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post #21 of 44
11/5/03 at 6:20pm
Hey Henrik... is your little program playing the Matrix Revolutions trailer audio or is my sager going nuts?

Okay, I've got a slight problem. The computer, when it idles, runs around 58 C! I can tell that it is the fans being blocked, but I do not have the right equipment...

I am lacking in a vacuum (because I am in college dorms - the vacuums here just suck), and I don't have any sort of air blaster. The best I can do is a q tip, but I am not sure how I can use that to get all the dust free. Any tips?
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post #22 of 44
11/5/03 at 7:07pm
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Originally posted by rk_cr
Hey Henrik... is your little program playing the Matrix Revolutions trailer audio or is my sager going nuts?

Okay, I've got a slight problem. The computer, when it idles, runs around 58 C! I can tell that it is the fans being blocked, but I do not have the right equipment...

I am lacking in a vacuum (because I am in college dorms - the vacuums here just suck), and I don't have any sort of air blaster. The best I can do is a q tip, but I am not sure how I can use that to get all the dust free. Any tips?
Hi there,
This is precisely why I decided to make the program. It seems to me that there are two major topics on this forum and those are 1. dead pixels and 2. warm/hot computer. I'm happy that my program can help on the second one. Now you have the tool to get an objective measurement of the temperature and to compare the readings with others.

Your idle temp sure is a little bit high, what are your processor spec? I think what you need is a good vacuum cleaning, someone reported that doing that lowered the idle temp with 12 degrees. However I am in no way any expert in cleaning, I can tell you that by looking at my desk :-) So, I cant help you out on that one, maybe the other forum members have any ideas?
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post #23 of 44
11/5/03 at 7:37pm
Solved the problem on my own, actually... Turns out you don't need a vacuum cleaner after all. I opened up the bottom panel and gently blew air through the side vent, and that got THREE gigantic dust bunnies out (one was so large it wouldn't fit through the fan - I had to pull pieces of it out with tweezers). I used some qtips to do some general cleaning of the fans (just to avoid any future blockage) but the main solution was to blow air through it.

The system fluctuates around 41 C now, when just doing web browsing/chatting/word processing.
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post #24 of 44
11/5/03 at 8:01pm
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Originally posted by rk_cr
Solved the problem on my own, actually... Turns out you don't need a vacuum cleaner after all. I opened up the bottom panel and gently blew air through the side vent, and that got THREE gigantic dust bunnies out (one was so large it wouldn't fit through the fan - I had to pull pieces of it out with tweezers). I used some qtips to do some general cleaning of the fans (just to avoid any future blockage) but the main solution was to blow air through it.

The system fluctuates around 41 C now, when just doing web browsing/chatting/word processing.
17 degrees cooler now, not bad
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post #25 of 44
11/5/03 at 8:24pm
How about Photoshop documents with three layers. One for the Background, a transparent one for the buttons, and a transparent one for the text? Can you tell me what all the functions of the utility will do? And I can get started then.
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post #26 of 44
11/6/03 at 6:36am
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This is the planned functionality, hope I remember it all

version 1

Show CPU temp
Show CPU workload
Show min/avg/max temp since last reset, and a reset button
Show a "cool index" that measure the efficiency of the selected "cooling scheme", possibly calculated by avg temp divided by avg workload, or maybe some more clever algorithm
Cpu temp and workload also in a graph so you can see history like in task manager

Show actual heat-downthrottling
Enable forced downthrottling like in battery saver

Three possibilites of fan control
1. no control, let bios take care of it
2. forced fixed fanspeed
3. select a previous defined cooling scheme

A defined cooling scheme have the following properties
1. Name
2. Any number of thermal trip points
3. The new fan speed if the trip point is passed going up
4. The new fan speed if the trip point is passed going down
5. All fan speeds are 0-100 percent


Future versions may also include

Show harddrive temp
GPU-clocker
Tweaking of memory timings
Better cooling logic with not only thermal trip points, but also workload and temp change speed


I hope I made myself clear, feel free to design it as you see fit best, and also change some of terminology if needed, and suggestions of added functionality are always welcome, your three layer suggestions seems fine to me

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post #27 of 44
12/27/03 at 5:10pm
Just to let you know, I've tried the programs out on a 4780. The tvichw program causes a fatal application exit. I think it may be due to the differant chipset/bios in the 4780, any ideas?
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post #28 of 44
12/28/03 at 7:19pm

Wintemp eats CPU like hell on my 4780

Henrik,

Well, the Wintemp program works (sort of, or it tries to work) on my 4780 but
it seems to eat CPU-cycles like hell...

CPU is hovering at ~50-55% and it does heat the CPU because when I lanch
your app., temp starts at ~42 Celsius and climbs to 55 Celsius.

Also, most of the time it says "Temperature (Not Responding)" in the title
bar and sometimes it goes really - and I mean really - weird!
ie.: from 55C it goes to -130C and then 81C, next 56C, etc, etc...

Phew, just got a max readout of 4305C!!!
Okay, it just dropped to 51C

Almost forgot to mention, I'm testing it without using the supplied registration entries.

Hope my comments will contribute to your great work

Manuel
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post #29 of 44
12/29/03 at 1:09am
hmm, sounds like something to try. maybe it can give henrik a 'leg up' in getting his program to work with the 4780 series. I wonder if his program will work with the 8790, considering that both the 56x0 and 8790 all use intel chipsets
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post #30 of 44
12/29/03 at 3:21am
how are you guys vacumming your laptop? Are you literally holding a vaccum up to your vent? What about those compressed air bottles with the fine tips... would those work?
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post #31 of 44
12/29/03 at 9:41am
Is it possible to monitor/regulate GPU temperature ?
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post #32 of 44
2/29/04 at 11:28pm
Who has a working link to Henrik's program.
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post #33 of 44
3/1/04 at 3:56pm

Me too

I would also like a link to the program...all of the current links say "file not found"
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post #34 of 44
3/1/04 at 7:41pm
I can't say anything about Henrik's program so far, since I've never tried that.

But there is another one called MobileMeter which should work for Clevos (Sagers) too and which is much easier to handle, since it doesn't need any driver installation. - You may want to search after some english localized version of it... since I'll point you here to it's usual origins only:

http://dssc3031.ece.cmu.edu/~tamaru/...obilemeter.htm

http://www.geocities.co.jp/SiliconValley-Oakland/8259/
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post #35 of 44
3/1/04 at 8:04pm
OMFG it works on my 4780!
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post #36 of 44
3/1/04 at 8:35pm
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Originally Posted by Beachbum
OMFG it works on my 4780!
Well, I wouldn't have named that util here for all of you if it wouldn't work...
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post #37 of 44
3/2/04 at 1:06am
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Originally Posted by krobotkin
I can't say anything about Henrik's program so far, since I've never tried that.

But there is another one called MobileMeter which should work for Clevos (Sagers) too and which is much easier to handle, since it doesn't need any driver installation. - You may want to search after some english localized version of it... since I'll point you here to it's usual origins only:

http://dssc3031.ece.cmu.edu/~tamaru/...obilemeter.htm

http://www.geocities.co.jp/SiliconValley-Oakland/8259/

hmmmm Im not sure how well this program works. I loaded up vb and made an infinite loop prog and the fans started blasting but the program only registered 61 degrees. I can'y exactly test it as I could never get Henrik's prog to work.
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post #38 of 44
3/2/04 at 7:19am
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Originally Posted by Bracol7
hmmmm Im not sure how well this program works. I loaded up vb and made an infinite loop prog and the fans started blasting but the program only registered 61 degrees. I can'y exactly test it as I could never get Henrik's prog to work.

AFAIK from other 5680 users in europe it works for the Clevo D5x0P series and maybe thus for the D800P series (Sager 8890) etc. too and it should show nearly correct values, at least the Clevo users I comunicated with said this.

However, I don't have right yet any Sager (Clevo) since I'am still waiting for my ordered device to arrive one day. So I can't actually make any deeper tests myself here with this tool.
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post #39 of 44
3/11/04 at 6:09am
MobileMeter works like a charm on my D500P/5680 ... It shows all thermal and frequency data without a single problem and looks pretty as well...

Thanks a lot for the link, krobotkin!!!

Rgds,
Vic256
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post #40 of 44
3/11/04 at 11:23am
After using it more, it seems to be working very nicely. I just wasn't sure of normal tempuratures. Thanks man.
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