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CPU temperature monitoring is now possible

post #1 of 44
Thread Starter 
How do I monitor the cpu temperature in the Sager 56xx?

This question has been raised many times, and I am glad to finally have the answer. I hope you find it useful.

See this post.
post #2 of 44
With AIM, Winamp, and Opera running after a reboot I'm running around 54-56 degrees C. Also in my background I have Norton Antivirus, Rainlendar, but nothing too big going. It seems that the fans turn up higher on at 55. I haven't played around with the battery saver yet but my temperature seems a little high. I figured this is the best place to put results because the thread isn't cluttered.

I'll break down my stats:
These are at 2.6 with HT (Full Blast for me)
Normal Usage (Browsing, Music, Chatting): 55
Playing Halo: 66 with Fans incredibly loud
post #3 of 44
sounds kinda warm for a p4 to me.
my athlon runs cooler than that
post #4 of 44
Thread Starter 
Schuler, good idea to start posting some results here so people can compare. Maybe your temp is a little high, but not much, I guess many of the Sagers out there are running hotter than yours. Try to vacuum clean the vents, doing that lowered my idle temp with 2 degrees

I have a 5660 with 3.06 GHz with HT enabled.

Normal (light) use is 50-55
When idleing for a while it drops to 47
The max temp I have measured is 83 when running CPU Burn for 20 minutes.

The cooling scheme on my 5660 looks like this, the fans have three modes off,medium and full.

full->medium at 58
medium->off at 47

off->medium at 58
medium->full at 70

The cpu cant get cooler than 47 because when the fans turns off the temp starts to rise again.
post #5 of 44
Vacuumming my vents has done alot so far =D

I managed to vacuum it down to 37...hehe. It's climbed it's way back up but with the normal processes I said before. Programming, Chatting, music, and a tad of browsing. It's down to 45, however the fans are on still. Bottom line is vacuum your fans out! Lots of dust accumulates in my dorm room.
post #6 of 44
I think mine's broken. It's been sitting around 72-80 degrees quite often while doing nothing more than working in Photoshop. Occasionally It will just flat out shut off in the middle of my work. It's been doing this more and more recently, especially while watching a DVD or DIVX. I just installed that temperature monitor last night, so I'll keep an eye on it and see how hot it gets before it shuts off.

Specs:
NP5660 2.53GHz P4, 512MB DDR, Radeon 9000
post #7 of 44
BurntSky, try vacumning your vents out, maybe a little reverse air blast (but be gentle, no heavy duty air compressors). See it that doesn't help get the temps down.

I almost feel like putting a filter on my machine. I saw a mod for that on a desktop. They used some HEPA filters from a vacumn machine. Started changing them once a month, they were really surprised how dirty they got. Of course, they were running that machine 24/7 but it was in a laboratory too, wouldn't think there would be that much dust around.
post #8 of 44
I just vacuumed them out; it was quite cool to begin with (about 55) but i managed to get it down to about 37 and it's been sitting around 40-45 for the last 10 minutes or so. Hopefully this fixed the overheating problem, but we'll see.
post #9 of 44

awesome

awesome program henrik you roxer

looks like my cpu on idle gets as low as 39 C when the fan turns on then it turns off then rises up to 47 and the fans turn on

So when im idle it goes up and down between 39 and 47 like a yoyo

I'm wondering is there any way to make the fans be on all the time?

I don't much care about power or sound all that much I'm plugged into a wall 90% of the time.
post #10 of 44
Do you guys have any processes going on in the background? I leave it on overnight with AIM, and my antivirus running. Nothing much else and the temperature fluctuates between 40's when fans are on..and slowly move back up towards the 50's where the fans turn back on? This was when I had just cleaned out the fans. Do you guys have similar processes running? I'm wondering why my runs higher than the usual. It just could be the size of my room and the lack of circulation it gets, but almost 10 degrees C difference.
post #11 of 44
I don't think the size of your room would make that much difference, unless its a closet. But ambient temperature could make a big difference. Like me, my ambient temperature is usually around 30C. Henrik, during the winter, might have 20. 10 degrees right there.

Humidity could play a factor too, but I would suspect that would be in the less than 5 degree category. Maybe only 1 or 2 degrees. High humidity air can carrry more heat for a given temperature difference but its also usually already saturated with heat and it takes more time to get that heat in there. Plus, being heavier, it doesn't move quite as fast. All this is really manini (small potatoes) compared to the actual ambient temps.

Another thing that could affect temps is the surface temp of whatever your machine is sitting on. After running a bit, the bottom heats up and begins to radiate heat towards that surface. So part of that gets reflected back to the machine, part of it gets absorbed and then transfers it to the incoming air by contact which then gets sucked up into the machine. The more room you can get under your machine, particularly to something that will either reflect radient heat or will absorb it and then heat the passing air going into the machine.

Ideally, you should have nothing under the machine. But that's difficult. So perhaps a type of mesh or grid that is a high absorbtion/low reflection/low emissivity material. This material should also be highly conductive and attached to some means of drawing the heat away, like a heat pipe. If this grid then had sides that closed off against the bottom of the machine and there were large areas that had HEPA filters in them, there would be very little drag on the fans and your machine would always get nice clean, cool air.

Maybe even provide some active cooling with a duct to a room AC, but you want to be careful there, get it too cold and condensation will become a problem. Moisture and electronics do not go together. But you could do a dehumidifier circuit too and then ... ... ....

Anyway, clean your machine, take a look at your ambient air temp and cleanliness (ie - is there an open window nearby with a busy road or a lot of blossoming flowers adjacent?).
post #12 of 44
I'm in a dorm room so it's small, and mine has a huge affinity for dust. It's like a large closet hehe, ok a little bigger. And my laptop just sits on the same wooden part of my desk.
post #13 of 44
Thread Starter 
MARQUISDARQUIS, its interesting to read your ideas here and in other threads as well. Yes you are correct I usually have about 20 degrees indoors, outdoors during the winter it is -30 degrees sometimes

It strikes me as amazing how much little differences in the cooling system can make a big difference. It all comes down to the importance of the airflow. I was going to study to fans more closely so I removed to bottom panel so the heatsink got exposed and I put the laptop on its right side, standing on the edge. I wanted to study the fans when they raised speed at 70, but I couldnt get the laptop to even reach 60 degrees, it ran about 20-25 degrees cooler at max workload than usual.
post #14 of 44
I use speed fan! yes speedfan search it on google or something then download it its pretty cool because you can set it to Fahrenheit instead or Celsius and moitor fans and such! hope it works out well
post #15 of 44
Thread Starter 
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Originally posted by Beachbum
I use speed fan! yes speedfan search it on google or something then download it its pretty cool because you can set it to Fahrenheit instead or Celsius and moitor fans and such! hope it works out well
Speed fan, or any other temp monitoring utility except mine does not work with sagers/clevo clones. Thats why I made it.
post #16 of 44
o i c i will have to download the other
post #17 of 44
Henrik, I'm the guy that uses your utilities on a Sager 8890...they still work, and I'm the one that suggested some additional things to build. If you are looking for 8890 owners to try your all-in-one utility...I will happily do it. When you have a binary to share...just let us know.
post #18 of 44
Thread Starter 
Great 1_of_9, youre on the list

I have been investigating a lot into changeing core voltage as you suggested, I have for sure learnt a lot and I am not yet completely done, its a interesting combination with a mobile chipset and a desktop cpu.
post #19 of 44
Noticed you are looking for some skins as well. I am a photographer, but can build you a gui, or series of gui's to go with the utility. I just need a set of dimensions, and button layout pattern map...x pixels wide by y pixels high...etc.
post #20 of 44
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The basic form will be 400x300, so you can use a downscaled wallpaper. The form will have rounded corners and possibly some holes in it for fancy looks. I will use two images, one for the background and one transparent overlay for the buttons/text/logo etc. This makes it easy to change language by only change the overlay. The buttons,sliders and other components size and position will be fixed, in the first version anyway. Hope this helps. I will get back to you as soon there is something to show.
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