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post #41 of 78
7/12/05 at 10:28pm
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Originally Posted by h17m4n
The one being offered at BB? This http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....=1117177722001 ?

Show us the benchmark which proves so.
I don't have the benchmark. I haven't seen a benchmark for the 680/8510 specifically from Best Buy. The only benchmarks I have seen were for the 680 and I believe they all had the 128 x700, not the 64mb x700 which is in the 8510/680 at BB. I would like to see a benchmark from the 8510 from Best Buy though to compare it to the 3dmark05 scores from the 7510.
The guy at Best Buy said the 7510 would be the better gaming rig, but I would like to see some benchies on both rigs before I purchase either one. Heck, they may not be that much better than my 6809 I use now, which happens to play HL2, Far Cry and the like quite well. I am actually DLing 3dmark05 (on dial up no less) right now. It will take me a LONG time to get 283mb downloaded though. After I do get it downloaded I am going to burn a copy of 3dmark05 and take it to BB and bench both the 8510 (680) and the 7510 and see which one wins. I bet they will be fairly close, but I am just guessing. Problem is, the nearest BB is two hours away from me. Guess I'll have to make a special trip this weekend.
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post #42 of 78
7/12/05 at 11:40pm
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Originally Posted by h17m4n
they have the specs up and thats about it... I've seen that before... but there's no way to buy it from there...

when I bought my 7405, my dad was at bb with me and he wanted a laptop... so I told him to get a centrino... but after this, I won't be recommending any intel machines anymore... and I'll make sure that family purchases are not made on Intel's side... let's start a boycot
That's because they are retail models....they are only available in a retail store.
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post #43 of 78
7/13/05 at 12:27am
YES I know that. I don't know if it was in this thread but I did say somewhere that they DONT SELL AMD PCs online. They only sell pre-configured machines.

And before someone comes up saying "Yes they do, ABSPC, Alienware and whatever sells them", let me say that by THEY I mean Gateway. Jeez
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post #44 of 78
7/13/05 at 1:54am
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Originally Posted by h17m4n
YES I know that. I don't know if it was in this thread but I did say somewhere that they DONT SELL AMD PCs online. They only sell pre-configured machines.

And before someone comes up saying "Yes they do, ABSPC, Alienware and whatever sells them", let me say that by THEY I mean Gateway. Jeez
Geez man calm down........have a beer.

I was just pointing out that they do have them on the site, so if someone is looking for an AMD notebook you can find it on Gateway's website. You just can't buy it there.

Oh and Alienware doesn't sell AMD notebooks.
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post #45 of 78
7/13/05 at 10:42am
Yeah sorry man. I was heated because of some serious things going on with my family. But I'm better now.

And yeah you could find them on their website, only when clicking on "View Products at Retail Stores". It still isn't as good as having a page where you can configure the PC, and I think that only people who actually own a store bought Gateway will visit that area.

Btw I got 3DMark 2k5. I will run it and post results whenever I can.(7405GX stock hardware, Omega Drivers)
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post #46 of 78
7/13/05 at 11:11am
Done. Instead of just telling you guys the score, I ran it and uploaded the result to FM. Here's the link: http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1020910

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Here's a project with a A64 2.4GHz(same clock) 1 gig, x600 128 VRAM:
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1014116

And here's one comparable to the 8510GZ(BB's M680) with same cpu, ram and vram:
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1018100
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post #47 of 78
7/13/05 at 11:17pm
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Originally Posted by h17m4n
Done. Instead of just telling you guys the score, I ran it and uploaded the result to FM. Here's the link: http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1020910

--edit--

Here's a project with a A64 2.4GHz(same clock) 1 gig, x600 128 VRAM:
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1014116

And here's one comparable to the 8510GZ(BB's M680) with same cpu, ram and vram:
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1018100

Thanks for running the benchmark. I don't have my high-speed running yet (still on dial-up) and I don't want to spend 30 hours DLing 3dmark05. I would like to see how my 6809 would score though on 3dmark05. I am guessing it will have a hard time breaking 1000 stock, but probably will with an OC'd card. Either way, it seems the 7510 or 8510 from BB are at least a third or maybe even twice as fast as my current rig for gaming, at least according to the 3dmark05 scores. Interesting.
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post #48 of 78
7/13/05 at 11:33pm
Well, yours should get about the same as mine with the omega drivers. The config is the same, so all parts should be pretty identical(if not from the same batch).
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post #49 of 78
7/14/05 at 3:02pm
7510Gx is it 128 MB dedicated video ? why on windows home edition sp2 on sistem information says 256 ? I am worried about it
please explain
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post #50 of 78
7/14/05 at 5:17pm
It has hypermemory, which means it can use up to 128MB of system RAM. So 128MB dedicated + 128MB System = 256MB total VRAM.
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post #51 of 78
7/14/05 at 11:17pm
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Originally Posted by h17m4n
Done. Instead of just telling you guys the score, I ran it and uploaded the result to FM. Here's the link: http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1020910

--edit--

Here's a project with a A64 2.4GHz(same clock) 1 gig, x600 128 VRAM:
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1014116

And here's one comparable to the 8510GZ(BB's M680) with same cpu, ram and vram:
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1018100

How did your stock 7405GX beat my overclocked 7422GX?

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=705063

EDIT: Damn the X600 smoked me! I should've waited 6 months.
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post #52 of 78
7/14/05 at 11:36pm
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Originally Posted by RyanFL
How did your stock 7405GX beat my overclocked 7422GX?

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=705063

EDIT: Damn the X600 smoked me! I should've waited 6 months.
That's wierd that the 7405GX beat you. I benched my 7422GX at the same clocks you did, but I haven't run 3Dmark '05. Did you run 2001se or '03? I'm just curious if we get the same.

Here's mine.
3DMark 2001se
3DMark '03
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post #53 of 78
7/14/05 at 11:55pm
Try closing every app possible(from task manager) before running it. Your CPU got a lower score, so maybe your chipset driver might be outdated or you're missing the CPU driver.

Please note I ran it on Omegas(2.6.25a, as 2.6.42 was not stable on my PC).
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post #54 of 78
7/15/05 at 1:04am
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Originally Posted by RyanFL
How did your stock 7405GX beat my overclocked 7422GX?

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=705063

EDIT: Damn the X600 smoked me! I should've waited 6 months.
o_O thats a good question... I got like 800-something stock when I marked my 7422

dont remember if that was before i got my bad video card replaced tho

too weak (been sick all day) to do it right now I'll check it out later

what ever happened to the video Ryan?
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post #55 of 78
7/15/05 at 1:15am
I've been tweaking my system here and there. By increasing the memory speed to 200, I get 40 extra marks(using A64 Tweaker). Now I'm trying to OC the CPU but I don't know what tool to use or if there's any windows based program that lets me overclock without restarting. How do you guys OC these machines?
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post #56 of 78
7/15/05 at 11:45am
Clockgen works well
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post #57 of 78
7/15/05 at 12:00pm
Stock HW, Omega drivers:

3Dmark 2k3: http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=4115712

3Dmark2k1se: http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8649521

and repost 3Dmark 2k5: http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1020910
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post #58 of 78
7/15/05 at 12:10pm
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Originally Posted by h17m4n
That looks about right. You scored a little higher than I did stock but I was using the stock drivers. You should try overclocking the graphics card and see what you get. 400/225 seems to be good for these machines.
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post #59 of 78
7/15/05 at 1:38pm
More benchies. Athlon 64 3200+@2.2GHz, Ram was pushed to 183MHz due to HTT increase, VPU@401MHz and VRAM@225Mhz(Omegas):

Tools: RadLinker, ATITool and ClockGen(thanks to thunder, and I found CG-ICS950405 to be the right one)

3DMark01se: http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8649634
3DMark05: http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1028111

Sry, didn't run 03.
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post #60 of 78
7/15/05 at 8:07pm
Hey thanks for the answer for the 128 dedicated video on 7510GX , is there any way to control that? just to get 128 dedicated and not use the shared ?

Does it affect on the cpu if I am using the shared part ? I do not want to sacrifice my cpu while I am using the video LOL

what works better ? to have just 128 dedicated without the shared part ? or to have the dedicated + plus the share part

thanks
ray
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