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Yes, I was trying to be sarcastic. Unfortunately, it did not work. I'm going back to my corner.

I figured you were... I just wasn't sure. Don't go back to ytour corner... unless there is a hotdog stand over there. In that case, can I go over there too?

Get over the whole graphics card thing, seriously. WHO CARES ABOUT GAMING, especially on a mac?!?! (That's another thing I love about macs- the users seem to be so much more mature.) I highly doubt the majority of buyers want or even need a hardcore graphics card. And as for the 9700, my Gateway has a 9600 in it, pretty much top of the line when it came out. Still does its job superbly, and I have no problems playing games on it, including HL2. Not that I have played a pc game in months anyway, pretty much since HL2 came out.

1. Nothing wrong with it - Apple hardware is generally very well built and solid. Are you seriously arguing that this is a bad thing.

2. Totally agree. Having a year old card in the top of a line laptop is totally out of place for the price charged. To be fair I don't mind paying extra for a well built computer and a very nice OS, but currently I can't bring myself to buy a G4 (which is definately out of date these days) and a MR 9700 when I could have an XPS2, or an i9300 for the same price. In terms of pure hardware the difference is staggering.

3. Agree again. The wintel world does do a few things right (that being two button mice, and having contextual menus on top of windows rather than at the very top.

Well, I'm going to be a freshmen in college this fall, and I have never even considered a Mac before joining this forum. But after checking out the Apple Store, playing around with Tiger, and seeing the Powerbooks in person, the idea of buying a Mac seems extremely appealing.

I, personally, think that Apple hardware has impeccable build quality and everything I have heard from my friends who actually own Macs have been nothing short of solid. Not to mention, the Powerbooks are probably the most aesthetically pleasing and stylish laptops that I have ever seen.

An ATI 9700 does seem quite out of place especially considering the price, but most people who purchase Powerbooks do not buy it for extreme, hardcore gaming. I am probably going to buy the 15" PB, and leave the gaming for my SLI powered desktop. And being a freshmen in college, I'm most likely going to be busy working, and going out with my friends rather than staying in and playing video games.

I have never had enough experience with Macs and thus, do not know much about the one-button mouse. I guess that is why I am most apprehensive about buying a PB, I will have to learn how to effectively use a new OS and I have no idea about software counterparts between Windows and Macs.

P.S. My corner does not have a hot dog stand, BUT Kakaze's corner does.....bwahahaha...let's pillage it...

The one button mouse complain is just plain stupid, considering that any windows 2 button, scroll mouse works just fine w/ a mac. So everyone that complains about the one mouse button thing, just buy another mouse or use one you already have.

And I have just called in backup for a massive assault on the hot dog stand corner.

NICE as you can't even spell RIDICULOUS haha

Deuce! I must retreat to my corner now and cry. Way to make me feel bad about myself, thanks.

hmmm....apple switching to intel has now started a conversation about hotdogs. Interesting. But with the real topic of the post, I can't wait till it happenes.

That would make Apple just another PC maker. The proprietary features make Apple's computers something more than the standard ATX case. If you prefer conventional design with linux, buy that. As for the mouse, that I can't understand. Apple has the best mouse design out there, but so many of them never get thrown in the desk drawer because people prefer a multi-button mouse.

sure, you do have that option, but you can't install a 2nd mouse button in a touchpad when you're on the go and can't use a mouse.

also "best mouse design" lol..you're kidding right? every time i use that thing at school my wrist hurts and it is so uncomfortable...and did i tell you it LAGS like no other? My IOGear mouse is way more comfortable and does not give me a cramp in the wrist. or even better, a trackball (which i know some old mac laptops had a trackball..that was interesting)

there not that big of a problem with a one button mouse. So you have to press control then the mouse button? SO WHAT, if your really bent on not having another mouse button buy a nice logitech mouse. If your on the road, your on your own with that. But when Mac does switch to intel it will not just be another PC. You will just now have the choice to use either windows or OSX. And quite frankly I think this is a brilliant idea. Apple will have way more sales because all of those people who want a mac but are to afraid to switch to a new operating system will now be able to "try" OSX and if they do not like it then the just install windows on it. This makes me want to buy a powerbook even more now. And I think that most of those scared people who are afriad to switch over, will most likely stay with OSX there is bound to be some people who like it.

The old apple mice that came with the old iMacs (G3's and the likes) are a bit like all the optical mice at the time. Crap.

The new ones are alot nicer, and more responsive. I would personally spend my money on some kind of nice logitech mouse...

The lack of two buttons (On the touchpad) is irritating. I mean it wouldn't stop me buying one, but I'd like one. I don't want to have to start doing keyboard commands to open a new tab in Firefox. Its just irritating.

strangely... ever since i started using apple's pro mouse... i doubt i will ever use any other mice again... the one mouse button is just so comfortable... unlike standard to mouse buttons that requires different fingers for different buttons... u juz like a little of ur weight on your mouse and there goes a click...

i used to have aching wrists and such when using older mice in e past... even my fingers will feel tired after some time... no such thing ever since i started using the apple mouse... and i have tried using even the best mice out there like the logitech ones... sure it may have more buttons... somehow i still love the feel of an apple mouse...

guess what? i'm a pc user...

i think the apple mice have a very cool design. And the wireless one is so sleek, I love the feel of using it.

I might get a powerbook in the future when they finally integrate a 2 button touchpad and make the intel switch, and get up to date with the video card. By the x86 switch, it will open up more doors in the linux world, altough there are PLENTY of ppc linux distros, there are just THAT MUCH MORE of x86. Well...of course, I'll have to dump the stock aircard for an atheros chipset (as far as i am aware apple uses broadcom wireless chips)

we talking mouse or touch pad? on a notebook it's negligible where u either tap the right button and tap the pad or left button, where on my iBook i just hold the apple/command and tap the link for a new tab, one-handed. that's the nice thing about the command key being on either side of the spacebar. on a desktop Mac, don't u just hold the button down to get the right click options? (it's been a while since i've been on a regular mac mouse)

no you have to hold the control button then a mose click. All it is, is Ctrl + Mouse

right...so you can't just use purely your mouse for the most basic tasks, like even browsing this forum. right now i have 2 tabs open, but because this is the last thread i have opened that i wish to reply to, but i usually have up to 8 tabs open. so...i can't just browse using the mouse alone (granted i need the keyboard to write my reply). That is what annoys me, i am trying to browse the web in peace and suddenly i need to right click, so i have to reach for the keyboard, i can't just remian in my recliened possition far away from the keyboard using just the mouse....crap!

Considering the fact that mouse gestures requires either a two-button mouse or a hand on the keyboard, the entire advantage of the idea is negated by the use of a single-button mouse.

I will honestly state that I find two buttons and a scroll wheel to be the bare minimum of acceptable mouse functionality.

I don't really hold it against Apple, because they do support third-party mice, but I don't see why they make single-button mice in the first place. Two-button mice have been around for over a decade by this point, and they were popular almost from the start. :-/

try using a single button mouse... i think it is more comfortable as you no longer need to assign different fingers to different buttons n such... u juz place the weight of ur hand on the mouse...