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post #21 of 42
6/1/05 at 2:25am
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Originally Posted by urchin
It's not going to outperform any of those gaming-wise, but it'll be a heck of a lot lighter, smaller and have longer battery life. it's about 6.6lb with the battery and optical drive, has a 15.4" WSXGA+ and isn't 2" thick and will probably have around 3-4 hours battery life for general use.
Dont forget that both the W1 and the Acer 4000 will look so much better than the sager or dell.
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post #22 of 42
6/1/05 at 4:25am
I really would like to see some other turion/ AMD64 offerings from Sager and Asus before I buy. The Ferrari looks great, but I am wary of buying the first one out of the gate,so to speak...
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post #23 of 42
6/1/05 at 5:20am
it definately wont hold its own against the FNW, Alienware, 9860, or any of the other 98-- clones or the dell xps2 with the 6800ultra the 6800 or the x800 for that matter. it will do very well and beat anything with an x600 and be a good competitor for the go6600. but its not that powerful and it wont be enough to really take down the ultra high end gaming machines. its a great machine from the specs and i think the price is amazing but i want to see it in person before i really say how great it is.
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post #24 of 42
6/1/05 at 7:57am
Does anybody know about there being two different Ferrari 4000 models? Because I read this:
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"The Ferrari 4000 will be available in two versions," Chang said.

The higher-end edition would likely carry a street price not exceeding NT$70,000 while the second variation would cost under NT$60,000, he continued. The latter version would be available in the market in July.
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post #25 of 42
6/1/05 at 9:28am
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Originally Posted by oelj
Does anybody know about there being two different Ferrari 4000 models? Because I read this:
http://www.etaiwannews.com/Taiwan/Bu...1117156972.htm

"The Ferrari 4000 will be available in two versions," Chang said.

The higher-end edition would likely carry a street price not exceeding NT$70,000 while the second variation would cost under NT$60,000, he continued. The latter version would be available in the market in July.
Great find!

Very interesting news indeed, perhaps there will be an even faster model coming out in July compared to the one we've seen so far? Like a faster CPU, memory, hard drive and perhaps graphics too?
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post #26 of 42
6/1/05 at 9:53am
i'm abit confused over the AMD Turion 64 and the previous A64 used in the previous Acer Ferrari..

wa'ts the difference??
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post #27 of 42
6/1/05 at 10:58am
Two versions?
Anyone know hat the diffrences are? I was just about to preorder a Ferrari 4000. Crud, now i want to wait and see what the faster version has.
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post #28 of 42
6/1/05 at 12:15pm
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Originally Posted by naro
i'm abit confused over the AMD Turion 64 and the previous A64 used in the previous Acer Ferrari..

wa'ts the difference??
The Turion has better power managment and SS3 instructions.
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post #29 of 42
6/1/05 at 12:30pm
if you read the statement about the two models yu would see that a lower spec model will be released.... Thats why it is so much cheaper than what they are releasing now...
""The Ferrari 4000 will be available in two versions," Chang said.

The higher-end edition would likely carry a street price not exceeding NT$70,000 while the second variation would cost under NT$60,000, he continued. The latter version would be available in the market in July."

So the way i see it is that the higher end edition is the one about to come out any day now...
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post #30 of 42
6/1/05 at 1:07pm
yeah i agree i want the high end one too, so i wasn't to concerned when i heard about the second model

Im in the same boat as the rest of you, W1 vs 4K, but i am def leaning towards the 4k because of the 64-bit, i like that feature

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It's not going to outperform any of those gaming-wise, but it'll be a heck of a lot lighter, smaller and have longer battery life. it's about 6.6lb with the battery and optical drive, has a 15.4" WSXGA+ and isn't 2" thick and will probably have around 3-4 hours battery life for general use.
Yeah if i really wanted a 17" lappy i would get a big gaming machine, but i want 15", have you seen how big 17" lappys are?

Actually I find my self attracted to the w2, i am pretty set on 15", but i won't rule out on the possiblity of gettin a 17"
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post #31 of 42
6/1/05 at 2:41pm
Yeah, if they are using correct grammar then the statement reads that the version coming out soon is the better of the two models, and the next one will probably be toned down to just be more economical.

And no, I didn't hear anything about heat. Ask PolarTW or whatever his name is, he already owns one and has a thread over in Acer General.
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post #32 of 42
6/1/05 at 2:51pm
Putting the prices into a currency converter gave NT$60,000=US$1,914 and 70k=2,233, this puts the current price (from bytewize) closer to the low end version. Of course, that assumes the exchange rates haven't changed, so who knows.
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post #33 of 42
6/1/05 at 2:56pm
They said that the NT70k version is coming first and the other later... Why would bytewisecomputer put a version of a laptop that is supposed to come out in July on presale before the one that is currently being shipped to North America?
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post #34 of 42
6/1/05 at 3:03pm
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Originally Posted by naro
i'm abit confused over the AMD Turion 64 and the previous A64 used in the previous Acer Ferrari..

wa'ts the difference??
Compared to the low-power Mobile Athlon 64 CPUs in the previous Acer Ferrari models, the Turion 64 CPUs got 1MB L2 cache & SSE3 support for higher performance and PowerNow! C3 Deeper Sleep state for lower power consumption. See also this:

AMD Turion uses different kinds of transistors
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AMD has gone some way to answering a question quite a few of us have asked for months. Just what is the difference between the notebook Turion chips, Athlon 64s and Opterons.

At a presentation here at Gartner's System Builder Summit, Dave Everitt, European product manager for AMD, said transistors for the Turion are differently binned.

He said: "We've modified the transistors so they are cooler and added an additional C3 state to bring the power levels down."
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post #35 of 42
6/2/05 at 10:02am
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Originally Posted by Rustican
The Turion has better power managment and SS3 instructions.
oh..

so how are they named??

which are they higher end ones used for the Ferrari??
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post #36 of 42
6/2/05 at 1:06pm
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Originally Posted by naro
oh..

so how are they named??

which are they higher end ones used for the Ferrari??
Turions have the following nameing conventions: ML-37, ML-34, ML-32, ML-30, MT-34, MT-32, and MT-30.

ML = 35 watts of power used
MT = 25 watts of power uesd

37 = 3700+ rating
34 = 3400+ rating
32 = 3200+ rating
30 = 3000+ rating

The Ferrari 4000 has the ML-37 Turion CPU.
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post #37 of 42
6/2/05 at 1:46pm
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Originally Posted by wazoo42
Putting the prices into a currency converter gave NT$60,000=US$1,914 and 70k=2,233, this puts the current price (from bytewize) closer to the low end version. Of course, that assumes the exchange rates haven't changed, so who knows.
The high-end one will cost $2200 (someone in one of the other Ferrari threads got this number from an Acer rep) so I'm guessing the low end one will cost $1900. That'd be nice!
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post #38 of 42
6/2/05 at 1:55pm
2200 is not bad.. with the nice design. i'm sure it is high quality.. since it is a ferarri afterall.. i'm guessing they are able to keep the cost down thx to AMD...
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post #39 of 42
6/2/05 at 3:03pm
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Originally Posted by Rustican
Turions have the following nameing conventions: ML-37, ML-34, ML-32, ML-30, MT-34, MT-32, and MT-30.

ML = 35 watts of power used
MT = 25 watts of power uesd

37 = 3700+ rating
34 = 3400+ rating
32 = 3200+ rating
30 = 3000+ rating

The Ferrari 4000 has the ML-37 Turion CPU.
ah i see..

thanks man...
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post #40 of 42
6/2/05 at 4:59pm
Anyone know if the $2200 price tag is with XP home or XP pro? Can you upgrade the OS? Too bad the warranty is only 1-year, but if it is high-quality I guess that shouldn't be an issue...
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