Dell has a 9600XT in their laptop - Where is Sagers?

man...

DUDE, they JUST came out with the 5680s and 8xxx!! If they did it this way, theyd always be waiting for the next best thing and NEVER get anything out...man, soo impatient we are!!

XT = PRO, sager already has them

Yeah.. this is nothing but Dell renaming crap.

Remember the 9700TX? yeah, that was just a 9700np...

then doesnt that tell you that the XT may be NOTHING MORE THAN A NAMING SCHEME?

The XT IS nothing more than a higher clocked pro. If Sager needs to, they can clock up our chips and call it a XT too, since that is all that is required.

For laptops, we still DO have the latest and greatest. The Dell is vaporware (have you tried using that code yet? ), so who cares. If you want an XT, OC!

can you post the specs of the XT thanks

THERE IS NO 9600XT MOBILE CHIP!!!!!!!!.

This is very very possible, and what I expect is likely from Dell.

However, if the XT 1) does indeed exist but hasn't been announced by ATI as a mobile chip yet; 2) is the true mobile XT that others have described; 3) will be used by Dell...then it isn't the same as just an overclocked Pro. It generates less heat and has lower power consumption.

All the others have described is rumors, based off desktop XTs. DOnt you think that ATI would have launched all 3 XTs at the same time, so OTHER companies could get it too?

Sigh.. but, i guess people will belive anything....

post us the 3dmark scores off the XT from dell you have right now.



LOL, didn't think so.

Like I said it is very likely to not exist at all. I was just playing devil's advocate.

Ok this is taken directly from email from ATI

So what we see here is that ATI does not hard set its clock speeds. Clock speeds are determined by what will run stabily. Stability comes from staying cool. This is why you can liquid cool a GPU and run it far above "the specs". People in this forum are already running the 5680/8890 at the supposed XT speeds. In addition the ATI mobile page makes no mention of an 9600XT mobile chip - it does mention the desktop version along the SIDE of the page. Add to that the latest interview with the ATI public spam guy where he mentions the M11 but makes no reference to the 9600XT.

I cannot believe people will

a) believe a photo in these days of photoshop
b) believe a French photo

Thats it! I am sending my 8890 with it's measley old crusty 9600 pro back and I am gettin one of those tx ...er xt ...whatever thingy's cause they gotta be faster cause they got a x in the name!

Everything that is cool and fast and cutting edge has a x in the name. I GOTTA GET ME A 9600 with a X in it!

I know it exists for the desktop - I never questioned that. This however is a moot point because it sure as hell doesnt exist as a mobile chip - and like I said unless the memory used on the chip is vastly changed this is simply a matter of cooling and overclocking.

If they are using the same process and ATI is overclocking a standard pro to 500mhz, then you would NOT be able to clock the XT much mroe above that level because it is already running at it max speed.

The XT is different in NAME and what ATI has set for its default clock speed. I garuntee you will pay less for a 9600pro which will run at XT speeds just as well and for half the price.

This is what ATI did with the 9500 and the 9700. ATI needed a low end card so they could reach the lowend market, so they took the defective 9700's, lowered the clock to make them work properly and sold them! Just so happens that many 9500s CAN run at 9700 speeds (like mine does), so I got a 9700 for 9500 price. It may be an older card, but it scores jut as good as the 9700 and even the 9600 in some spots.

i think the argument was about the existence of the mobility version of the 9600xt and not the desktop version. based on ur logic...shouldn't there also be a 9700 mobile...or even a 9800 mobile? i honestly do not know if a 9600xt mobile will come out...but do i care? no...not really. as long as my lappy can do what i want....then having the latest and greatest doesn't bother me. i'm just assuming that the xt will feature faster clock speeds...but that would also make my laptop hotter and/or the fans louder.

Oh dear...

Well, I have a 9700... my friend overclocked his 9500(to supposedly the same speed as my card) with almost the EXACT same system, and mine was definately faster, our benchmarks proved it. Anyways... I think its hilarious that you sager guys are freaking out so much... and yes you ARE freaking out.

Lets say this graphics card is real... dell has it... and yours isn't the best... then its not and thats the end... you guys freak out and keep saying how its just an overclocked Pro...
Now... if you guys had some XT model card, you'd say how much better it is than all the rest out there and how superior your systems are.

Sagers are very good machines, especially for the price, but are NOT superior to everything.

Theres plenty of good laptops out there. I think you guys get WAY too defensive just because someone mentions something good about another laptop. You take it as if they're saying yours sucks.

Its like my friend with a Mustang GT, who LOVES american cars... I love German cars, and so do several other friends of mine. Now if he reads a magazine article, and all it says, is "This *german/japanese* car has "this" or "that", and doesn't mention american cars at all... He takes offense and says something stupid like, "well american cars can do that" or "american cars are good too" "American cars could do that if they wanted to"

Its the same situation. You guys get defensive JUST because someone mentions something that could be good about another laptop. I'm sorry, i like you guys and everything, but sometimes you need to calm down, they're not attacking Sagers! Seems like you guys more likely attack everything thats not a Sager, "OMG THAT SCREEN SUCKS"

Sorry for the long post. This isn't a flame just an attempt to make order in here...