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post #21 of 65
so true man....w/o epp there was no way i could afford an ibm ..... but im soo glad that i have a relative who works for them...the discount is incredible...

my options were dell d610, or a Dell precision m20... the prices were much lower then the t43p but with the EPP....it was a no brainer

as for the delivery time

i ordered mine on 07/07/05

the email with my order and customer # had an estimated shipping date of the 21st of july (07/21/05)

i was amazed that my laptop was at my door on the 12th of july!!!

i called to make sure there wasnt a mixup, and they said that they really dont have an accurate idea of when the pakcage will be shipped...that some are shipped much earlier than the estimated date....and others are shipped on the estimated date....

so i guess keep yre fingers crossed that u be one of the luky ones too
post #22 of 65
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Originally Posted by redskin
The downside to this is that I chose to configure my own notebook to my specific need, it will take up to 5 weeks to deliver, and that sucks, but I guess when you want top notch quality, fantastic price, and cusmomization, that's the price you pay.
The deal you got looks really nice. I have EPP as well and I'd like something exactly how you have it. Did you have to call them up to get that deal or can you configure like that on their website?

Also, how do you get the port replicator for free? I didn't get that option online.
post #23 of 65
you have to call them up because that is how i did it. i call them up and they said by the way we are in a promotion that if you purchase around this time we are giving away free port replicator. i configured everything to the lowest, except hard drive, Graphic Card, DVD burner, and battery, because everything else i can get elsewhere for much cheaper, and i figured that if i configured those items that i listed above to the lowest, it would cost me more to buy it outside. so i might as well let those items be configured to the best value by ibm. as far as cpu goes. you can only choose 2.0 ghz, for full customization for 15" and 1.86 ghz for 14". if you want 2.13 ghz, then you are not able to do full customization. that you would have to select preconfigured system, which they have tons of models to choose from.

after it said and done, if i were to do full customization, i figured i saved me $250 on the CPU which i felt i don't need because from 2.0 ghz to 2.13 ghz you can hardly feel any difference, i dare if you if you can feel the difference. as far as memory goes. i can buy 1 gig outside for $100 and add onto the 256 Mb Ram that came with the laptop (together I would have 1.28 gig of RAM or you can take out the 256 Mb Ram sell it on ebay and pay $200 for 2 gig of RAM outside and you have a kick ass system), if you were to upgrade it through ibm they charge you $350 for 1 stick of 1 gig RAM. together right there saved me total of $600. the only thing that full customized system doesn't have as comparing to pre configured system is the fingerprint reader, which i think is not a big deal. the sale rep told me that most of their high end laptops usually don't come with fingerprint readers, and he said that ibm normally put fingerprint readers in low end laptops for extra security and not hight end laptops. i couldn't understand his logic but that's what he said.

so to sum it up

you can have pre configured system with 2.13 ghz cpu, 1 gig ram (1 DIMM slots occupied), and figerprint reader for $2287 or you can have full customized system with 2.0 ghz, 256 Mb ram (1 DIMM slot occupied), and without fingerprint reader for $1666, provided that everything else is equal except for cpu, memory and fingerprint reader. so take your pick.
post #24 of 65
ok so this is how the breakdown of the invoice goes:


QtyProduct CodeDescriptionUnit CostTotal
1 SYS.2687E4 CONFIGURED SYSTEM $1,667.65 $1,667.65
The above product code consists of the following component(s):


QtyComponentDescriptionCost
1 2687E4U EXP T43 P INTEL PENT 760 2.0 $1,011.75
Product DescriptionThinkPad T43p 2687 - Pentium M 760 2 GHz - 15" TFT
Dimensions (WxDxH)13 in x 10.6 in x 1.4 in
Weight5.7 lbs
LocalizationUnited States
System TypeNotebook
Built-in DevicesStereo speakers, wireless LAN antenna, ThinkLight, Bluetooth antenna
ProcessorIntel Pentium M 760 2 GHz
Cache Memory2 MB - L2 cache
RAM0 MB (installed) / 2 GB (max) - DDR II SDRAM - 533 MHz - PC2-4200
Display15" TFT active matrix UXGA (1600 x 1200)
Graphics ControllerATI MOBILITY FIRE GL V3200 - 128 MB
Audio OutputSound card
TelecomFax / modem - CDC - 56 Kbps
NetworkingNetwork adapter - Ethernet, Fast Ethernet, Gigabit Ethernet, Bluetooth
Input DeviceKeyboard, TrackPoint, UltraNav
PowerAC 110/230 V ( 50/60 Hz )
BatteryLithium ion
Manufacturer Warranty3 years warranty


QtyComponentDescriptionCost
1 09N4278 60GB 7200RPM HDD CTO $184.10
Product DescriptionHitachi TravelStar 7K60 - hard drive - 60 GB - ATA-100
TypeHard drive - internal
Form Factor2.5" x 1/8H
Dimensions (WxDxH)2.8 in x 3.9 in x 0.4 in
Weight0.2 lbs
Capacity60 GB
Interface TypeATA-100
Connector44 pin IDC
Data Transfer Rate100 MBps
Average Seek Time10 ms
Spindle Speed7200 rpm
Buffer Size8 MB


QtyComponentDescriptionCost
1 73P4304 IBM 11A/B/G WI FI WIRELESS $28.00


QtyComponentDescriptionCost
1 30R4957 9 CELL 2.4 AH BATTERY $139.30


QtyComponentDescriptionCost
1 73P2890 MICROSOFT WINDOWS XP HOME $70.00


QtyComponentDescriptionCost
1 73P3343 THINKPAD MULTIBURNER PLUS $192.50


QtyComponentDescriptionCost
1 73P3848 CTO 256 MB PC2-4200 CL4 NP $42.00

QtyProduct CodeDescriptionUnit CostTotal
108K8190Estimated Ship Date:
07/20/05 $83.30$83.30
Product DescriptionThinkPad Ultrabay Slim laptop battery - Li-pol - 1.5 Ah
Dimensions (WxDxH)5.1 in x 5.5 in x 0.4 in
Weight0.4 lbs
BatteryLaptop battery - lithium polymer - 10.8 V
Battery Form FactorPlug-in module
Capacity1.5 Ah
Run Time (Up To)2 hour(s)
Manufacturer Warranty1 year warranty




Ship Type: UPS Ground
Merchandise Total$1,750.95
Sales Tax$0.00
Shipping / Handling$0.00
Total$1,750.95
post #25 of 65
Quote:
Originally Posted by redskin
you have to call them up because that is how i did it. i call them up and they said by the way we are in a promotion that if you purchase around this time we are giving away free port replicator. i configured everything to the lowest, except hard drive, Graphic Card, DVD burner, and battery, because everything else i can get elsewhere for much cheaper, and i figured that if i configured those items that i listed above to the lowest, it would cost me more to buy it outside. so i might as well let those items be configured to the best value by ibm. as far as cpu goes. you can only choose 2.0 ghz, for full customization for 15" and 1.86 ghz for 14". if you want 2.13 ghz, then you are not able to do full customization. that you would have to select preconfigured system, which they have tons of models to choose from.

after it said and done, if i were to do full customization, i figured i saved me $250 on the CPU which i felt i don't need because from 2.0 ghz to 2.13 ghz you can hardly feel any difference, i dare if you if you can feel the difference. as far as memory goes. i can buy 1 gig outside for $100 and add onto the 256 Mb Ram that came with the laptop (together I would have 1.28 gig of RAM or you can take out the 256 Mb Ram sell it on ebay and pay $200 for 2 gig of RAM outside and you have a kick ass system), if you were to upgrade it through ibm they charge you $350 for 1 stick of 1 gig RAM. together right there saved me total of $600. the only thing that full customized system doesn't have as comparing to pre configured system is the fingerprint reader, which i think is not a big deal. the sale rep told me that most of their high end laptops usually don't come with fingerprint readers, and he said that ibm normally put fingerprint readers in low end laptops for extra security and not hight end laptops. i couldn't understand his logic but that's what he said.

so to sum it up

you can have pre configured system with 2.13 ghz cpu, 1 gig ram (1 DIMM slots occupied), and figerprint reader for $2287 or you can have full customized system with 2.0 ghz, 256 Mb ram (1 DIMM slot occupied), and without fingerprint reader for $1666, provided that everything else is equal except for cpu, memory and fingerprint reader. so take your pick.


Was this an EPP program? I called them up to order exactly what you listed in the other post and the pricing I got was alot higher. Plus they imeediately warned me it would take alot longer...like 6 weeks.

2687e4u T43p $1349
60GB 7200RPM HD $263
9 cell battery $199
etc, etc, etc...

my price with 3 yr warranty, additional 72w charger, and XP Pro came to $2533. Based upon the cost of the additional items I added I would have expected around $2k - $2.1k.

post #26 of 65
Quote:
Originally Posted by fventura
Was this an EPP program? I called them up to order exactly what you listed in the other post and the pricing I got was alot higher. Plus they imeediately warned me it would take alot longer...like 6 weeks.

2687e4u T43p $1349
60GB 7200RPM HD $263
9 cell battery $199
etc, etc, etc...

my price with 3 yr warranty, additional 72w charger, and XP Pro came to $2533. Based upon the cost of the additional items I added I would have expected around $2k - $2.1k.

Ah, sorry. Should have re-read you post. It was an EPP program....

Can anyone comment on the readability of text with 1600 x 1200. I tried it on my desktop with a 20" crt and my pokeroffice overlays where totally unreadable.
post #27 of 65
Thread Starter 
test is extremely nice on 1600x1200 you can even scale it down to 800x600 when your in the plane and want to set really back in the chair and relax and still see the screen. Personally i like this screen. if you are deciding whether to buy it or not: don't. this thing is hands down the best laptop where you dont need to worry about giving it a little abuse.
post #28 of 65
I have a uxga screen (1600x1200) on my dell 5150. I really like the added space, and it makes viewing large pictures better. I have increased the dpi to make the fonts/icons larger and easier to view. However, I do still find things hard to read every once in a while, and a lot of the time the extra space isn't needed. I fairly frequently click 'increase font' twice before reading articles online. This isn't so much of a problem for me, but I certainly wouldn't recommend a uxga for my mom.

So, while I think the uxga is fine, and I wouldn't have a problem having it on my next computer, I decided sxga is probably a better compromise for me (and is what I ordered). I won't miss the extra space all that much, and fonts will easier to read.
post #29 of 65
will someone hook me up w/EPP. i need to get a laptop for school, but my budget is low. Thanks.
post #30 of 65
Quote:
Originally Posted by gatszu
will someone hook me up w/EPP. i need to get a laptop for school, but my budget is low. Thanks.
Does this technique ever work for anyone. I've seen it here a few times...

If so, can someone hook me up also
post #31 of 65
Without EPP you can just forget about buying an IBM notebook because I think it's way overpriced with weaker graphic cards, and fewer bells and whistles (i.e no DVI port, fewer USB ports, no firewire port, no card reader, lesser speaker system, no wide screen) comparing to other notebooks out there on the market. IBM notebooks are designed for professonals rather than multimedia home users, and therefore lacking of those multimedia features. Whats makes up for IBM notebooks is built (built like a tank with high quality components, the chassy in particular) , design (simplistic and plain), and portability (thin and light). In those departments IBM can't be matched, and of course technical support that comes with it is what you are paying for, and it's well worth the price to justify for it.

As far as EPP goes, per employee allows to purchase 25 systems per year, and those are applicable for friends, family, etc... The discount normally is 30% to 40% off from website or retail price depends on the product, and that is incredible savings.

For my notebook configuration, I would have to pay $2800 retail price, but instead with EPP I only pay $1666 total.
post #32 of 65
I absolutely agree, my laptop wouldve cos me 3500 $ w/o epp. Now i really really love my laptop but in noo way is this thing worth dropping 3 + gs for. I agree with everyone who say that IBMs laptops are over priced, but i gurantee u that if they could get their hands on the EPP discount they would purchase one in a heart beat
post #33 of 65
Quote:
Originally Posted by redskin
Without EPP you can just forget about buying an IBM notebook because I think it's way overpriced with weaker graphic cards, and fewer bells and whistles (i.e no DVI port, fewer USB ports, no firewire port, no card reader, lesser speaker system, no wide screen) comparing to other notebooks out there on the market. IBM notebooks are designed for professonals rather than multimedia home users, and therefore lacking of those multimedia features. Whats makes up for IBM notebooks is built (built like a tank with high quality components, the chassy in particular) , design (simplistic and plain), and portability (thin and light). In those departments IBM can't be matched, and of course technical support that comes with it is what you are paying for, and it's well worth the price to justify for it.
I would add here the beautiful 1600x1200 NON-GLOSSY screen. An additional plus is that it is not a wide screen (i.e., not a short screen). This was the selling point for me.
post #34 of 65
Quote:
Originally Posted by basejumper
I absolutely agree, my laptop wouldve cos me 3500 $ w/o epp. Now i really really love my laptop but in noo way is this thing worth dropping 3 + gs for. I agree with everyone who say that IBMs laptops are over priced, but i gurantee u that if they could get their hands on the EPP discount they would purchase one in a heart beat
So you got it with EPP? God! That is evil price for me!
post #35 of 65
Nice review. These thinkpads are great.

You got one of the top of the line machines out there. Have fun.
post #36 of 65
How about some benchmarks and pics?
post #37 of 65
I dont see leveno offering the T42p anymore.
post #38 of 65

Customer Support

Quote:
Originally Posted by basejumper

On a final note i had a question........i know lenovo has been handling the personal computing dept of IBM for some while and that the recent sale just made it official.......it has been rumored that now since lenovo has taken over we will see a dramatic drop in the quality we expect from IBM...... both in product and in customer service.

how much of this is BS and how much is actually true

In July of 2004 I purchased a T42P Laptop with 1.8ghz Centrino, 512mb of RAM, 80gb 5400rpm HD, 15" UXGA Screen, and a 128 MB graphics card from PC COnnection for $3099. Luckily I purchased this machine with a three year warranty. I purchased this machine for reliability and performance. I wanted a desktop replacement that was still highly portable. This was to be my major machine for school and work. Unfortunately, it has been a huge hassle.

6 months into ownership, the hard drive failed. They sent me a replacement hard drive, but only after I spent several days on the phone with technical support. 3 months later, the CPU fan failed. This caused the CPU to fail. After 5 days, they replaced both and I had my machine back. 2 months later, my hard drive failed AGAIN. When I called technical support, they told me it was a software problem and that I needed to update my BIOS. I told them I knew it was a hard drive problem and that would not solve the problem. The technical representative rudely told me they wouldn't talk to me until I had updated all of the software on my machine.

The hard drive was so damaged, that it comletely prevented all of the software updates from integrating in to the machine successfuly. This screwed up my mouse, LCD screen, and Windows functionality. At this point I was furious and demanded that I speak with a manager. They forwarded me to Lenovo's Escalation department. I spoke with a gentleman who took my machine to engineers who had built the machine. After several days, they determined that the hard drive had in fact failed and offered to replace it. Before I let them replace it, I asked him to discuss with the engineers what was causing this machine to have so many problems. The engineer had no possible explanation for the problems the machine had. Lenovo opted to replace the machine like for like, but said that it would be two weeks before the machine arrived. To their credit, it did arrive 1 week later.

Three days ago, the replacement machine began shutting off for no reason. The computer freezes, and the screen goes blank. Sometimes it restarts, other times it just sits there. But everytime my files and data are lost. I immediately called Lenovo support, who told me to run a 45 minute diagnostic test. 40 minutes into the test, the computer once again died. As if my experiences with Lenovo were not bad enough, when I called them back they told me they were unable to help me at that time. They were have technical issues in their facility, and asked me to call back. I have never before been told by any customer service representative, that they cannot help me and I should call back. At the very least, they should have taken down my number and called me back when they resolved their issues.

I wholeheartedly regret purchasing this machine. I have asked Lenovo to purchase the machine from me, but they are only willing to repair it at this time. Their customer service generally sucks, and their machines do not appear to be reliable. I rarely move the machine, because I don't trust it. It has a very easy life. But at this time, I would not recommend a Lenovo. Think long and hard about purchasing a Lenovo Thinkpad. No matter what they tell you they are not the same. I have a very old IBM desktop that was built like a steel vault. This machine is nothing like it. Save your money and purchase any other machine with a warranty. You'll be $1000 richer.
post #39 of 65
Thread Starter 
My experience with lenovo is nill. So i cant comment. But i have been with ibm for a very very very long time and my t43p is still serviced by ibm. In fact the tech number i use is straight from ibm. I sincerely hope lenovo turns out to be good because if not im screwed. No matter what laptop i buy eventually i still come back to the thinkpad. My current thinkpad was purchased last year and the thingy is working perfectly, couldnt be more happy with the machine. And would do it again in a heartbeat. In fact when collegues and friends see this thing they all want one. Believe me it looks alot better than the pics and the quality is vintage ibm.
post #40 of 65
What in your opinion is the best laptop now? I must update my Thinkpad T42 and would like to have the best of the crop, unfortunately I have some doubts on the new T60, but I got used to the IBM overall quality: design, manufacturing and perfomance... what to buy now? Apple, Fujitsu, Asus, Toshiba, Hp-Compaq, Sony, Acer? Really I can't find anything better than my Thinkpad... but this machine is getting outdated every day... NEED HELP !!!

Hey! whoever did, thanks for my first green dot... I am amazed with so few posts...
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