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post #41 of 89
6/12/05 at 12:42pm
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Originally Posted by Shinzon
The Athlon64 X2 (dual core) TDP is around the P4 Prescott single core TDP (higher clocked models) - about 110W .
no it's not

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...spx?i=2410&p=2
Surprisingly enough, it is. Clock for clock, the Athlon 64 X2 will consume less power than a 130nm Athlon 64, and less than 20% more power than a 90nm Athlon 64. Note that the Athlon 64 X2 4200+ compared here also consumes less power than all single core 90nm Intel Pentium 4 CPUs. Even the Athlon 64 X2 4800+ consumes less power than all single core 90nm Pentium 4 CPUs.

The 130nm A64's all use less power than the P4's, and the dual core CPU's use even less.
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post #42 of 89
6/12/05 at 12:49pm
http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/2005...sstest-18.html

NUFF SAID........
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post #43 of 89
6/12/05 at 1:26pm
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Originally Posted by ambitwogunz
Heh, precisely why I'm waiting to see how much that new laptop will cost ...
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post #44 of 89
6/12/05 at 1:43pm
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I'm thinking it will cost more than what is currently for sale. Just simply because it will be better. It will come with a new gen graphic card (16 pipelines, a first in notebooks) and a new gen CPU (X2 Dual Core, a first in notebooks) and new tech usaly comes with a premium. Could always configure it with a single core CPU which should bring it back down alittle.
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post #45 of 89
6/12/05 at 2:11pm
MMMM I cant wait!....
But My next laptop is comming to me in JAN 06 so Ill see whats out by then.
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post #46 of 89
6/12/05 at 2:15pm
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Originally Posted by gmshau
no it's not

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...spx?i=2410&p=2
Surprisingly enough, it is. Clock for clock, the Athlon 64 X2 will consume less power than a 130nm Athlon 64, and less than 20% more power than a 90nm Athlon 64. Note that the Athlon 64 X2 4200+ compared here also consumes less power than all single core 90nm Intel Pentium 4 CPUs. Even the Athlon 64 X2 4800+ consumes less power than all single core 90nm Pentium 4 CPUs.
The 130nm A64's all use less power than the P4's, and the dual core CPU's use even less.
I thought that the dual core Athlon64 is at the same power consumption level as the single core Pentium 4 Prescott. It is amazing, that the Pentium 4 consumes 50W more under load than a Athlon64 X2 .
Nice how that has changed (hot Athlon XP, cool P4 Northwood) .
I hope that the new Clevo will be soon in stores.
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post #47 of 89
6/12/05 at 2:46pm
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Originally Posted by msanto
Heh, precisely why I'm waiting to see how much that new laptop will cost ...
Im assuming 1500+ more.....My 9880 will keep me happy for another 2-3 years
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post #48 of 89
6/12/05 at 3:33pm
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Originally Posted by ambitwogunz
This is interesting, at THG also.

Pick CPU 1, CPU 2 and the benchmark.

http://www23.tomshardware.com/index.html
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post #49 of 89
6/13/05 at 10:11pm
A little confused.

1-Does this mean that with AMD dual core, divx encoding will be slower?

2-Computer will generate less heat?

3-Run games just as well?

4-The graphics card will be just as powerful? Or, more so.


If the answers are yes to these questions, I would love one of these. I would love to be able to encode a movie, and do something else at the same time. Right now, once the lappy is encoding its useless for anything else.
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post #50 of 89
6/13/05 at 10:41pm
1-Does this mean that with AMD dual core, divx encoding will be slower?
Compared to the 9880, maybe. The dual core Pentium is probably better at Divx encoding than the dual core AMD since P4's have typically been faster at DivX encoding.

2-Computer will generate less heat?
Than a 9880? Probably, the processor should generate less heat, and hopefully the slower core/mem speeds of the GPU will also generate less heat.

3-Run games just as well?
Ideally better, since as powerful as the Geforce 6800 Ultra is, it's only a 12 pipe card. The X800XT will be a 16 pipe card. Also, A64 has always been better at gaming than Intel, and it looks to continue into Dual Core.

4-The graphics card will be just as powerful? Or, more so.
see answer to above question
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post #51 of 89
6/14/05 at 8:53am
Since it will have a socked 939, will the Turion be an option...?
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post #52 of 89
6/14/05 at 1:09pm
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Originally Posted by JoeCanuck
Since it will have a socked 939, will the Turion be an option...?
Not at the moment, because the Turion64 is a Socket 754 processor. But you can put in a normal Athlon64 with Winchester or Venice core (they have a max. TDP of 67W). Less heat in comparison to the max. TDP of 110W of the Athlon64 X2.

DivX Encoding is only a problem in the THG dual core test. They run the four programms at the same time and on the AMD system the encoding tool gets a lower priority (so it has not encoded as much as the Intel system). THG is searching for a reason of that strange behavior.
But in other Dual core roundups the new A64 X2 owns the dual core P4 (there only one benchmark was executed at once).
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post #53 of 89
6/14/05 at 1:14pm
Rockdirect introduced the Xtreme 64 notebook (Clevo D900K) today:
http://www.rockdirect.com/news/06_06_05.htm

It is equiped with ATI Mobility Radeon X800XT and Athlon64 X2 or Athlon FX55 processor .
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post #54 of 89
6/14/05 at 2:15pm
NO ETA neither on rock direct or eurocom. It seems a sa long wait as eurocom always puts ETA to their "futur" products. just my .02c
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post #55 of 89
6/14/05 at 2:22pm
Looks like I was wrong....Turion only seems available in socket 754....well I'll be darned......
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post #56 of 89
6/15/05 at 12:44pm
I am close to ordering the D900T from Hypersonic, Boxx or Eurocom. The only problem with Eurocom is that they appear, on the surface, to be a few hundred dollars more than the other two resellers. BUT, I don't think sales tax will apply with shipments from Canada, so it may be a wash.

Here is my problem: I need a workstation laptop with OpenGL graphics (NVIDIA Quadro), dual hard drives @ 7200 RPM and want WindowsXP 64. Now that most all are offering XP 64, do I order now or wait for the AMD processor and the 100GB 7200 RPM drives. Eurocom is listing this unit as shipping August 01, 2005.

I don't mind waiting another few weeks since I have been searching and waiting for several months, but will I realize any advantages with the new AMD dual core processors? Don't know much about this and I think less than I did before I began my research.

I understand there are 'INTEL' fans and there are 'AMD' fans who believe their way is the only way. I also have noted that AMD seems to be, by far, preferred by 'gamers'. I am not a gamer, but need the best solution for 3d applications such as 3dMax, Revit, ADT, etc.
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post #57 of 89
6/15/05 at 1:09pm
Unless those apps are written for mulitple processors, or you are using 2+ app simultaniously the Dualcore will not make a difference. Also, unless those apps are written for Win 64 they will probably not run on Win 64. As far as for which processor is better well they are better in different areas. Try going to www.tomshardware.com there is a onrunning section that is testing both dualcores and alot of info on the architecture of them. Hope that helps cause it would take a week to write everything in a forum haha.
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post #58 of 89
6/15/05 at 3:26pm
MAX can take advantage of multiple processors
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post #59 of 89
6/16/05 at 12:44am
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Windows XP 64 bit (and 32 bit somewhat) will take advantage of dual cores, multitasking will be more efficient, you can run more programs independent of eachothers CPU load etc, like burning CDs while gaming...
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post #60 of 89
6/16/05 at 3:26pm
Well that its the same chasis is good.. I think if I have to gut system.. I may wait for this one to do it with..or just sell it and get another...duel core would be extremely nice to have..
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