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Apple soon to switch to Intel?

post #1 of 24
6/3/05 at 9:49pm
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Looks like the rumor is picking up more steam:
http://news.com.com/Apple+to+ditch+I...?tag=nefd.lede
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post #2 of 24
6/4/05 at 12:21am
:sigh:

While I've never seen this many rumours about Apple switching to x86 I seriously doubt it'll ever happen...at least not any time soon. I can bet two to one that Apple keeps a full working version of OS X running on x86 hardware as a plan B should anything ever happen, but I don't see anything happening that would make them consider using them yet.

If Apple does partner with Intel for something it'll probably be for chips for new iPods or a new Newton or something, or even contracting them to make and research G5 chips to give IBM some competition...you know, like Motorola was supposed to do.
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post #3 of 24
6/4/05 at 3:47am
Apple is not going to switch to the x86


Apple IS however switching to Intel for their future processors. Their lower end systems will be first in 2006, and then a total migration by 2007. Expect a official statement very soon.

EDIT Here is the link > http://news.com.com/Apple+to+ditch+I...tml?tag=cd.top
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post #4 of 24
6/4/05 at 1:36pm
Um...Intel's future processors will be x86.
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post #5 of 24
6/4/05 at 2:14pm
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Originally Posted by scott123
Apple is not going to switch to the x86


Apple IS however switching to Intel for their future processors. Their lower end systems will be first in 2006, and then a total migration by 2007. Expect a official statement very soon.

EDIT Here is the link > http://news.com.com/Apple+to+ditch+I...tml?tag=cd.top
did u read the article intels cpu will alwyas stay x86 and apple stated that osx can easily run on an x86 machine. apple is screwed and if it wasnt for the ipod they would not be in the same position. honeslty when they switch to x86 machine there would be no point in paying an extra 1000 dollars for something that is the same if you can get it so much cheaper. every machine will run osx because they all use the same cpu. its going to be almost impossible if apple uses the same cpu for there machine to keep osx for themsleves. the rumors were true expet osx for pc 06 latest 07.
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post #6 of 24
6/4/05 at 3:16pm
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Originally Posted by Laptop&lt View Post
did u read the article intels cpu will alwyas stay x86 and apple stated that osx can easily run on an x86 machine. apple is screwed and if it wasnt for the ipod they would not be in the same position. honeslty when they switch to x86 machine there would be no point in paying an extra 1000 dollars for something that is the same if you can get it so much cheaper. every machine will run osx because they all use the same cpu. its going to be almost impossible if apple uses the same cpu for there machine to keep osx for themsleves. the rumors were true expet osx for pc 06 latest 07.
No, I posted the link after my origional post.
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post #7 of 24
6/4/05 at 9:28pm
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Originally Posted by Laptop&lt View Post
did u read the article intels cpu will alwyas stay x86 and apple stated that osx can easily run on an x86 machine. apple is screwed and if it wasnt for the ipod they would not be in the same position. honeslty when they switch to x86 machine there would be no point in paying an extra 1000 dollars for something that is the same if you can get it so much cheaper. every machine will run osx because they all use the same cpu. its going to be almost impossible if apple uses the same cpu for there machine to keep osx for themsleves. the rumors were true expet osx for pc 06 latest 07.

If Apple ever did switch to x86, you can bet your ass that it would either be a modified processor that would be incompatible with everything else or they would bring back the physical ROM chip like the original Macs had.

Not only that, but I doubt OS X would be compatible with PC BIOS anyway. OpenFirmware is a much better solution than BIOS, and would probably be a requirement for OS X on x86.
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post #8 of 24
6/5/05 at 2:57am
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Originally Posted by Kakaze
If Apple ever did switch to x86, you can bet your ass that it would either be a modified processor that would be incompatible with everything else or they would bring back the physical ROM chip like the original Macs had.

Not only that, but I doubt OS X would be compatible with PC BIOS anyway. OpenFirmware is a much better solution than BIOS, and would probably be a requirement for OS X on x86.
sounds very provoking but then what games will it run see jsut a waste of cpu speed for ntothing. Well duh apple finally relazied that there cpus are useless agaisnt pc cpu it took them 20years for them to figure that out wow...even the pentium m will beat any dual 2.5ghz any day but back to the topic..intel will not make any speical cpu for apple but as you said they may add some features that allows there cpu to run mac osc maybe it can run both? With enchaced virus protection then that will catch my eye. It can be resit to viruses and almost impossible to get one and caould play all the games you would with a windows. Then i would say it is worth the extra 500+ bucks!
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post #9 of 24
6/5/05 at 3:03am
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Originally Posted by Laptop&lt View Post
sounds very provoking but then what games will it run see jsut a waste of cpu speed for ntothing. Well duh apple finally relazied that there cpus are useless agaisnt pc cpu it took them 20years for them to figure that out wow...even the pentium m will beat any dual 2.5ghz any day but back to the topic..intel will not make any speical cpu for apple but as you said they may add some features that allows there cpu to run mac osc maybe it can run both? With enchaced virus protection then that will catch my eye. It can be resit to viruses and almost impossible to get one and caould play all the games you would with a windows. Then i would say it is worth the extra 500+ bucks!
Off topic but damn man, learn to type. Either hit up Mavis Beacon or just take English over again. You're rants against Apple just aren't understandable and trying to comprehend what you are saying is giving me a headache.
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post #10 of 24
6/5/05 at 3:13am
Nabisco, thank you for making me laugh. That made my night.

Laptop, you're a ****ing idiot if you think a Pentium M can beat a dual 2.5 Ghz PowerMac. Pentium Ms are powerful chips, but they aren't powerful enough to beat a Dual processor system. As for the rest of your post; go take some basic English classes and come back when you know what the **** you're trying to say.
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post #11 of 24
6/5/05 at 3:19am
Lol, it had to be said. I didn't want to be the one to say it, but it gets to a point where if you want to critize Apple, first at least know what you are talking about, and for gods sake, deliver it with correct english so we can understand where you are coming from. No one can take you seriously if they can't understand your post. Discussing your opinions about Apple and what you feel is their flaws is perfectly fine, but learn how to type it so we don't take you for an idiot.

Anyways, on topic, I hope this isn't true. Come Monday, it will be known.
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post #12 of 24
6/5/05 at 6:20am
I'm mixed about my feelings.

On the one hand, PowerPC is a better architecture than x86. It's more efficient, more scaleable, and doesn't suffer from all the legacy crap that x86 has.

On the other hand, a PowerBook with a Pentium M inside of it would be so much more powerful than the G4s.

The same thing happened with IBM that happened with Motorola. For years Motorola sat on their hands and did as little as possible to upgrade their PPC chips. Meanwhile IBM was doing new stuff like crazy. Now that they don't have to compete with Motorola—Freescale doesn't seem to be like they're much competition—they seem to be just sitting on their hands as well. A year after the G5s were introed we were supposed to have 3 GHz chips. It's been what, three years now and we've only just now gotten past 2.5.
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post #13 of 24
6/7/05 at 2:22am
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Originally Posted by Kakaze
If Apple ever did switch to x86, you can bet your ass that it would either be a modified processor that would be incompatible with everything else or they would bring back the physical ROM chip like the original Macs had.

Not only that, but I doubt OS X would be compatible with PC BIOS anyway. OpenFirmware is a much better solution than BIOS, and would probably be a requirement for OS X on x86.
Unfortunately they're not going to be open firmware.
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post #14 of 24
6/7/05 at 3:34am
So welcome to the dark side gentlemen! Apple has come over it seems for sure!
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post #15 of 24
6/7/05 at 3:43am
Those who say Apple is now in the mainstream have a point. The huge success of the iPod has made Apple a much bigger company than they would like to admit, and it the laptop market, the real niche machines that work better than most of the other stuff out there are made by Asus and LG, and they're built with the same processors as everything else. Apple will have to prove that it can continue its reputation for quality by making superior products even when based on the same processors as the others out there. Otherwise, their comparitively small market share is going to become smaller as the reasons for paying more for an Apple disappear.
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post #16 of 24
6/7/05 at 11:27am
With OSX being ported to the x86 architecture, it will only be a matter of time till hacks find a way to allow it to run on any pc than just the Apple branded hardware. When that happens Apple finally becoms a software/ipod company.
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post #17 of 24
6/7/05 at 2:38pm
With OSX running on x86 will gaming be more feasible and comparable to that of a PC or will there be any limitations in OSX that will hinder it? Sorry if it's been discussed before, I'm just too lazy to search.
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post #18 of 24
6/7/05 at 3:38pm
Now that OS X is going to be run on x86 chips, it'll be possible for WINE and it's variants—such as Cedega—to be ported over which will allow Windows gaming just like on Linux.

Also, it will be possible to dual boot a new Mac with Windows so you don't even have to worry about WINE or anything if you don't want to.
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post #19 of 24
6/7/05 at 4:07pm
I hope not. I'd rather pay for a dedicated Mac version than just run windows games.
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post #20 of 24
6/7/05 at 4:18pm
Hmm... I don't know what's worse M$ trying to push their OS everywhere even mobile phones or Linux freaks making Linux run on their Nintendo DS and microwave ovens.

(FYI, I'm not one of M$'s biggest fans either)
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