.

64 is great, but not many apps are even able to take full advantage of the 64's capabilities. Besides, with all the horror stories out there about Alienware stuff breaking/not working, I think AW wants to beta the hell out of it before they release. Sometimes you just gotta stay a step off of the bleeding edge, otherwise you might get burned.

But 64 bit isnt the bleeding edge. Dual-core is probably the bleeding edge, HP has been putting 64 bit processors in laptops for over two years now, and they had the lead time before that...What is taking so long? And I disagree with the no difference between AMD and Intel statement, I think there is a BIG difference.

I'll agree that AMD rocks intels world. However, even though new hardware has hit the scene, I still consider 64-bit up there at the top. The problem is, usually software vendors push hardware manufacturers to improve on technology. In this case, the hardware manufacturer did it's own thing, and only a few software vendors have taken advantage, mainly OS's, so far. There is no 64 bit Maya, or Lightwave. There is no 64 bit Adobe Suite. Aside from the small (and every benchmark confirms this) increase in speed, there is little reason to even buy a 64 right now. http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.c...id=1665&page=7 Well, your OS may run faster, if you have the 64 bit edition. Moreover, 32 bit apps are likely to slow down on a 64 bit machine, is this really desired? Why put more heat (I'll grant that AMD's produce less heat than intel's) into your machine, more money into your machine, for something that isn't going to do a damned thing for you, when you could just wait until the software vendors start making products that utilize the technology, and buy yourself a shiny new one at the latest speeds?(run on sentence much?) I love the idea of 64 bit, and now the dual cores are making me drool, but, I just don't see the need for it at this point.

...and my FX55 crushes your head! *pinch pinch*

AMD vs. Intel (groan)

The whole AMD vs. Intel battle is getting pretty tired. That horse has been ridden around the paddock a few million times. The who's fastest crown jumps back and forth between the two faster then J-Lo can slide into a thong. They are both great chips each for different reasons. AMD has always offered chips at a cheaper price, Intel has always been the more compatible. It really comes down to which machine you wanna ride, for whatever reasons you wanna ride it. Check your 3DMark scores and you will see both AMD and Intel chips running side by side most of the time. So for the sake of sanity, let's find something new to debate!

Tired Debates
1. AMD vs. Intel (which logo would you like on your t-shirt today)
2. ATI vs. nVidia (ATI has sucky driver support, nVidia lets to many companies fark with they're design)
3. LCD vs. CRT (LCD is crisper, CRT is cheaper to go big)
4. Cable vs. DSL (When they go down, they both suck)
5. OpenGL vs. DirectX (White or Corprate White)
6. USB 2.0 vs. FireWire (who cares, plug and go)
7. VHS vs. Beta (crap, my age is showing)
8. YIM vs. MSM vs. AIM (Holy Crap, they all suck)
9. Alienware vs. VooDoo (Lets not go there)
10. Coke vs. Pepsi (Shut up already and drink the crap)

God rest these topics of yor!

Jade, the last post made to this was like two weeks ago.
and you forgot AM vs. FM

I remember when AM was king, lotta Billy Preston and such...didn't Billy play with the Beatles? Well here I Go Round In Circles...

FM "rocked" my world around 1969. In Leroy's world it was Pacifica/KAUM/KLOL lets don't forget the "X"...

Ah, good memories...my best radio bet nowadaze is a junior college FM station outta Alvin, TX (Gulf Coast Rocker). They jam! I hear AM is actually a tech of the future?

Damn ol' threads

Zoid

bah...its XM now baby!

I'm so old...but, but XM waftin' from my front porch onto the "front" forty don't sound bad. Screw AM...

Damn whipper snappers...

Zoid

Playing Catchup!

I haven't been around the forums lately, so i'm playing catchup! Just for goofs I tried AM tonight... there is only 1 station left in our area. 700WLW is the last one standing on AM I could even tune in hehe. I heard you could cuss on XM radio... I don't see why you could'nt, only 9 people would hear it (snicker)

I hate AW's warranty policy on top of its 7700's weight and heat. (I don't mean the performance).
How can an engineer who can build a high end lappy from scratch mess up with a simple CPU installation?
I am still alive after a trillion moves of the CPU for .... AS5, upgrading, taking a look when feeling bored.........
I am so sure that GPU is much more sensitive than the CPU (well, at least they are equally sensitive), but AW allows you to apply AS5 on to the GPU under their technician's supervision..... What a shame.

My AM stations have Political shows with hosts pounding their fists and yelling into the mic <visions of hitler on podium>. Ultra Conseratives. They yell at their own phone guests even when they agree with them. I gotta stay on FM. stern, rock, and lots of beer commercials.

To fully see the benfits of moving to 64 bit, you'll need to upgrade Windows to 64bits, wait for all the component manufacturers to upgrade their drivers to 64 bit version and finally wait for applications to come along that actually take advantage of the feature.
So you're not going to see any advantage in getting a 64bit processor right now. Though there is a 64bit version of Far Cry.
But wait a second....it only works with AMD64.

My recommendation, go ahead and order a nice fast 3.8Ghz P4. You won't regret it. I didn't.

Remember also, that while hyper-threading has been around for some time, there are still only a handful of apps that use it. Any hardware changes that require coders to change their code to use it (like HT and 64bit) has always taken ages to go mainstream. Where coders don't have to program to see improvements (more gigahertz) you'll notice the difference.

I do a lot of video editing and graphics work and have 2gigs of RAM in my machine and even when doing crazy shit in After Effects, I still amn't using it all. The key reason for upgrading to 64bit is the availability of >4gigs memory. Who needs that?

I know there's 2mb of L2 cache, but many of the reviews I have read show no performance increase and some have even shown a decrease! (Comparing regular 3.8P4 to 64bit 3.8P4, 570J V. 670)

The other "benefit" from the 600 series (64bit) is enhanced intel speedstep technology. The 7700 is NOT a machine that was ever meant to run off a battery, so who gives a damn about power savings?

I had looked into getting a 670 processor in my 7700 when I ordered, but reasoned it out, and came to the above conclusions. Hope it helps.