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9880 or XPS Gen 2

post #1 of 90
6/11/05 at 11:47am
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The Dell is still slightly faster with a 2.13 and a 6800 ultra right? Even if the 9880 can be speced out with a 3.8 and a 6800 ultra also?
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post #2 of 90
6/11/05 at 11:58am
xpsggen 2

consider all the other factors 2

like battery time , weight , thickness

xps gen 2 outperforms all other notebooks
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post #3 of 90
6/11/05 at 12:07pm
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Originally Posted by wizzywizzy
xpsggen 2

consider all the other factors 2

like battery time , weight , thickness

xps gen 2 outperforms all other notebooks
I'm just talking about performance in games though. I don't mind the weight and battery life.
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post #4 of 90
6/11/05 at 12:13pm
well there is performance ... and then there is quality. i know i will get spammed to hell and back for this, but ... i think dells are crappy, i've known so many people with them over the years that had so many problems ... i dunno ... just my opinion.
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post #5 of 90
6/11/05 at 12:19pm
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Originally Posted by mondu Construct
well there is performance ... and then there is quality. i know i will get spammed to hell and back for this, but ... i think dells are crappy, i've known so many people with them over the years that had so many problems ... i dunno ... just my opinion.
Eh, ZERO problems here on my Dells. Bro, consider this, if an overclocked Pentium M can run with an Athlon FX-55 that must mean something. The Pentium M may sound slow, but in gaming it will blow any P4 out of the water, hands down. All I can say is I love my iXPS 2 and I would have never ever got something louder, hotter and heavier then it. If you are looking for a true desktop replacement get the sager you will love it, if you are looking to play games most of the time, get the XPS.

Take a gander at my performance




^ the fps you see is what im getting with the settings listed above.
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post #6 of 90
6/11/05 at 12:23pm
christ dude that is sick. I can't imagine that!!
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post #7 of 90
6/11/05 at 12:45pm
the 9880 will be... more powerful, heavier, less battery life, more expensive, and better quality.(that is if you get the 3.8 the 3.6 i am not sure though)

thexp2 will be really powerful(still slightly less then Sager in games), really long battery life, realitively inexpensive, poor quality, poor technical support, and lighter then the 9880

You just have to balance what you want... plus i think its 10 times kewler to whip out a 9880 rather then whipping out a dell...
dell=everyone have
9880=more special
AND WE ALL WANT TO BE SPECIAL
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post #8 of 90
6/11/05 at 12:46pm
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Originally Posted by shoman24v
Eh, ZERO problems here on my Dells. Bro, consider this, if an overclocked Pentium M can run with an Athlon FX-55 that must mean something. The Pentium M may sound slow, but in gaming it will blow any P4 out of the water, hands down. All I can say is I love my iXPS 2 and I would have never ever got something louder, hotter and heavier then it. If you are looking for a true desktop replacement get the sager you will love it, if you are looking to play games most of the time, get the XPS.

Take a gander at my performance




^ the fps you see is what im getting with the settings listed above.
Dam n.... 35% how you do that? Isn't 30% highest coupon?
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post #9 of 90
6/11/05 at 12:59pm
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Originally Posted by AzN
Dam n.... 35% how you do that? Isn't 30% highest coupon?
Not when I ordered
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post #10 of 90
6/11/05 at 1:18pm
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Originally Posted by shoman24v
Eh, ZERO problems here on my Dells. Bro, consider this, if an overclocked Pentium M can run with an Athlon FX-55 that must mean something. The Pentium M may sound slow, but in gaming it will blow any P4 out of the water, hands down. All I can say is I love my iXPS 2 and I would have never ever got something louder, hotter and heavier then it. If you are looking for a true desktop replacement get the sager you will love it, if you are looking to play games most of the time, get the XPS.

Take a gander at my performance




^ the fps you see is what im getting with the settings listed above.
BTW, 16x doesnt give you the lowest FPS, and generally doesnt look the best. 8x AF generally gives you a better look, and lower FPS.
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post #11 of 90
6/11/05 at 2:19pm
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Originally Posted by Ouchemoma
the 9880 will be... more powerful, heavier, less battery life, more expensive, and better quality.(that is if you get the 3.8 the 3.6 i am not sure though)

thexp2 will be really powerful(still slightly less then Sager in games), really long battery life, realitively inexpensive, poor quality, poor technical support, and lighter then the 9880
For one.. no one has proven the 3.8 to be better in games.. I frankly doubt it, the P-M destroys the 3.6 in gaming, and what's .2ghz for a Pentium 4? What does beat the P-M are the Extreme Edition Pentium 4s, but that's to be expected..

Moving on.. can you attest to the XPS2's poor quality? I have yet to see one broken down, and mine is performing flawlessly. If you say poor quality because of the screen, then you might want to know that Clevo uses the same screen..

Really.. if you said the Sager is better at Video Editing/Benching/encoding which it is, I wouldn't argue with that, but please don't make false claims
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post #12 of 90
6/11/05 at 2:24pm
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Originally Posted by AzN
I'm just talking about performance in games though. I don't mind the weight and battery life.
If you want just performance then go for the 9880 with a 3.8 or 3.6 GHz CPU with the 6800 Ultra
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post #13 of 90
6/11/05 at 2:26pm
Michael.. he said games though.. the P-M beats the P4 in games(xept the Extreme Edition ones)
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post #14 of 90
6/11/05 at 2:46pm
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Originally Posted by JinXed
Michael.. he said games though.. the P-M beats the P4 in games(xept the Extreme Edition ones)
Doesn't the 9880 offer EE P4s?

Edit: nm it doesn't
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post #15 of 90
6/11/05 at 4:41pm
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post #16 of 90
6/11/05 at 5:04pm
Where are you getting your information the EE ones BEat the dothan overclocked one. and the overclocked dothan beats the other p4's but the bio's in the xps2 don't allow for over clockign so i don't know what you are talking about...

Could you send a link(preferably not tomshardware) backing up what you say? I mean if what you are saying is true then i'm all for it... But i havn't heard information that backs what you are saying up...
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post #17 of 90
6/11/05 at 5:14pm
Deja vu? Anyone?
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post #18 of 90
6/11/05 at 5:28pm
If batter life and heat are not issues (i.e., if you are using it as a DTR and have external cooling pad), then you will be much happier with a P4 with HT than a PM, especially in gaming, where even a 3.4 GHz P4 would easily beat a 2.13PM, when cooled properly. People run into problems with P4 performance, when cooling is not good enough and the CPU throttles often to lower clock speeds.
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post #19 of 90
6/11/05 at 5:29pm
Hardball.. any benchmarks to prove this?

And Ouchemoma.. reread my post............. I said the PM beats the 3.6Ghz P4 in games, and that I doubt a .2 difference will change the outcome. I clearly said that What beats the PM is the Extreme Edition Pentiums

EDIT* and no overclocking in either processors
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post #20 of 90
6/11/05 at 5:41pm
an OC'd xps2 destroys a factory 3.6 P4. okay. How about an OC'd 3.6 P4 at 4-4.1 ghz compared to an xps2? The EM660T can be OC'd too, not just the PM. Kinda like bragging a turbo civic can eat up my stock monte carlo. okay. Now let me drop in my twin turbo v8 fully tuned, now were at a starting point. Let's see who wins. lol
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