Anyone here have a Mac ?? - Page 2

what are you planning to use your notebook for?

Also have you considered other pc notebook brands such as Asus? I think the V series is in the sub 6lb range.

Why am I an idiot? Apple's software sucks. It's GUI looks like it was made for little kids. There is no freaking right click function. Why the heck would I want to use that?

Hey Netspots. I was a mac consultant for a long time before becoming a NT guy in the late 90s. I supported Windows for a long time, before being hired at SGI to support irix/linux boxes in a development environment. My wife has a ibook I bought for her, and I have a Thinkpad with a i6000 on order. My thinkpad runs Fedora, my office machine runs XP Pro.

I only share that, so I have some credibility in a stinkin, no good, mac versus windows debate.

Here's my professional opinion: Apple beats the shit out of anything else out there from an end-user standpoint. Something that people don't know, is that every Apple, even the mini, comes with all the software most people would ever want. And it's top notch. I think the value is there, and the software is vastly superior to anything on a windows box. Even Apple image viewers work better and are easier to use.

But I won't buy one for me. I think the prices are an outrage.

From a professional standpoint, it doesn't help me one bit.

From a cultural standpoint, mac fans bug the shit out of me. They drive VWs, and I hate VW. I hate Bikernstocks, and elitsts assholes who can talk about the nuances of a glass of wine!

For any typical person who would rather work on then play with computers, I can't understand making any choice but Apple...

Freak4dell -> Well I guess everyone is entitled to their own opinion...but I've found most apple software to be quite good. Are you talking about the OS or 3rd party software for the mac? Oh, and there IS right click functionality on a mac.

I recently got a D610 a few months ago and was seriously considering switching to a mac (probably 12" powerbook). In the end there are a couple programs I have to use for school and work that are only available for the PC and won't run correctly under Virtual PC....and I needed a serial port.

But I've got a couple good friends with powerbooks and I've been very impressed with them. I also am tired of the windows vs. mac debate and for most normal usage a mac works great. At this point I know enough about computers to not get to annoyed when I have to mess around w/ drivers or system settings.

Nick

Actually OS 10.2 and up included support and functionality for right-clicking. Put a two button mouse on there and boom, you have a fully supported feature. If the OS X GUI is made for kids, what would you call the big green start button in my left hand corner, or the fact that Longhorn is implementing several of the GUI characteristics of OS X? One question, have you ever used a Mac? Have you ever used OS X? Have you ever used FCP or Motion? Or any other iApps even? What do you base your opinion on?

Maybe "idiot" was the wrong word. Possibly ignorant or naive would have been better. Every one will, and should, have their own opinion on the platform. My basis is that OS X gives all the benefits that everyone praises Linux/Unix systems for, minus being free, but gives valid support and software innovation towards the platform. Windows is good in certain scenarios, but I get tired of having to deal with the constant vulnerabilities that the OS faces. I would love to see Microsoft do a complete re-write of the code, putting an emphasis on quality control, opposed to speed-to-market. half the problems that the Windows development teams now are facing with longhorn is trying to correct the previous mistakes of the old OS, and implement new, working strategies for their new software. It would be nice to see compannies take a step towards prevention of OS problems/vulnerabilities, instead of a treatment (it gets broken, then we fix it) mentality. Apple did this to a point with OS X by choosing a Unix backbone, and they deserve to get some praise for it.

Exactly how does it "suck". Do Mac come with built in Vacuums? As one poster said before Macs come with thr iLife suite that PC people have been spending lots of money trying to get. And as for the GUI, it is skinable, you don't have to use the original, and it looks very nice in my opinion.

I tell you what does act very poorly, Doesn't "SUCK", just limited is Windows Movie Maker. If PC came with a Suite like iLife, I think a lot of people would consider PC more heavily.

Man, I don't know why you guys are taking freaks bait. He's trolling.

i actually think that mac os has been easier to learn than windows

Macs have had multiple mouse button support since at least version 8. Right click has been there for at least 10 years now.

I used Macs for several years, and I never liked it. However, if you guys like it that's your thing.

Right click has not been there for 10 years. Maybe it's there now, but it hasn't been there for ten years.

I just don't like the format of the Apple OS, which also makes me not like the format of the software.

As for the GUI, I don't use the Windows XP GUI. I use the Classic Windows GUI because, like you, I think the Windows XP GUI is childish.

Anyway, everyone is entitled to their opinion. Maybe if I used the newest Macs for a couple of months or so, I would learn to like it, but right now, all I like about them is the hardware. Apple hardware is very good.

Windows has it's problems too, but I like it more than Apple's OS. I've heard good things about Linux. I should probably give that a try.

Yes, that's right, I'm lying. Right clicking on a Mac is a myth. Even now you can't right click on a Mac, it's just your imagination.

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Macs have had right click capabilities for at least 10 years and before that—and even now with the one button mice—you control clicked to access context menus.

yeah.. talk about having problems with software. use linux. because software is widely available for linux..... riiiight

There's tons of software.. there's several different compilers! Automation built right in!

(but seriously, there's more software in a minimal install of linux then any other OS I've ever played with)

There's more software choice in linux then people can even track. It's just that there's virtually nothing in the way of business software. Oh, and nothing for video editing either (just a real high-end solution that requires a small computer cluster)

Otherwise, gqview for image viewing is better then anything on Windows. mplayer is kicks media players ass. Pan is far better then free-agent or Agent. Linux has a lot going for it, everything but ease of use and hardware compatibility. But these issues are more and more issues of the past. Nevertheless, if you don't like the command line, linux isn't for you.

Still though, the software that Apple develops is better then anything I ever see.

Freak doesn't acknowldege it, but if it weren't for Apple there wouldn't be any stinkin Windows.

ok then, well since you know where to find linux software, i'd like a copy of macromedia studio mx 2004 and adobe cs2. THANKS!

Sorry I didn't make it clear, I was talking more about the big picture. Is there a graphics application like cs2? Yes. Are there programs that let you do web development? Yes.

I'll add that the people I've known and worked with who do the web development back-end stuff mostly prefer doing so on a linux box for a variety of straightforward reasons.

Of course the creative people, video, graphic design, page layout, almost always prefer a Mac or a windows box.

Different strokes for different folks. I'm no evangelist for any OS. Each OS has serious strengths and serious flaws.