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Sager NP3880 Review

post #1 of 15
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For a list of specs, see my signature below.

First off, I don't consider myself a "gamer" anymore so if you're looking for detailed specs on overclocking and whatnot, you won't find them here.

Intro:
My 3880-V was bought from PCTorque whom I would describe as a hassle-free retailer. Luke contacted me several times, keeping me abreast of any developments in my order. It was ordered on the 16th of May, shipped on the 23rd, and recieved on the 27th. I ordered the Targus 312 backpack which came packed along with the notebook, in a surrounding box.

Packing:
The packing was very sufficient. The notebook comes embraced in styofoam inside a sturdy cardboard carrier-case, inside another box, inside the large box filled with peanuts and the backpack. The outer box was cruched because of the large amount of space along with the backpack, but this did not affect the notebook's box at all. It is typical with UPS, in my experience.

Backpack:
The Targus 312 is very roomy. The notebook fits snuggly into the padded slot, battery and all. There is a mesh pocket for the AC adapter and cord in front of the slot - but all sides of the slot are padded, so there is little risk of scratching or anything. The pack fits snuggly onto my back, has an upper clasp strap across my chest, and another buckle around my waist. Even with no buckles clipped it is quite comfortable. The pack has a cell-phone pocket attached to one of the shoulder straps. My favorite thing about the pack is how it suspends the notebook up from the bottom about 3-4 inches so if you drop the backpack slightly, the notebook will be safe. In summary, I highly recomend getting one of these backpacks because the price is very reasonable, it is functional, and it protects the notebook well.

Cosmetic Design:
There has been a lot of talk on the forums about the protruding battery. To tell you the truth, I have forgotten all about it. I never see it, for one thing, since I am in front of the computer and not facing the rear of it when it's in use. I also like the fact that it sits an an angle, and I can imagine the increased wrist discomfort if it was flat like most other notebooks. Every time I open this notebook in front of others they all gawk and say how awesome it looks. The widescreen adds to it's "professional" look, as well as the mirror logo on the front. I seriously doubt anyone would be displeased with the cosmetic design.

Function Design:
There are two USB ports on the left side and one on the right side. The right side does not get much use because I usually have my mouse there. There is a 4-in-1 card reader on the left-front that has come in handy several times. In the center-front, there are three large buttons for controlling the Wireless, Mail, and Bluetooth functions, none of which I have pressed yet. The scroll pad is tight and responsive, and the vertical scroller button is handy, but I haven't quite got used to it. The built in camera is fun, but as of yet, I haven't had any real use for it. There is no flex in the case. The keyboard does feel a little 'springy' when I press down on the keys harder than the need to be pressed.

Performance:
As mentioned above, I'm not really a true gamer, so ultra-fast performance wasn't a big issue with me. At first, I was really interested in the 7620, but realized I wasn't in the market for a desktop-replacement. It will be sitting on my desk for long periods, but it will also be lugged around campus on pretty much a daily basis. So if anyone is looking for a multimedia machine, look elsewhere. Portablity and performance can be balanced, but you're not going to have the best of both worlds in one machine. With that said, I ran 1 benchmarking program for the fun of it and these are the results:
Aquamark 3
GFX 4,446
CPU 9,979
Total 36,369

I have no idea what this means. Take it for what it's worth. I also ran the Trees of Pangaea, Final Fantasy XI, and rthdribl demos. None of them gave me scores, but they looked pretty sweet except for the FF demo, which didn't really impress me greatly.

Heat:
I don't have any temps to give, but I can say that the left palm area gets the most hot, but even during high CPU stress it is negligible. While writing this review right now it is slightly uncomfortable if I hold my palm firm down on it, but that's not the natural position anyhow.

Noise:
This machine is very, very quite. I had expected a noisy computer given the readings done by PCTorque, but it is so quite I don't even hear it at all unless I am in a quiet library or if the fan RPM goes up during a game or something. The disk drive stays very quiet during DVD playback, as well.

Screen:
I love WSXGA! And I love widescreen. I love it so much I have not even set up my desktop since we've moved in our new apartment. Only 1 dead pixel! And it's in the extreme lower-left corner, and is not even visible unless there is some green or yellow color covering the whole area and even then I would never notice it anyway.

Portability:
I would definently encourage anyone who needs a portable notebook for school to get this model. I think it meets the portability/performance balance very well. When in the backpack, it doesn't feel any heavier than a big, heavy textbook.

Battery:
The battery is a little dissapointing considering that it is a 12-cell. While doing tasks like email, Word, etc., it lasts about 4.5-5 hours. While playing a DVD, it will get about 3.5 hours.

Summary:
I couldn't be happier with my vendor, purchase, and end product. I have no major complaints, no unexpected problems, no pet-peeves whatsoever. The negative aspects of my review are what I consider to be minor and do not alter my overall impression. I would highly recommend this model (3880) for a student or employee on-the-go who wants good performance, reasonable battery life, sleek looks and a great quality screen.


P.S. PCTorque didn't have the Bluetooth module in at ordering time, so they are shipping it to me free of charge. (I presume)
post #2 of 15
sounds sweet....im liking what i am hearing so far. this si really making the 3880 pull out and making me want it even more.
post #3 of 15
how is it when you type? while i like the idea that the laptop is lifted up, which helps with air circulation.. the angle could be felt on your hands.. does it hurt after typing for a while?
post #4 of 15
4.5-5 hours of battery life just surfing the net...wow. I get mine today, I can't wait for the guy in the brown shorts to show up.
post #5 of 15
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowman
how is it when you type? while i like the idea that the laptop is lifted up, which helps with air circulation.. the angle could be felt on your hands.. does it hurt after typing for a while?
It doesn't hurt at all. I think it would be worse without the angle.
post #6 of 15
Benchmarks would be great
post #7 of 15
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Yesterday I went to San Francisco for a convention, and of course, took my notebook with me. I booted it up (on a fully-charged 12 cell battery) at the hotel room and my screen started to go on the fritz. First of all, the computer will not boot beyond the login flash screen, and the screen resembles a fuzzy patchwork of colors randomly placed. Since it only happens while running on the battery, im thinking its a voltage problem, and hopefully the problem is localized to the battery. Ive contacted Luke at PCTorque and will be interested to hear what they have to suggest. Hopefully this is just a small matter, as I love this computer!

With that said, I recieved the Bluetooth module but won't be installing it until I get this problem sorted out... I dont want to risk the chance of voiding any warranty.
post #8 of 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tetrismaster
Benchmarks would be great
AquaMark 3: 36,369.
3DMark 05: 2,137
post #9 of 15
My Laptop:
Sager 3880-C
1.86 Ghz
1024 RAM
1280x800 glossy screen (0 dead pixels)
Bluetooth
My own install of XP Pro.
Using RMClock for processor management, full speed when plugged in, slowest speed when on battery.
Also using Riva tuner for video card overclock, just tested for optimal settings, 377/765 is what it put me at, I'm sure it will go a little higher though.

Aquamark3 Demo w/ standard settings:
GFX - 5,776
CPU - 10,168
Overall - 45,115
AVG TPS - 13,581,319
AVG FPS - 45.12

Runs all the WmvHD.com demos perfectly at 1080p (720p also), no audio skip what-so-ever

I get about 5-5.5 hours while surfing on the battery, and about 3.5 while watching movies. The only problem I can see with it is the viewing angle on the glossy screen seems a little picky.. While reading text, you need to look at it straight on or it will bother your eyes. I'm not sure if the same applies to the upgraded screens.

Overall, I'm very happy with my purchase, this is one powerful machine.
post #10 of 15
Quote:
Originally Posted by grimstuff
Yesterday I went to San Francisco for a convention, and of course, took my notebook with me. I booted it up (on a fully-charged 12 cell battery) at the hotel room and my screen started to go on the fritz. First of all, the computer will not boot beyond the login flash screen, and the screen resembles a fuzzy patchwork of colors randomly placed. Since it only happens while running on the battery, im thinking its a voltage problem, and hopefully the problem is localized to the battery. Ive contacted Luke at PCTorque and will be interested to hear what they have to suggest. Hopefully this is just a small matter, as I love this computer!

With that said, I recieved the Bluetooth module but won't be installing it until I get this problem sorted out... I dont want to risk the chance of voiding any warranty.
Try going into the video card's settings, Display Properties, Settings, Advanced, Geforce Go 6600.. Then select the PowerMizer option, when I set the battery mode to Maximum power savings, I get the patchwork, but when it's set to balanced or max performance, everything's gravy.
post #11 of 15
When you say heat, how hot are we talking?

My 3790's left wristrest gets hot enough to make me sweat while I'm using the notebook. It's way way way too hot (IMO), and I'm going to be getting rid of it soon.
post #12 of 15
I've got a Thermo-pen it's a laser light that measures heat. I use it for BBQ measurement to find out how hot the surface temp of the grill is for my smoked meats. The left wrist pad after palying Doom3 for an hour at max settings, I have a WXUGA on my 3880, is between 93 and 98 degrees . Not too hot just body temp. The screen is 87 and the right wrist pad is 88-90. All these are in fahrenheit of course.
post #13 of 15
Thread Starter 
Does any one have any idea how to install the Bluetooth module in the 3880? I opened up all three rear entry points and found no obvious place to install it.
post #14 of 15
if you OC the 3800 so it matches up with the 4800 roughly, can you still play games for extended periods of time without having to let it cool down. Are the fans able to handle the load. Also is the 3880 really 1.85inch think or does that include the battery hanging out.
post #15 of 15

Your screen problem on battery ever get resolved?

Quote:
Originally Posted by grimstuff
First of all, the computer will not boot beyond the login flash screen, and the screen resembles a fuzzy patchwork of colors randomly placed. Since it only happens while running on the battery, im thinking its a voltage problem, and hopefully the problem is localized to the battery. Ive contacted Luke at PCTorque and will be interested to hear what they have to suggest.
grimstuff, your problem ever get fixed? Did you try gainpresence's idea of disabling any video card power saving features in Windows or maybe in BIOS? I don't have a 3880, but I am considering. Curious to hear any updates.
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