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post #21 of 65
6/20/05 at 11:29pm

Ferrari's screen

Hi,

thanks again for the great review. One question though to you all:

Why do you say it's actually better that the Ferrari 4000 does not have the glossy screen (the Acer's BrightLite)? I thought it gives better performace when working outside in the sunlight for instance? i'd appreciate if you could comment on that. I actually cancelled my order when it turned out that the 4005WLMi does not have the glossy screen. I was thinking of waiting for the version with BrightLite, which should be available anytime soon.


techn9ne wrote:
"The screen looks great. 1680 x 1050 is perfect resolution for me. Not too small at all and gives enough space and detail. Great for image editing. It's nice and bright and I'm glad that it is not the glossy type. Obviously none of this sparkle crap like the Asus / Dell 's. 9/10"
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post #22 of 65
6/21/05 at 1:51am
Thread Starter 
well I looked at the Dell...

here in Canada I cannot get any $750 off coupons or similar.
the CPU is slower. This might not matter much for games but I will be using this laptop for processor intensive stuff.
That harddrive is also too small for my needs and will be slower due to lower density.
No DVD-RAM if you want that.
One NICE Graphics card though.
I guess it comes down to preference but the Dell 9300 is UGLY!
And too big to be as portable because of the increased weight (almost 2 pounds heavier), and it's 17" screen makes it a tad unwieldly.

So... if you want something that is faster in both CPU and harddrive, not really ugly, a lot more portable, and not quite so good for gaming then get the Ferrari 4000. The Dell is not a bad machine but you can't really compare the two. They are completely different. The dell is a little more like a desktop replacement and the Ferrari is a more portable machine that still has great performance. Plus I don't like Dell all that much due to past bad experiences.

And... 3DMark is not the be all, end all benchmark. All it measures is the Graphic Card performance. If that's all you are going for there are better machines than the 9300... like a Sager for instance.
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post #23 of 65
6/21/05 at 4:19am
Ferrari 4000 all the way if you want any kind of portabillity and performance + future 64 bit! I own a 17 Wide Screen notebook myself so I know a 17" is a "desktop only" notebook. And I think my Sager 4750 is pretty thin and light at that! But I still think of it as a DTR. Next notebook I'm getting will be smaller for sure!
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post #24 of 65
6/21/05 at 4:41am
Thread Starter 
as for the glossy screen thing...

i've never really liked glossy looking screens. they are too... i dunno... reflective for me. I know they have a brighter, clearer picture but meh... i've always used matte screens so I guess I'm just used to them.
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post #25 of 65
6/21/05 at 5:21am
techn9ne, I would like to know the complete specs on your machine, CPU, HD, X700 core speeds/RAM speeds, RAM amount and number or RAM modules, etc.

If you could also download and run SiSoft Sandra memtest, Super-Pi to 1 million digits and post the results, I'd really appreciate it:

http://downloads.vr-zone.com/pafiled...ion=file&id=22

Hopefully this will be something you'll be willing to do, as it is very difficult to get first-hand knowledge of Turion performance with DDR400 speeds (or even at DDR333 speeds, in your case).

BTW, are you planning to upgrade your RAM to DDR400?
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post #26 of 65
6/21/05 at 6:01am
I think Ferarri 4000 shows a bit better performance compare to Dell i9300, since the nV GF 6800Go will boost your battery's durability.
Not only the hardware, but in my opinion Ferrari 4000 has very good design as well...kevlar carbon,right??
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post #27 of 65
6/21/05 at 6:27am
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As for the CPU I'm just going by the benchmarks that I've done compared to ones that I have seen for the Pentium-M. A 2GHz pentium-M seems to slightly outperform the Turion during gaming and certain benchmarks. The Turion performed better during some intensive application tests. As for real world performance, I am guessing that the difference isn't noticeable.
That was my point. Thanks for the review, but, please, do not mix your impressions and info from third parties.
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post #28 of 65
6/21/05 at 6:30am
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Originally Posted by Rockinfella2k
I must say those are veryyyyyy nice lookng laptops, I just wish priced matched performance!

Which version of 3dmark is used on the screenshot?
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post #29 of 65
6/21/05 at 7:11am
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Originally Posted by techn9ne
DVD drive is pretty cool since it is a slot load. It supports everything, even DVD-RAM which is pretty dead now.

Not if you've got a Panasonic DVD recorder

Thanks for the review. All I have to do now is to wait for them to arrive in England
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post #30 of 65
6/21/05 at 10:51am

More heat & noise questions ;-)

Thanks for the review techn9ne.

I have questions about heat and noise, since that is a deal breaker for me, and why I returned the TM8104.

The TM8104 have 2 fans. 1 is running all the time but is pretty quite, the other also runs almost all the time and is not quite. This is of course a matter of opinion. To me it is not quite. It can easily be heard in a listen room.

So, are there 2 fans in the F4000? Are they always running? How loud are they?

Also, undervolting the processor, how big an impacted did it have on heat & noise?
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post #31 of 65
6/21/05 at 1:19pm
I'm confused, How can you upgrade the RAM to DDR400?

Does the Ferrari come with slower RAM or something but is capable of running DDR400?
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post #32 of 65
6/21/05 at 2:02pm
Thread Starter 
The chipset and processor both support DDR400...

I think there are two fans... undervolting did seem to reduce the noise by maybe 25%... regular usage heat is from 38-42 degrees, full processor is about 58-64 degrees. Normally it was around 50 maybe before undervolting.

I'll get to the memtest stuff when I get home later...
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post #33 of 65
6/22/05 at 4:09am
Quote:
Originally Posted by techn9ne
The chipset and processor both support DDR400...

I think there are two fans... undervolting did seem to reduce the noise by maybe 25%... regular usage heat is from 38-42 degrees, full processor is about 58-64 degrees. Normally it was around 50 maybe before undervolting.

I'll get to the memtest stuff when I get home later...
Thx, tech!
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post #34 of 65
6/22/05 at 6:24am
What software do you use to undervolt the Ferrari 4000 ??
I would like to hear your Super-PI calculation.
Does the BT mouse have an ON/OFF switch? and How do you Charge it?

Could you compare the noice with other specific laptops??(Like the Sager 4880, Compal CL-56 or other known machines)?

The Windows XP Pro included, is that the 64bit edition??? Im thinking it would enhance the performance quite a bit?? Or do the 64bit drivers not exist yet??
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post #35 of 65
6/22/05 at 7:06am

x64

Hi,

as far as I know the US version available right now only has the XP Pro32bit. However from the 1st of July it will be possible to upgrade to XP Pro x64 edition thanks to the 'Acer Technology Advancement Program', you will find more info at:
http://global.acer.com/support/windo...sional-x64.htm. It will cost around $40 to upgrade, which is pretty good I guess.
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post #36 of 65
6/22/05 at 10:48am
Here in Denmark it seems there is a nearly 200$ price difference on the Ferrari 4005 With XP home and the 4005 with Xp Pro...
For 200$ i could purchase the XP pro 64bit OEM(With a keyboard or something like it)...
This means that i could potentially buy it with the XP Home(32bit) edition, run it for a few month(perhaps experiment with a "borrowed" XP Pro 64bit) and then Buy the XP pro 64bit edition when all the drivers are out. That way i would get both a XP Home and an XP Pro 64bit for the same price as the Acer Ferrari 4005 XP Pro(32bit)...
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post #37 of 65
6/22/05 at 1:28pm
Thread Starter 
yes it comes with the 32bit edition only. I havent heard about that upgrade plan. The 64 bit edition will not really impact performance much since there are not really any useful 64-bit applications yet and most games don't have seperate 64-bit binaries. Also keep in mind that older 16-bit applications will not be usable. I will only really be utilizing the 64-bit processor for Linux. As soon as I can get the damn ATI card working with it that is.

I can't compare it to those notebooks as I have never used them, only read about them. Compared to the Toshiba M40 I used the Ferrari is a little quieter.

The bluetooth mouse seems to go into standby whenever its not being used. It does not have an off button. It charges with a USB cable. MiNE hasn't needed charing yet.

As for undervolting... this guide will work well and it's pretty simple...
http://www.notebookforums.com/762194
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post #38 of 65
6/22/05 at 4:36pm
Well, 64bit Linux would be really interesting since the software I use for school(Electrical Engineering student), like, Matlab is out for Linux on 64bit. As for gaming Both UT 2004 and Farcry is out in 64bit editions..

I didnt know the Centrino undervolting would work the same way for a Turion... thats quite nice Im allready doing it on my P-M

The whole BT mouse standby thing is quite odd imo... If i have the mouse in my bag and perhaps shake it a bit, the wouldnt the mouse think i was trying to use it? Seems like it when i take my Logitech MX900 mouse with me to school...

Thanks for the review btw
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post #39 of 65
6/22/05 at 5:03pm
Prop to Techn9ne for answering everybody's questions
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post #40 of 65
6/22/05 at 5:04pm

External Display

Is it really true that this monster laptop only has VGA-port for external display. No DVI???

That sound really strange!?
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